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On July 12 2010 05:32 zeks wrote:
Theres no point in wasting a DT check one of us thats just wasting our limited DT checks.
In fact I think I'm just as confirmed as BM/Hesmyrr if not more.
The 2nd mason will unlock the message with the key I've given him. If that doesn't satisfy all of you we can do it any way you want.
Issue of whether there are masons or not:
Would mafia bet on there be no masons this game and claim early on to gain "permanent" immunity? That's retarded.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. Any idea when the second mason will unlock your message, or are you just waiting for him to sign on?
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the justification behind him not claiming:
if the gf is alive it makes him harder to recruit (can't recruit masons unless roleblocked) so gf waste recruiting power
if the gf isn't alive then in the case the discussion is steered the wrong direction and he's about to be lynched he will claim
if the case my mason partner dies before me i'll unlock the code myself which will decipher my partners name - whether you guys believe me would be up to your discretion but what incentive would i have to lie
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The problem is I don't want cop wasting his investigation on the second mason. Well, either way both Chezinu and youngminii should clearly state their targets, and if one of their target happens to be second mason have him claim immediately. I'll be satisfied with that compromise for now.
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@zeks
I would rather see you and the other mason (AFJ?) claim at the same time
@everyone
what is the reasoning behind voting YI? He is at least providing discussion, unlike say, rastaban or AFJ (though i think he is the mason)
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sure we can do it but
wats the difference if my mason partner posted later...or unlocked my message
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Well since it's apparent that people are set on my lynch, I'll give my final thoughts before I hang. I have no death post - I am townie, I have no secret info.
On July 12 2010 03:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 02:43 YellowInk wrote:
For the record, I'm not convinced we hung the godfather. I can't imagine a game filled with this many strong players continues to fail to see so many things that are obvious. Unfortunately we were not given the tools to counter a straightforward mafia play, so we must simply stay true to the most likely path to victory.
As I've presented numerous significant arguments and the town seems intent on lynching me (Hesmyrr, youngminii, zeks) without expressing any cause, I'm going to try just being quiet for the next 9 hours and see if you guys can just come to a reasonable conclusion on your own. I'll answer any questions asked directly of me, but beyond that, this inaction is maddening and I want no more part of pushing this boulder up a mountain. If your not convinced that we killed the godfather then chances are as of tonight, town has lost. I say that because it would mean the GF would have had time to a) recruit our jail keeper and b) as of tonight recruit the dt (provided neither were red already) giving the mafia the ability to fake clear/convict people while still growing. At this stage of the game, based on current town beliefs, a surviving GF means GG. We cannot afford to think like this. Preaching to the choir. Just pointing out that everything that BM has been doing has been pro-mafia, but since we're in a state that we have to assume he's town due to lack of tools provided to us, the situation is retarded.
Suprising that you should choose to vote for me on this when I've been saying - and even clearly set out the above situation for the town - precisely what you're posing here. You don't vote for all the other people who say, "What if GF?? You just choose to jump on me when I'm pointing out the actual endgame situation.
Here's a good target for you, youngminii. Assuming my words are even worth anything to you.
On July 12 2010 03:49 Bill Murray wrote:
i wasnt recruited, so... :p
this is assuming that i wasnt jailed in relation to being recruited, and that on n1, n2, or whatever nights he has been recruiting, that he wasnt roleblocked and his target wasnt jailed.
you are not taking every variable into consideration here It would probably help everyone if we knew who you were talking to or what you were talking about. You do this frequently. Fix it.
On July 12 2010 05:32 zeks wrote:
Theres no point in wasting a DT check one of us thats just wasting our limited DT checks.
In fact I think I'm just as confirmed as BM/Hesmyrr if not more.
The 2nd mason will unlock the message with the key I've given him. If that doesn't satisfy all of you we can do it any way you want.
Issue of whether there are masons or not:
Would mafia bet on there be no masons this game and claim early on to gain "permanent" immunity? That's retarded.
You are more confirmed than Hesmyrr, but less so than Bill Murray/youngminii. There is the chance that there are no masons. You and your goon buddy could be hiding under cover of being masons and the game has no masons. I find this unlikely, but it is a possibility. Considering we were only given one roleblocker, I'm willing to accept pretty much anything in this setup now. I already outlined why you could have opened the game with your strategy as a goon. However, by day 4, if there are any masons, you are it.
