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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 15:03 GMT
#1641
+ Show Spoiler +
Strategic modkills are NOT allowed, either.

So no. Terrible one potential confirm (second mason) died. I'll do a quick check up to see what to do. Also chez, young already checked BM O.O
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 12 2010 15:27 GMT
#1642
chez must of mistyped cause young said he's checking BC
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 15:50 GMT
#1643
Quick question, why is DCLXVI on the list of confirmed people? I couldn't find anything that clears him. I am not saying he is mafia, but I don' think he should be listed as 100% not. I may have missed something, I did a search but didn't find anything.

That gives us this list

1. Chezinu - Dream Catcher/Hatter No counter claim ~75% confirmed
4. zeks - Mason (No counter claim - confirmed)
5. Thegilaboy (BloodyC0bbler) - Townie/Mafia
7. Bill Murray - Jailer/ Vet (DT confirmed)
10. DCLXVI - Townie/Mafia
11. Hesmyrr - jailed by BM 2 nights in a row (N1 recruit possibility but very slim statistically 95% confirmed if BM is town)
12. youngminii - DT (No counter claim, gave us GF - confirmed)
19. rastaban - Townie/Mafia

Possibles:
5. Thegilaboy (BloodyC0bbler) - Townie/Mafia
10. DCLXVI - Townie/Mafia
19. rastaban - Townie/Mafia

If DT checks BC as is the plan then if he is town we can double lynch DC and myself, if he is red then we get a confirmed mafia and can decide if it is better to go for a double lynch and and investigate the last one or not.

If BM Jails YoungMini then we are guaranteed at least these 2 DT checks so we should be fine.


I think this is pretty much the plan everyone is already stating so I am not realy adding much I just wanted to fact check it and make sure that it works out. If I was wrong and DCLXVI is confirmed then this should be even quicker.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 15:57 GMT
#1644
oh, and if there isn't a win by then DT or hang Chezinu last since he has the weakest claim

worst case right now is

5/2 after night kill, I think we got one mafia with the 3 that just died so probably 6/1

we have to kill at least 1 mafia tomorrow if we didn't get 1 tonight. lets say worse case, that chez is mafia

after 2x lynch tomorrow we would have

4/1 and then 3/1 after night kill.

which would be enough to hang Chez if we were wrong about him.

The only way this doesn't work is if zekz, BM, youngminii, are the goons. If that is so then we probably have already lost.



Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:01 GMT
#1645
Likely Confirmed[/i]
youngminii, Bill Murray, zeks, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), BloodyC0bbler, DCLXVI, rastaban

[b]A5J, if zeks were indeed banking on your death and wrote your name down to frame you as second mason upon your death, write "skez" as your death post. If you confirm zeks write "mason". youngminii investigates BloodyC0bbler, Chezinu switches one of his bomb to someone that is NOT BloodyC0bbler or likely confirmed Townies.

Also the town was being stupid and failed to attain majority needed for double lynch. We can only lynch single player tomorrow. I am SO angry about that. If BC doesn't turn out to be scum and jailkeeper dies, we end up at:

5-2
[b]Likely Confirmed
youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), DCLXVI, rastaban
[/i]
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:05 GMT
#1646
Oh wait, DCLXVI IS Cleared. Nice. Thanks for reminding me rastaban.

Likely Confirmed
youngminii, BloodyC0bbler, zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr

Unconfirmed
Chezinu (Mad Hatter), rastaban

DCLXVI is clear because he was roleblocked and the kill still occured. Godfather immediately died thereafter following day.

So Chezinu, switch your bomb to rastaban or just withdraw one that is on Likely Confirmed players if you already did.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:08 GMT
#1647
Actually if you currently have bomb on rastaban and you have second one to spare, transfer it to zeks. Then we lynch Chezinu to remove doubtful Townies at once; Chezinu, zeks, rastaban. Even after one kill occurs it is still lylo with two confirmed Townies and one possibly unconfirmed one (me).
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 16:11 GMT
#1648
I just realized that the rules stated you had to vote for 2x lynch the day before. I thought you voted for it on the same day, which is why I don't think anyone pushed for it very hard. That and the fact that there were inactive.

I think the plan can still work as long as we get vote 2x lynch tomorrow.

worse case say you hang me and C and D are mafia you would have

4-2, and then 3-2 the next day after night kills. execute both of them and it should be a win (plus you could DT someone else as well just in case.)

