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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 04 2009 06:51 GMT
#141
On February 04 2009 12:03 Sadist wrote:
how come they start at 2000 and not 1000 like most ELO's ive come in contact with?

Because StarCraft is twice as awesome and is modern so it honors the 21st century. Don't you guys know anything.
Peace~
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
February 04 2009 17:30 GMT
#142
that was very witty of you.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 04 2009 22:49 GMT
#143
On February 05 2009 02:30 Sadist wrote:
that was very witty of you.

I am a very intuitive, intelligent, and introspective person, thanks.
Peace~
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
February 06 2009 20:23 GMT
#144
The all-time record could be broken tomorrow! 3-0 would surely give Bisu another 24 points. Don't know about 3-1. 3-2 shouldn't be enough.

What are the K-values/etc used in the TL elo system?
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 06 2009 20:57 GMT
#145
On February 07 2009 05:23 Signet wrote:
The all-time record could be broken tomorrow! 3-0 would surely give Bisu another 24 points. Don't know about 3-1. 3-2 shouldn't be enough.

What are the K-values/etc used in the TL elo system?

3-0 wouldn't give him 24 points. ELO does not work that way.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 21:06:06
February 06 2009 20:59 GMT
#146
well, we could just simulate it and see

1-0: 2321
2-0: 2329
3-0: 2336 (tied with Flash for highest peak)

bisu would definitely lose points if he went 3-2, 3-1 probably breakeven or slight increase. obviously, if he loses the series he'll be down below 2300.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 11:09:56
February 08 2009 11:09 GMT
#147
+ Show Spoiler [Gom tv final spoiler] +
Bisu is currently at 2312. But with the wins over jangbi i think he can surpass iloveoov !!!!

gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
February 08 2009 11:12 GMT
#148
On February 04 2009 12:03 Sadist wrote:
how come they start at 2000 and not 1000 like most ELO's ive come in contact with?

Just because I thought it made for nicer looking numbers, basically . What you start with doesn't actually matter.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
February 08 2009 11:17 GMT
#149
Anyone who can post the forumla for calculationg ELO?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
February 08 2009 11:26 GMT
#150
On February 08 2009 20:17 sidesprang wrote:
Anyone who can post the forumla for calculationg ELO?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating#Mathematical_details
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
February 08 2009 11:28 GMT
#151
On January 04 2009 11:02 lolaloc wrote:
What's with the number 2300??

Aside that it's a really high number elo...

Why not a flat 2000?


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do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 08 2009 11:34 GMT
#152
games added

2325 right now that is
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IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
February 08 2009 11:35 GMT
#153
only 4 points below oov, very close. Lets see what mbc against skt1 brings us tomorrow
aka DTF-ZeRo
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 11:37:50
February 08 2009 11:35 GMT
#154
by the way bisu's pvp win % just went above his pvz win % for the first time (less games tho)
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Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 11:38:58
February 08 2009 11:37 GMT
#155
On February 08 2009 20:26 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2009 20:17 sidesprang wrote:
Anyone who can post the forumla for calculationg ELO?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating#Mathematical_details

From the numbers Hot_Bid posted, it looks like TLPD uses a K value of ~20 for their scoring. (or at least when the players are close in rating)

Spoiler: GOM Results
+ Show Spoiler +
So with WLWW for Bisu, his new ELO should be approx 2325.


edit - ah, looks like they've added the games already
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 11:41:55
February 08 2009 11:39 GMT
#156
On February 04 2009 10:06 imRadu wrote:
have you guys considered a bayesian prior distribution in order to prevent inflation?

Inflation hasn't been a significant issue in practice with Starcraft Elos, according to my checks (and at any rate, Elo systems may actually have a tendancy towards *de*flation - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating#Mathematical_details). But a Bayesian model might be ideal.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-08 12:10:16
February 08 2009 11:51 GMT
#157
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 08 2009 13:50 GMT
#158
Bisu can go to hell. If this keeps up he is only setting himself up for the fall later when him and savior face off in the finals (Savior destroy obv.).
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7111 Posts
February 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#159
On February 08 2009 20:51 Pioneer wrote:

yet again a blank post by Pioneer

So mysterious!
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
February 09 2009 00:43 GMT
#160
Bisu 2325 hmmm

nice ^_^
the throws never bothered me anyway
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