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Every action EternalMisfit took so far can only be explained in a mafia perpective: 1) Making an useless fos chart to post a picture of it in the thread and NOT saving it. 2) Posting analysis on me right after I posted my analysis on Amber[Light] to discredit me. 3) Calling for a vig shot onto himself when the mafia roleblocker was in danger. 4) Providing extensive analysis the easiest targets ever (sinani206 and kurumi) to appear pro-town.
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Happy birthday by the way. Still, I hope you die today =)
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On May 11 2011 22:33 chaos13 wrote:Forumite, I haven't trusted you for a while in this game. Your analysis has seemed a bit strange from the start. Doesn't mean that you're scum, as I haven't noticed a good scum read from you yet, but you're definitely iffy with me. I am going to have to vote for Sinani206. The final thing that decided it for me was this: Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 14:39 sinani206 wrote: OK, I'm catching up, just skimmed the thread and planning to read more in-depth later. I will not comment on anything until I'm fully awake though.
He posted it six hours ago, and hasn't come through with an in-depth post. This is exactly what Irish did, and he flipped red.
Do the people on the internet ever sleep? I'm on Pacific time and I just woke up. I am actually in the process of writing my post now. Be more patient.
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On May 11 2011 22:33 chaos13 wrote: Forumite, I haven't trusted you for a while in this game. Your analysis has seemed a bit strange from the start. Doesn't mean that you're scum, as I haven't noticed a good scum read from you yet, but you're definitely iffy with me. Yeah, I remember your last FoS on me, it wasn´t very strong so i guess most of it was undefineable suspicions. I´m a bit erratic, and sometimes tunnel, so i guess that´s part of it.
On May 11 2011 22:37 sandroba wrote: Easy there forumite. There's a chance orgolove is scum indeed, but he was one of the first to vote for Amber on his lynch. This gets him +towine points in my eyes. There are much more obvious scum waiting to be lynched. We can save the discussion on orgolove for tomorrow. I just wanted him considered. He´s been commented as scummy by a few, posted an analysis that didn´t help, and now dropped out. I want to make sure we don´t forget about him, even though I don´t have any high hopes on lynching him today.
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@sinina206 I eagerly await your post. So far you have been a great asset to the town.
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On May 11 2011 14:39 sinani206 wrote: OK, I'm catching up, just skimmed the thread and planning to read more in-depth later. I will not comment on anything until I'm fully awake though.
On May 11 2011 23:05 sinani206 wrote: Do the people on the internet ever sleep? I'm on Pacific time and I just woke up. I am actually in the process of writing my post now. Be more patient.
I would like an explanation on your sleep schedule aswel. 14:40 you just woke up, you will read the thread and comment. Where is the comment? 23:05 you just woke up again????
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On May 11 2011 23:21 sandroba wrote:I would like an explanation on your sleep schedule aswel. 14:40 you just woke up, you will read the thread and comment. Where is the comment? 23:05 you just woke up again???? I lol´d
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kitaman27
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On May 11 2011 20:51 sandroba wrote: Maybe not, but when the voting was this close(7-6 on jaminz, and 2-2 on chaos13) and with many players yet to vote, I have a hard time believing mafia would take a risk. Most likely not.
That's why I'm saying he is the godfather. I've hardly ever seen an entire scum team on the same person on day two. Usually at least one, generally the godfather, switches to the opposite side for late game, even if it hurts the team. Take Deconduo, two games ago, for instance, he was on annul, LunarDestiny, and chaoser and nearly won when it got to 3 people left since nearly no one suspected he could be scum.
On May 11 2011 21:48 sandroba wrote: Sorry for the quadruple post but I need further explanation on this. @Kitaman27 So you are saying ilovejonn is scum. I'm sure you realize that if we catch mafia today, mafia are reduce to 1 kp. Explain to me how it is possible for EM to be scum in the scenario where ilovejonn is scum. Also your analysis on jaminz is complete bullshit. It's a common tactic for mafia to introduce more candidates for a lynch, to confuse town. Right now my prime godfather suspect is you.
So I'm not allowed to write analysis on someone I think is suspicious? When would you rather have me post it, in the final 24 hours of the day when its even closer to lynch or during the night where I can get whacked and leave the town with a WIFOM arrangement? That's silly.
As for ilovejonn and EM, I'm just more confidant that jonn is scum. If he does pop red, it probably would be less likely that EM is also scum due to his analysis on him during the night cycle, but its not out of the question.
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The scum team knew irish was getting mod killed. Voting for Amber[Light] on that close of a situation, and thus risking losing kp does not make sense. Ok, so you think jonn is scum. I agree that if jonn flips scum, EM is less likely to be scum. But why do think EM is town? How is jonn more supicious then EM?
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I'm a little worried that this could sidetrack things but here goes. At this point in time I feel it almost impossible for ilovejonn and EM to be both mafia. With so few mafia remaining, if they were both scum ilovejonn would not tunnel EM so hard.
This might seem like a strange idea, but we may still have a day vig left. 5 blues have died and Kenpachi has claimed, unopposed, that he was the night vig who shot GGQ. That makes 3 night vigs, 2 day vigs and a dt in aidnai.
Chaoser died night 2 despite being a) a veteran, b) the most obvious medic target of all time and c) the mafia having only 2 kp with which to kill him. There probably aren't any medics.
I'm willing to bet there are either 1 or 2 blues left. The possibilities are day vig, night vig, dt, veteran.
