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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 15 2012 15:07 GMT
#1561
On January 15 2012 23:02 Kurumi wrote:
Jackal
up for some chatting?

Always. Rereading the game. And fwiw I agreed with Bugs on Palmar. If he hadn't been calling for him to be lynched I would have.
Life can only kill you once.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 15:40 GMT
#1562
On January 16 2012 00:07 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 23:02 Kurumi wrote:
Jackal
up for some chatting?

Always. Rereading the game. And fwiw I agreed with Bugs on Palmar. If he hadn't been calling for him to be lynched I would have.

Didn't Palmar seem more like a Bored Townie than Mafia Member? Weren't there better targets? Like, Kenpachi or Cyriandor?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
rtgICEMAN
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania66 Posts
January 15 2012 15:45 GMT
#1563
Why kenpachi ? Why cyriandor ?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1564
On January 15 2012 22:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Bill, I think you're putting too many players on the Town list.For some of them, I don't even undestand the reason why-WBG, kita and sheth too. Sheth started a Protact vote wagon, and you list protact as scum, shouldnt he be suspected?

Also we should focus on 1 or 2 lynch candidates, and pressure them hard, else we let them get away with diverting attention and starting third-party wagons.
Right now, those would be Risk.nuke and Macpo.

I encourage them to post in the next 6 hours, else they're scum in my eyes.They're from EU too, so they have no excuse.

When you pick out 2 people amongst 50 and tell everyone these guys are the ones we should focus on I would love to hear some reasoning why us. You know, rather then we should look for reasoning to kill these 2.
+ Show Spoiler +
aka we should tunnel these guys untill we find something we can lynch them for.

Also scumpoints for using the awesome scumterm "we should" rather then "I will".
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#1565
On January 16 2012 00:45 rtgICEMAN wrote:
Why kenpachi ? Why cyriandor ?

Maybe You?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#1566
On January 16 2012 00:40 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:07 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 15 2012 23:02 Kurumi wrote:
Jackal
up for some chatting?

Always. Rereading the game. And fwiw I agreed with Bugs on Palmar. If he hadn't been calling for him to be lynched I would have.

Didn't Palmar seem more like a Bored Townie than Mafia Member? Weren't there better targets? Like, Kenpachi or Cyriandor?

The bored part I agree with. But bored Palmar has always been scum Palmar up to now. Kenpachi starts every game the same way. That doesn't make him a better or worse option. I don't know Cyriandor so I can't make a comparison based on meta. And meta is the sole purpose I had for agreeing with Bugs. What I didn't like was BC abandoning his own beliefs to lynch Palmar. that was pretty much bullshit.
Life can only kill you once.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 15 2012 16:20 GMT
#1567
Ok, I see you have responded.Good, first things first:
I noticed you actually only contribute when you are threatened.Your post confirms that.Suspicious but not nearly enough to make a case.
Then You proceed by attacking your attackers, namely JayJay and me.


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On January 15 2012 02:29 Jayjay54 wrote:


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On January 15 2012 02:17 risk.nuke wrote:


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He made some bad posts and then disappears, agree. It's odd, but some people have to do stuff on the weekend. He's def a candidate though - Jay
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I just realised this. Look at my posthistory and tell me if you would describe it as "I made some bad posts".
SCUM for softdefending me without seeing my filter.

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I don't know, if I should respond to that. L had a point and called me out for a reason. I like to clarify things then. And it is important to do so.

But your accusation is clearly OMGUS. I didn't even really accuse you and said you might be busy during the weekend. Who are you to tell me that I didn't look into your filter and that I don't keep a spreadsheet? That's just not right. Also, notice how I said bad, not scummy.


So a) you're campaign "always a townie" was just. well, bad. I didn't like it, it felt generic, it was badly formated and it lacked a solid gameplan.

b) calling out rgSchworz because he didn't like your campaign either in a very agressive and condescending way. again, not even really scummy. just bad.

All in all yeah, I think you are one candidate to look out for. After this post even more. Although, and I repeat myself here, I don't even think you're scummy, but you seem scummy, because your posts lack quality.
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What omgus are you speaking of? Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move. Scum loves to do this but townies do this to and that is not what I am reacting on. Here is the thing. Jay refered to my posts as bad. Which to anyone who looks at them could see they are clearly not bad. They are few but there isn't a single irrelevant/bad post in there. So why would anyone call them bad? Well they wouldn't. So why would Jay defend me without reading my filter. Well because he is scum and therefor know I am town and unluckily assumed that the reason I was looked at was a bad post. He was beeing uncarefull and made a scumslip. And Jay haven't accused me so how can It be omgus. Look at the mass contradictions in his followup post. "I wasn't accusing you, but this is omgus" and "I don't think you're scum but you're scummy" <--- WHAT?
He is also bringing up rgSchwors which makes no sense unless perhaps feels it's more pro-town to ignore attacks on you.
I was just arguing/discussion with rhSchwors when he attacked my candidacy which is the natural thing to do. He's just trying hard to make me look bad.


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On January 15 2012 02:32 Mattchew wrote:
yay for risk.nuke and jayjay tunneling one another because they disagree
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mattchew, he might be tunneling the me, but I am clearly not tunneling him with one post. Why on earth did you make a post like that for because it's purpose seemed to be to minimize, lessen and prevent discussion of this. Which seems incredibly biased.
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If I'm elected I'll lynch Jay, I support BC for the election stronger then before because of jay's efforts against him.

