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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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On July 12 2010 02:25 YellowInk wrote: Sure. We lynch rastaban, who for whatever reason never trusted youngminii/BM despite it being our best route for victory. He had his bombs on youngminii and BM who then immediately die. Town can definitely lose from this kind of position. This is an extreme example, but there are other similar examples that can be made. This is also not a commentary on rastaban's choices or thoughts, just giving an example of someone who might get lynched since the town can't seem to settle on someone to hang. this post, regardless of whether or not he's "just using rastaban as an example" makes me want to lynch them both | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 12 2010 03:49 Bill Murray wrote: i wasnt recruited, so... :p this is assuming that i wasnt jailed in relation to being recruited, and that on n1, n2, or whatever nights he has been recruiting, that he wasnt roleblocked and his target wasnt jailed. you are not taking every variable into consideration here I basically said worst case scenario. At this stage if the GF is alive town is fucked. Town has already used most other number stats up there already, so seems pointless to redo them. I was more commenting on his disbelief the GF was dead. | ||
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Chezinu
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Chezinu
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BrownBear
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On July 12 2010 02:09 Hesmyrr wrote: Oh that's true, I don't think presence of Chezinu and delayed double lynch don't change much though. 9-2 Bill Murray killed. 7-2 [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 3 living three players youngminii killed. 4-1 [TOWN] 5 zeks, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 living one players Town lock. == Worst case scenario where Mad Hatter has placed both of his bombs on Town side == Before mafia hit, Chezinu switches one of his bomb on Town side to "Town or Mafia" side. Chenizu and DT also announce their targets to prevent stacking, so DT don't end up investigating player with the bomb. Mafia hit Chenizu. In worst case scenario, Jailkeeper (not DT since Chezinu CAN move one bomb) and one "Town or Mafia" blows up. Let us assume second mason claim and one player claims mason. There are 5 TOWN OR MAFIA players. One is lynched today. Chezinu is killed. One gets blown up. One gets investigated. [TOWN] 6 zeks, youngminii, DCLXVI, Hesmyrr, second mason, n3 investigation [TOWN OR MAFIA] 1 One living player Since double lynch, kill final living player and Hesmyrr for the town lock. This. I'm going to say regardless of who we lynch tonight, youngminii shold DT check either me or YellowInk (if YI survives the lynchphase) - me because I'm starting to attract suspicion, I am townie, and I don't want to die (selfish play, perhaps, but I also don't want town to waste a lynch on me), or YI because he's acting the most scummy ATM, but I know he's been very active and I don't want to lose his ability to keep the thread moving unless he absolutely is mafia. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 12 2010 03:54 Chezinu wrote: The bomb has already chosen its target. The target hasn't prove himself innocent nor made an attempt. It's funny that people took the list I made of suspects and added me to it. Question: How is zeks confirmed? Mason claim Day 1 that was uncontested, meaning that he must logically be mason. | ||
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Chezinu
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 12 2010 03:58 BrownBear wrote: Mason claim Day 1 that was uncontested, meaning that he must logically be mason. Add in that so far the only roleblocker found has been Ace means its unlikely that the mafia managed to roleblock him on a night the GF recruited. | ||
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Chezinu
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 12 2010 03:59 Chezinu wrote: Why because we don't have masons? lol... Darth only admitted that we have lovers not masons.. He has never admitted that we have DC's, or hatters either. For all we know the only blues we got were two coroners, a jailer, roleblocker and a dt. Not meaning to be a complete douche, but it seems reasonable that if no one has contested his claim, nor has he been discounted via the dt he can be considered legit. However, worst case scenario puts him as a mafia who lied, or GF who lied and has yet to be checked. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On July 12 2010 04:00 Chezinu wrote: if the godfather is truly dead... why won't masons claim together confirming each other? Good point. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
Can we have this happen, actually? At this point, it's not like they're priority targets for scum. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
Point about mason is correct though; second mason really needs to come up with a key sooner or later to verify zek's mason claim. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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The next minor issue is you would need a DT to check one of them, as only masons and unless game mechanics have changed for some reason, mafia can PM. Regardless, adds people to the confirmed side of things even before the DT check as no one contested the claim early game. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
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On July 12 2010 04:06 Hesmyrr wrote: To be honest, I find it hugely douche move (unless specifically stated to be bastard setup) to put in OP the role that does not really exist in the setup. I never saw it done in TL. Point about mason is correct though; second mason really needs to come up with a key sooner or later to verify zek's mason claim. I know when I have hosted previously I have excluded the miller role for instance, as the threat of it in the OP was enough to make people not trust dt checks 100%. I also believe certain games have had hatters + vigi's in the OP and only used one of the roles. Depends on the number of players you have to balance out the game. | ||
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BrownBear
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Chezinu
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On June 27 2010 03:34 DarthThienAn wrote: Roles This is an semi-open setup. Roles will be disclosed, but role counts will not. Read this section carefully, as the roles may be different from what you are familiar with. | ||
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Chezinu
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zeks
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In fact I think I'm just as confirmed as BM/Hesmyrr if not more. The 2nd mason will unlock the message with the key I've given him. If that doesn't satisfy all of you we can do it any way you want. Issue of whether there are masons or not: Would mafia bet on there be no masons this game and claim early on to gain "permanent" immunity? That's retarded. | ||
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