On July 12 2010 05:54 zeks wrote:
the justification behind him not claiming:
if the gf is alive it makes him harder to recruit (can't recruit masons unless roleblocked) so gf waste recruiting power
if the gf isn't alive then in the case the discussion is steered the wrong direction and he's about to be lynched he will claim
if the case my mason partner dies before me i'll unlock the code myself which will decipher my partners name - whether you guys believe me would be up to your discretion but what incentive would i have to lie Posts like this make me wonder why I post. Half the town apparently doesn't read the thread anyway. I'm tired of preaching 'stop being inactive' game after game.
Good luck, town!
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Atleast you know that I'm active. 
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Bye YI 
one less active, productive poster
congrats town
I don't know if we even deserve to win anymore. Very lucky DT check won us the game (hopefully)
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On July 12 2010 09:27 DCLXVI wrote:Bye YI one less active, productive poster congrats town I don't know if we even deserve to win anymore. Very lucky DT check won us the game (hopefully)
Dont forget the modkill of the traitor/mafia as well.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2010 09:08 YellowInk wrote:Well since it's apparent that people are set on my lynch, I'll give my final thoughts before I hang. I have no death post - I am townie, I have no secret info. Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 03:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 12 2010 02:43 YellowInk wrote:
For the record, I'm not convinced we hung the godfather. I can't imagine a game filled with this many strong players continues to fail to see so many things that are obvious. Unfortunately we were not given the tools to counter a straightforward mafia play, so we must simply stay true to the most likely path to victory.
As I've presented numerous significant arguments and the town seems intent on lynching me (Hesmyrr, youngminii, zeks) without expressing any cause, I'm going to try just being quiet for the next 9 hours and see if you guys can just come to a reasonable conclusion on your own. I'll answer any questions asked directly of me, but beyond that, this inaction is maddening and I want no more part of pushing this boulder up a mountain. If your not convinced that we killed the godfather then chances are as of tonight, town has lost. I say that because it would mean the GF would have had time to a) recruit our jail keeper and b) as of tonight recruit the dt (provided neither were red already) giving the mafia the ability to fake clear/convict people while still growing. At this stage of the game, based on current town beliefs, a surviving GF means GG. We cannot afford to think like this. Preaching to the choir. Just pointing out that everything that BM has been doing has been pro-mafia, but since we're in a state that we have to assume he's town due to lack of tools provided to us, the situation is retarded. Suprising that you should choose to vote for me on this when I've been saying - and even clearly set out the above situation for the town - precisely what you're posing here. You don't vote for all the other people who say, "What if GF?? You just choose to jump on me when I'm pointing out the actual endgame situation. Here's a good target for you, youngminii. Assuming my words are even worth anything to you. Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 03:49 Bill Murray wrote:
i wasnt recruited, so... :p
this is assuming that i wasnt jailed in relation to being recruited, and that on n1, n2, or whatever nights he has been recruiting, that he wasnt roleblocked and his target wasnt jailed.
you are not taking every variable into consideration here It would probably help everyone if we knew who you were talking to or what you were talking about. You do this frequently. Fix it. Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 05:32 zeks wrote:
Theres no point in wasting a DT check one of us thats just wasting our limited DT checks.
In fact I think I'm just as confirmed as BM/Hesmyrr if not more.
The 2nd mason will unlock the message with the key I've given him. If that doesn't satisfy all of you we can do it any way you want.
Issue of whether there are masons or not:
Would mafia bet on there be no masons this game and claim early on to gain "permanent" immunity? That's retarded.