You're working based on the assumption that your posts are awesome, which they are not. You have started a campaign then continued by NOT PUTTING ANY EFFORT.You accuse JayJay on no basis, instead making the assumption that he's scum to explain your POV.

Also scumpoints for using the awesome scumterm "we should" rather then "I will".

Utter bullshit.You want to basically isolate me by telling me to use,, I will''. And you know that without town's support, you're free to live another day.
SCUM
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 15 2012 16:22 GMT
#1568
Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move

SO he's doing a scum-move thats not a scummy move?
Omg, i sense contradiction
rtgICEMAN
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania66 Posts
January 15 2012 16:23 GMT
#1569
On January 16 2012 01:22 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move

SO he's doing a scum-move thats not a scummy move?
Omg, i sense contradiction

LOL
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 16:25 GMT
#1570
On January 16 2012 00:53 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 00:45 rtgICEMAN wrote:
Why kenpachi ? Why cyriandor ?

Maybe You?


imo he seemed more like a stubborn towni. He did the EXACT SAME THING he did this game last game and had to change it because people called him out.
He tried it again and told himself that he won't change it this time and try something different (again) just this time he went with it.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 16:31 GMT
#1571
On January 16 2012 01:23 rtgICEMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:22 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move

SO he's doing a scum-move thats not a scummy move?
Omg, i sense contradiction

LOL


the funny fart here, is not even the self contradection, but that I didn't softdefend him whatsoever. I called him a lynch candidate

but that just shows that he didn't really think that through at all.

I'm still leaning towards bad town player instead of scum.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 16:32 GMT
#1572
and by fart I mean part nice typo though
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rtgICEMAN
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania66 Posts
January 15 2012 16:36 GMT
#1573
yeah i was somehow wondering what funny fart means.
rtgICEMAN
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania66 Posts
January 15 2012 16:39 GMT
#1574
anyway risk.nuke may be a perfect lynch candidate but as jayjay said he could just be a bad town player instead of scum.Macpo's posts are also pretty weird and i find him scummy as well.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#1575
Look I won't bitch with you two, alot of people seem convinced jayjay is town for very inadequate reasons. Which is scummy in itself because first of all smart townies doesn't let the scum know who they have townreads on. That is just bad town play.
Speaking of it bad play that brings us to rg. Distinguishing bad townie play from scum play is very hard and as for now rG might very well just be a bad townie.

But I'm watching you.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#1576
On January 16 2012 01:39 rtgICEMAN wrote:
anyway risk.nuke may be a perfect lynch candidate but as jayjay said he could just be a bad town player instead of scum.Macpo's posts are also pretty weird and i find him scummy as well.

Elaborate or fucking die.
I just got lynched in a game where I was townie and I had 20 people chanting he is scum, he is scum. Why I said several times? Can you tell me why I am scum? What will you learn from my death. They stood silently for 20 minutes. Because you're scum one said. Yeah because you're scum the rest continued. The worst damn townplay I have ever seen and a scum paradise to hide in. So elaborate NOW!
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 16:49 GMT
#1577
On January 16 2012 01:43 risk.nuke wrote:
Look I won't bitch with you two, alot of people seem convinced jayjay is town for very inadequate reasons. Which is scummy in itself because first of all smart townies doesn't let the scum know who they have townreads on. That is just bad town play.
Speaking of it bad play that brings us to rg. Distinguishing bad townie play from scum play is very hard and as for now rG might very well just be a bad townie.

But I'm watching you.


depends. If you want to lynch someone I got a townread on I'm going to tell you to shut the fuck up because I think he's a townie. So no telling people your townreads is obviously not always bad.
Furthermore it makes reading BM pretty nice. Depending on where I disagree or agree I'm able to say he's probably town or mafia.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 15 2012 16:51 GMT
#1578
On January 16 2012 01:23 rtgICEMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:22 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move

SO he's doing a scum-move thats not a scummy move?
Omg, i sense contradiction

LOL

On January 16 2012 01:22 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move

SO he's doing a scum-move thats not a scummy move?
Omg, i sense contradiction

Are you two the same person??????
Life can only kill you once.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 16:52 GMT
#1579
btw I'm not convinced risk.nuke is mafia at all :p

I'd gladly lynch scumdroba or bum. I think sandroba is more scummy however I am a little afraid that we might end up lynching a townie because BC might be a mafia too. If BC's a mafia I don' think sandroba is mafia.
Conclusion: I want to lynch sandroba. I'd rather not risk lynching BC so early and lynching sandroba is way better information for us while giving pretty decent chance to hit a red mine
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 15 2012 16:54 GMT
#1580
Man, I'm not siding with anybody. Iceman seems to be repeating what others already said, so that naturally makes him suspicious also, as he wants to blend in.

You are not defending your case.
I am NOT convinced JayJay is town, only thing I know about him is that he's active, and seems not to contradict himself.And that he's probably german.
Distinguishing bad townie play from scum play is very hard

Oh really? Bad townies usually don't have a spider sense that tells them to accuse whoever accused them.
That is what you are doing right now, may I remind you.
And I don't work based on townreads. I know that we have limited opportunities to lynch scum, and i'm trying to get this done.

At the moment, you're not defending yourself, you aren't saying anything of importance other than the fact that I may be stupid, you are trying to avoid this issue I raised multiple times.One more nail in the coffin and you're certainly red in my eyes.
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