I am putting a call out. If by any chance there is a day vigilante left, I strongly urge you to shoot one of EM and ilovejonn today and soon. I nominate ilovejonn and then the lynch can be between sinani206 and EM. How does this sound to people?
If there aren't any day vigs alive still, well we keep going as is
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On May 12 2011 00:35 DropBear wrote:I'm a little worried that this could sidetrack things but here goes. At this point in time I feel it almost impossible for ilovejonn and EM to be both mafia. With so few mafia remaining, if they were both scum ilovejonn would not tunnel EM so hard. This might seem like a strange idea, but we may still have a day vig left. 5 blues have died and Kenpachi has claimed, unopposed, that he was the night vig who shot GGQ. That makes 3 night vigs, 2 day vigs and a dt in aidnai. Chaoser died night 2 despite being a) a veteran, b) the most obvious medic target of all time and c) the mafia having only 2 kp with which to kill him. There probably aren't any medics. I'm willing to bet there are either 1 or 2 blues left. The possibilities are day vig, night vig, dt, veteran. I am putting a call out. If by any chance there is a day vigilante left, I strongly urge you to shoot one of EM and ilovejonn today and soon. I nominate ilovejonn and then the lynch can be between sinani206 and EM. How does this sound to people? If there aren't any day vigs alive still, well we keep going as is ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) Actually, it might make even more sense to do it the other way around. Shooting EM would confirm ilovejonn either way and we get a mafia today regardless.
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@DropBear There is VERY LITTLE chance that both jonn and EM are mafia. Also there's VERY LITTLE chance town has more vigs. Also there even a SMALLER chance that we have a day vig left. I missed the purpose of your post completely.
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On May 12 2011 00:45 sandroba wrote: @DropBear There is VERY LITTLE chance that both jonn and EM are mafia. Also there's VERY LITTLE chance town has more vigs. Also there even a SMALLER chance that we have a day vig left. I missed the purpose of your post completely. It was just putting it out there. There may only be a small chance but while there's still a possibility it should be discussed imo.
The lynch targets still stay the same. Should any day vigs remain it would be a way of clearing things up slightly faster and ensuring the mafia KP gets reduced for the night.
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@Everyone We are NOT playing catch the godfather here. We are playing catch scum. Right now we have the opportunity to reduce mafia kp to 1. Crazy theories about who is godfather will take us nowhere today. You should vote for whoever you feel is the most obvious scum right now. For me it's EM. Mafia was scared shitless of keeping chaoser alive so he could confirm those players he was suspicous of. Lynching either EM or sinani206 will tell us a lot.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 12 2011 00:33 sandroba wrote: The scum team knew irish was getting mod killed. Voting for Amber[Light] on that close of a situation, and thus risking losing kp does not make sense. Ok, so you think jonn is scum. I agree that if jonn flips scum, EM is less likely to be scum. But why do think EM is town? How is jonn more supicious then EM?
jonn is more suspicious because he is trying to buy town cred where he hasn't earned any. He quotes chaoser's analysis to try to confirm himself and then references his alignment in past games as if they had any impact on the current game. I can't be certain EM is town, but I've got a better feeling jonn is scum. If the vote were between EM and sinani206, I would want to hear what sinani has to say with his 7 hour delayed post before I make a decision.
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On May 11 2011 23:21 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 14:39 sinani206 wrote: OK, I'm catching up, just skimmed the thread and planning to read more in-depth later. I will not comment on anything until I'm fully awake though.
Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 23:05 sinani206 wrote: Do the people on the internet ever sleep? I'm on Pacific time and I just woke up. I am actually in the process of writing my post now. Be more patient. I would like an explanation on your sleep schedule aswel. 14:40 you just woke up, you will read the thread and comment. Where is the comment? 23:05 you just woke up again???? This is a misunderstanding. At 14:40 I was about to go to sleep. I woke up at 23:05 and had to got to school. I am at school now and I am reading through the thread and writing my post.
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I am really confused about everything that is going on. I have been reading the thread, but it is hard to understand something as unorganized as this. Maybe I'm missing something? I am not sure who to agree with. All of the accusations make sense. Eternalmisfit seems like he could be Mafia, and there is definitely good evidence to prove this. Ilovejonn claimed townie and seems suspicious, however he was also the one that first FoS'ed EM. I admit that my accusation of Kevconsim was quite stupid, reading back a few posts, but again, I hadn't seen the post about his emergency when I posted that accusation. Just because I am the easiest target doesn't mean you should gang up on me. In Sc2 Mafia, when the silent people get lynched, the loud ones turn out to be Mafia.
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I haven't been posting much lately because I don't really know what to do or say. Are we generally agreeing to pick out two people to vote on again?
I'm leaning toward EternalMisfit at this point. I'm going to vote now since I might not be back before the end of the day.
I think what I'm going to do later is look at the first day of the game and see who was voting for who and who was defending who out out our suspicious people list. I want to look at the posts that weren't necessarily suspicious at the time but might be now.
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My situation is similar to Airblade's. I guess I'll vote EternalMisfit as well, as there seems to be more proof that he is scum than anyone else. Also, he was one of the people that voted for me. I have practice tonight and then an application interview so might not get home until 9:00 PDT. If I get home before 8:00 though, then I might change my vote depending on any new developments. But for now, ##Vote EternalMisfit
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EternalMistfit: 7 Sinani206: 4 Ilovejonn: 2
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