We just have to make sure that the double lynch goes through.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 16:14 GMT
#1649
why are you listing zeks as doubtful? to me he has the strongest claim of anyone, darth pointed out in the card selection method that we have 2 masons and 2 lovers. There is no way we still have 2 masons who never claimed.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:15 GMT
#1650
So this is my finalized plan. Igonore everything I said above:

YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler
BILL MURRAY jails youngminii
CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr).

zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed.

DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:16 GMT
#1651
On July 13 2010 01:14 rastaban wrote:
why are you listing zeks as doubtful? to me he has the strongest claim of anyone, darth pointed out in the card selection method that we have 2 masons and 2 lovers. There is no way we still have 2 masons who never claimed.

Just realized that and adjusted my plan accordingly. As long as A5J replies "Mason" it will be clear and peachy. In the end Chezinu, you, and me are the only one unconfirmed.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 16:19 GMT
#1652
Sounds good, we are going to go for a double lynch tomorrow as well right?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 12 2010 16:22 GMT
#1653
Probably. I'm going to copy paste this color-coded plan on the front of every page

YOUNGMINII investigates BloodyC0bbler
BILL MURRAY jails youngminii
CHEZINU switches his bomb to rastaban, and if he already has his bomb on rastaban, switch his second bomb to me (Hesmyrr).

zeks is CLEAR because the A5J proved he was not recruited by BrownBear's death, which can only be explained by Mad Hatter. Thus if A5J writes "Mason" as the death post, then zek is 100% confirmed.

DCLXVI is CLEAR because he was roleblocked yet kill still occured; the Godfather died following day so he couldn't have been recruited thereafter.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 16:35 GMT
#1654
I just want to work out what happens if they target hatter then:

5 are left tomorrow:

youngminii, zeks, DCLXVI, BM
DTed: BloodyC0bbler

They can then lynch BC if he is mafia. once again the only way it should fail is if Young is a goon. The plan seems solid.

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
July 12 2010 18:24 GMT
#1655
don't know why people are saying hesmyrr is 95% or something. he could have been recruited night 0
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 19:13 GMT
#1656
On July 13 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote:
don't know why people are saying hesmyrr is 95% or something. he could have been recruited night 0


statistically, the odds of him being recruited on night 0 are 1/19. 1/19 = just a fraction over 5% which means he had a 94.xxx% chance of not being recruited. We also know that L was recruited either night 1 or night 0, if L was night 0 then there is a 100% chance he wasn't recruited. so he either 100% townie or 95% townie, if you combine those you actually get an even higher chance he is townie.

Now of course based on his playstyle and citizens recruit methods that number could change due to personal preference, but statistically speaking these numbers are right.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 19:18 GMT
#1657
Here is confirmation for my numbers in case anyone thinks I am making them up.

Chance he was recruited: 1/19 = 5.263%
Chance he is townie 18/19 = 94.74%

because 1 out of 19 people were recruited
meaning 18 ot of 19 people were townie then

I think we should still be wary, but 94.74% are the kind of odds I like.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 12 2010 19:23 GMT
#1658
If we analyze L's posting behaviour we should be able to tell whether he got recruited 0 or 1. If we come to a conclusion that he was recruited at night 1 we lynch Hesmyrr.

Wait so BM is vet + jk?

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 12 2010 19:35 GMT
#1659
On July 13 2010 04:23 zeks wrote:
If we analyze L's posting behaviour we should be able to tell whether he got recruited 0 or 1. If we come to a conclusion that he was recruited at night 1 we lynch Hesmyrr.

Wait so BM is vet + jk?



The problem is that L was traitor, so regardless of when he was recruited his posts should have had the same agenda, the winning of the mafia.

BM is most likely JK, or someone out there is. I think he is claiming vet sometimes to confuse the mafia from targeting him. We know he is blue so that should be good enough, if he is jk then the vet is probably hidden, if he is vet then jk is still hidden. as long as the jk keeps youngminii alive to night we should have a town win regardless of if, they his the jk tonight.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 12 2010 19:39 GMT
#1660
i'm just thinking about what to do if the games not over after you, DCLXVI, and Hesmyrr have all died
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
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