You are more confirmed than Hesmyrr, but less so than Bill Murray/youngminii. There is the chance that there are no masons. You and your goon buddy could be hiding under cover of being masons and the game has no masons. I find this unlikely, but it is a possibility. Considering we were only given one roleblocker, I'm willing to accept pretty much anything in this setup now. I already outlined why you could have opened the game with your strategy as a goon. However, by day 4, if there are any masons, you are it. Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 05:54 zeks wrote:
the justification behind him not claiming:
if the gf is alive it makes him harder to recruit (can't recruit masons unless roleblocked) so gf waste recruiting power
if the gf isn't alive then in the case the discussion is steered the wrong direction and he's about to be lynched he will claim
if the case my mason partner dies before me i'll unlock the code myself which will decipher my partners name - whether you guys believe me would be up to your discretion but what incentive would i have to lie Posts like this make me wonder why I post. Half the town apparently doesn't read the thread anyway. I'm tired of preaching 'stop being inactive' game after game. Good luck, town!
Okay first of all, you have to chill out, you can argue without being insulting. Second, I gave my explanations many times. I have my suspicions set on you and BC but I can't seem to find any evidence against BC. I've already reposted my explanation regarding my suspicion against you but you don't seem to pay any attention to it.
Also, who's a good target for me? Because if you're lynched, then I am definitely checking BC.
I repeat in big bold letters:
I am checking BC tonight. Do not jail him.
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i'm jailing you. hope you mean the "other" jailer if we have one. going to address what i've missed after this... easy to address bold @ bottom first. will make 2 posts. hope town wins
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sorry, yellowink, i was going to unvote you, but you have gotten on my nerves one too many times. only other things i'd address that i read:
i am going to have zeks lynched if he doesn't claim who the other mason is
BC: i disagree again on whether or not the GF being alive = auto-win. He could literally be the only mafia if shit happened during the night to prevent his recruitments. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? No. Nothing really to argue here. I agree with you, and I understand you were saying it is pointless to talk about that, but I will always account for possibilities if I realize them.
i like the way brownbear, hesmyrr, youngminii, bc, chezinu, myself, and zeks have been acting. zeks less than the others because there is no fucking point in not disclosing who his partner is because the mafia will want to kill/recruit me/youngminii assuming youngminii isn't lying/mafia. i know i'm not.
yellowink, get the fuck over how i post.
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Did citi.zen claim DT after check or before check? I don't remember...if before check then its reasonable youngminii would check him
I'm not doing this (revealing my partner) cause you threatened to try to get me lynched BM but tbh I think this is for the greater good. I've PMed my mason partner a couple of times but he hasn't replied (nor has he posted for a while i think) and I've respected his decision to not claim but with most of our roles wide open now this isn't that bad of an idea.
To no surprise the other mason is AcrossFiveJulys
g6<9<<x?N.n<?C=
http://www.seabreezecomputers.com/encrypter/
Decrypted with the key: "coffeeortea"
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i should've used a more secure way to do it definitely
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On July 05 2010 09:17 youngminii wrote:
Depends on the key. Is it TEA?
I was actually thinking of writing a small program to try brute force to decrypt it, using numbers and words from the dictionary.
Either way, Chez's post seems very suspicious.
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Lynch is in ten minutes right?
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On July 10 2010 16:03 DarthThienAn wrote:
Hey guys. =X My bad. Forgot, time zones and all. Uhh.
Abenson is now dead
Divinek is now dead
Day 4 gogo
July 12 - July 10 = two days... I guess so, can you tally votes for us, I'm too tired.
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Night 4:
Music:
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YellowInk got lynched.
In other news...
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AcrossFiveJulys modkilled.
YellowInk is now dead
AcrossFiveJulys is now dead
Brownbear is now dead
It is now Night 4. Send me your night actions.
Dead people, don't forget to death post if you want to.
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On July 12 2010 10:32 zeks wrote:Did citi.zen claim DT after check or before check? I don't remember...if before check then its reasonable youngminii would check him I'm not doing this (revealing my partner) cause you threatened to try to get me lynched BM but tbh I think this is for the greater good. I've PMed my mason partner a couple of times but he hasn't replied (nor has he posted for a while i think) and I've respected his decision to not claim but with most of our roles wide open now this isn't that bad of an idea. To no surprise the other mason is AcrossFiveJulysg6<9<<x?N.n<?C= http://www.seabreezecomputers.com/encrypter/Decrypted with the key: "coffeeortea"
Too bad A5J is going to get modkilled. Looks like we can't confirm you.
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lol, thanks for reminding me. will edit modkills in in a second.
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