EPTPTP IV - Demon's Run - Page 74
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
TECHNICALLY not against rules bro. Plus mods allowed it when I gave them a list of things they could change. If you weren't confirmed before you are now though imo. I think. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Instead, I propose lynching the dude who's asking for the TARDIS, indicating that he knows something we don't know (or I didn't know), saying that he needs it AND protection so he can win the game for town, saying that he GOT the TARDIS, and then promptly...oh right, we don't know. We have no idea what's going on over there. People who want specific items for specific reasons in games like this generally don't want them for happy reasons, imo. As a bonus, this is the weirdest single exchange since meapak got shot: On June 25 2013 09:56 gonzaw wrote: 4)Vig shot on snb anyone? Or I guess he'll get replaced now since he's not showing up...in which case...vig shot on snb's replacement anyone? On June 25 2013 10:04 kitaman27 wrote: Why not call a vig on the player you think is most likely to be scum, rather than a random shot in the dark? On June 25 2013 10:21 gonzaw wrote: You mean, why not call vig on a random player I'm not sure is scum yet (austin? or Xfire? or Kurumi?), rather than an anti-town dude that was inactive since 48 hours ago (or more) and will either vote and do shit or be replaced by someone on N2 (so we have 0 info on that guy)? Read guides, vig shots are not just an ego-boost to shoot people you think are scum That exchange is entirely ridiculous. Pretty much urrbody and their mothers says use vigi shots to kill unknowns, because lynching pure question marks gets you very little. I can't find it with 30 seconds of searching, but I'm pretty sure I remember Ace telling people to vig unknowns. As well as a couple other guides. It's not at all a "wrong" thing to do, and kita getting so touchy about it really rubs me the wrong way, as does the way he's phrasing it. This is not a vig shot in the dark at a random dude. This is a dude who has not been playing, therefore we dont' have much to read him off of. Those are good vig targets, and pretty much consensus good vig targets. Gut read is that kita just doesn't want snb shot, and the two are connected. ##vote: kitaman27 | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:05 Dandel Ion wrote: 2 peopel choose roles, 2 people choose names.so how many ppl got the role picks and can you choose who does it The role list is same every day, I choose 4 names each day. I assign one chosen role to one chosen player during the night, they have that power for that night. I can only assign bus passenger as a role if BOTH role-choosers choose that, and then I bus the two chosen players (or one chosen player and a player of my choosing if both name-choosers choose the same name). I know you didn't choose vet. But I made this role because I liked the idea of having a power that you weren't entirely in control of. I get to choose the name list and who to send to. Those people get to choose the boundaries of my night action. I get to choose a particular night action within the set they give me. Didn't realize how...powerless you feel when you have so little control over your ability, and I went with vet over your chosen role because it's less fun to let someone else pick what you can do AND let someone else choose the end effect of your role at night. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
as such until he contributes or explains why hes being completely useless Kitaman | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Each applies only for that night, so it vanished at the end of N1.Austin, did the power you gave to my choice vanish after the night? Or does it stay on until its used? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:39 austinmcc wrote: Each applies only for that night, so it vanished at the end of N1. regardless, he didn't claim it. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
As I wrote and understood the role, he would have been messaged that he was being made a vet for N1 during the night. It also wouldn't make sense for the hosts NOT to message the guy, because if I give medic/vigi/rb, the guy has to use his power and so has to be notified. So he should have known, but didn't say anything. For anyone halfway following, BC voted for kitaman yesterday, and I made kitaman a vet last night. He didn't claim it last night, which is fine, because announcing you're a vet sort of negates it. But he didn't say today "Hey guys, someone made me a vet last night," which is NOT cool because he's hiding information that doesn't really affect the game going forward. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359357&user=kitaman27 or this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=kitaman27 Both of these are games he was town. His play currently is underwowing and downright terrible. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote: Right, I dunno if that's what you were angling for, but no. There shouldn't have been a downside to claiming it, because it should have faded. As I wrote and understood the role, he would have been messaged that he was being made a vet for N1 during the night. It also wouldn't make sense for the hosts NOT to message the guy, because if I give medic/vigi/rb, the guy has to use his power and so has to be notified. So he should have known, but didn't say anything. For anyone halfway following, BC voted for kitaman yesterday, and I made kitaman a vet last night. He didn't claim it last night, which is fine, because announcing you're a vet sort of negates it. But he didn't say today "Hey guys, someone made me a vet last night," which is NOT cool because he's hiding information that doesn't really affect the game going forward. Whats more interesting is how interested he is in everyones roles and how they work but is not sharing the same level of information. Compare his play currently to the few links from the last ptp and storm mafia. I chose both of them because I knew he played in both (died early in ptp3 and lived for ages in storm) I see no similarities between his posting this game and the two I posted. I also chose games that had a fairly large gap of time between them to account for how drastic his "meta" could have changed over time. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
BC is trying to put together a meta argument to call me scum without referencing a scum game. Unfortunately, I can only call him bad, rather than scum. Time for Logic 101, with Professor Kita! In game X, Kita was town. Kita is not playing like game X. Therefore, Kita is scum. Who can spot the fallacy? Anyways, I'll provide an explanation when I get out of work tonight. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:18 austinmcc wrote: 2 peopel choose roles, 2 people choose names. The role list is same every day, I choose 4 names each day. I assign one chosen role to one chosen player during the night, they have that power for that night. I can only assign bus passenger as a role if BOTH role-choosers choose that, and then I bus the two chosen players (or one chosen player and a player of my choosing if both name-choosers choose the same name). I know you didn't choose vet. But I made this role because I liked the idea of having a power that you weren't entirely in control of. I get to choose the name list and who to send to. Those people get to choose the boundaries of my night action. I get to choose a particular night action within the set they give me. Didn't realize how...powerless you feel when you have so little control over your ability, and I went with vet over your chosen role because it's less fun to let someone else pick what you can do AND let someone else choose the end effect of your role at night. I need to know who picked Vet. So I can slap him. Actually, since it's not here anymore, you might as well claim who got it... | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 26 2013 01:22 Dandel Ion wrote: Already did, see above. I need to know who picked Vet. So I can slap him. Actually, since it's not here anymore, you might as well claim who got it... I need to send out today's, and now that the cat's out of the bag I can't really be sneaky with it and try to use it to gain extra information. My initial thought is to put gonzaw, kurumi, and BC on the list, ask people to choose defensive roles, give one of em medic or vet. If anyone's got a better idea, let me know, but I'd like to stick one of them + 1 random on role choosing, and then two of them on person-choosing. If they don't announce, scum won't know exactly who is getting something, and whether one of them is vet protted or has a medic to use tonight. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Kurumi tunnels hard into sk8r during day 1. Paranoid about the unknown. Big null MZ=red Dandel is town, as I said previously geript is town. From his first few posts I got a town vibe from him, and I don't see anything sort of agenda being pushed by him. When someone is getting lynched, he goes on and asks a really townie question(who are your top scumreads and WHY), and I think that's great. austinmcc...idk. BC says he is town, and his latest exchanges show him comfortable... but are they town-oriented? He has a role with little control for himself, which means it's far easier to claim such role. I had bad vibes from him but ALAS I'm townhunting not scumhunting. That said, I don't see anything from him that couldn't be done if he was scum. S&B is a big WAT WoS is town herpderp kitaman falls on the same boat as austin. I see nothing on him that couldn't be done as scum. Xfire saved sk8r's ass, and could be considered town if sk8r ever flips as town. BC is town herpderp Sk8r has disappeared. While the focus was on him, he does very little to prove his innocence. Now that the focus is away from him, he does nothing at all. sigh Xatalos is possibly town. Between all these wall of texts I always have a hard time to read someone. gonzaw feels town to me. He's trying hard to make sense of the situations etc. this means that I got: >austin >S&B >kita >sk8r I don't want to lynch afk-master S&B. Seems like my main town read considers austin to be town and kita to be scum. Welp, I know where my vote is going. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 26 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote: For anyone halfway following, BC voted for kitaman yesterday, and I made kitaman a vet last night. He didn't claim it last night, which is fine, because announcing you're a vet sort of negates it. But he didn't say today "Hey guys, someone made me a vet last night," which is NOT cool because he's hiding information that doesn't really affect the game going forward. Not sure what this is a reference to. I didn't receive any notification that I was a vet last night. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 26 2013 02:03 kitaman27 wrote: I made you a vet last night.Not sure what this is a reference to. I didn't receive any notification that I was a vet last night. However, I re-read the role PM and notes I sent in, and I didn't include a note that the target of my night action should always be notified of what they got. I assumed it in my head since vigi/medic/roleblocker wouldn't work if there was no notification. Double-checking on this. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 22 2013 10:25 kitaman27 wrote: I can't hold back. ##Vote gonzaw Breadcrumbed it with my first post from everyone's favorite 80's hit single: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can't_Hold_Back My win condition is to obtain the TARDIS and survive until endgame. I managed to meet the first condition on night one so now I'm just along for the ride. I also baited the medic role that I created to protect me last night because I didn't want to claim until after the TARDIS was passed to me and getting picked off n1 would have been lame. I don't even have to hold the TARDIS at endgame, so I'll pass it off tonight as a sign of good faith. I can win with either faction (so don't shoot me plz mafia), but based on how mafia likely started that ugly bandwagon on me to save austin, I'll offer town my services free of charge  I'm open to any investigative checks if you feel like wasting your night action, but it will return third party. For the conspiracy theorists that think I planned this from the start, go away. Please note, that if I post in text that is red or green, the message is intended only for the corresponding faction. If you are not part of this faction, I trust you to ignore it. For example, You guys should totally shoot BC instead of myself tonight. Or I think mafia is going to shoot BC. Just a hunch. Good Luck! | ||
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