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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 17:31 GMT
#1281
Hmm so guys, I'm out for tonight and potentially won't make deadline. If you would be so kind as to send BC your night actions...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 11 2010 17:35 GMT
#1282
On June 12 2010 00:54 bumatlarge wrote:
Mtf did post some clues to myself, and i beleive he re-iterated some about crate he had made after day2.

id like to also move those 3 unsures to most likely town, as gilaboy and decond seem deliberatley low post count, in fact id protect these two. deuce is an asshole townie im very certain. They would also be good candidates for rolechecks and medics, as they seem like mafia targets to me from the way mafia has been going.

Inactive != town

Seriously, everyone who keeps saying that people who are inactive are most likely town should be strung up. If everyone is inactive the mafia win the vast majority of games. If people follow the mindset that inactive = town, townies will always just string up other townies.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 11 2010 20:54 GMT
#1283
He voted for himself, he no longer wants to be in the game. If I were him I would at least have the decency to request being removed from the game. Mafia would try to "exist" as long as they could for their teammates if they had to be inactive. But hell maybe he doesnt give a flying shit about his mafia friends either. If you vote for him I'll follow without a second thought.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 11 2010 20:56 GMT
#1284
Requesting to remove yourself is the same deal as a strategic modkill, so not allowed.

If you don't want to play, you just ... stop playing. Then you're done after 2 days.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 11 2010 23:00 GMT
#1285
The problem with mafia game is inactivity. I don't think a mafia game with more than 2 modkill is a great game since you are just hoping that the inactive is not on your side. I believe we have 3 town and 1 mafia being modkill so that doesn't change the balance that much. But it still sucks that mod kills are doing half of the work. If you don't want to play mafia game, then don't sign up. If you want to quit, just man up of finish the current game.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 11 2010 23:33 GMT
#1286
Well, duh? It'd also be nice if at least 75% (hell, 100% if we're at it) of the players played better than they are too.

If you're not gonna play though, it's best for the town if you just stop and take your modkill (and best for the mafia if you just meet the minimum requirements to not get modkilled)
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 11 2010 23:48 GMT
#1287
Depends on the situation. If you're the last person standing between victory and death for the town, you'd better damn well keep playing (and at that point in the game, the lynch-inactives policy is generally tossed aside in favor of the lynch-scum policy), but at the beginning of the game, it's probably better to take the modkill rather than continue to be dead weight (and possibly soak up a lynch in the process).

The later the game goes, though, the worse modkills are for town (unless they're scum modkills of course). We aren't doing horribly right now, but we aren't doing great either, so I would advocate townies who don't want to play at least contributing the bare minimum. If nothing else, they're padding the number of town so that mafia has to spend that extra 2 or 3 KP to kill us (which gives us an extra day, which can mean a LOT).

Essentially, at this point, what I'm saying is that lynching inactives is no longer in our best interest, and we really have to start basing our lynch behavior off of one of the following things:

-Behavior in thread (if someone gets caught contradicting themselves, they are most likely scum, because townies have no reason to lie).
-Rolecheck results (although remember, millers do exist, so rolecheck only has a 66% chance of netting us a mafia).
-Clues (but be very very careful, because it's easy to overanalyze and find clues where there are none).
-Analysis of past posting habits (probably the safest way to catch mafia).

I believe this is the safest way for us to go forward from here.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 11 2010 23:50 GMT
#1288
-Rolecheck results (although remember, millers do exist, so rolecheck only has a 66% chance of netting us a mafia).

I'm really curious about where this 66% comes from in a semi-open game.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 12 2010 00:42 GMT
#1289
On June 12 2010 08:50 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
-Rolecheck results (although remember, millers do exist, so rolecheck only has a 66% chance of netting us a mafia).

I'm really curious about where this 66% comes from in a semi-open game.


My assumption that there are 2 millers in the game, as I said in an earlier post:

On June 11 2010 11:43 BrownBear wrote:

-insert long-ass player list here-

4 out of 19 isn't too bad, but we have to remember that there are still millers in the game - I would venture a guess that there are two, so there's a 1 in 3 chance that anyone who flips red to a rolecheck is a miller, just something to keep in mind.

Also, only 2 Mafia KP, awesome


I think it's a pretty safe assumption, given the number of people in the game, and the way past games of this size have been run, so unless proven wrong I'm going to continue to assume it. Of course, I could be completely and totally wrong.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 12 2010 00:49 GMT
#1290
There's also still 1 Godfather (so 3 mafia who show up red to rolechecks). Or maybe 2 mafia or 1 mafia who show up as red.

And I could see anywhere from 0 to 3 millers.
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Deucegladlier
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
June 12 2010 02:02 GMT
#1291
Woot, just saw a lot of people unvote for me. When do I get some popularity and some votes.
Babe Ruth is known as the homerun king, but he was also known as the strikeout king.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:06 GMT
#1292
On June 12 2010 11:02 Deucegladlier wrote:
Woot, just saw a lot of people unvote for me. When do I get some popularity and some votes.


...wtf?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 12 2010 02:06 GMT
#1293
I will have the post up in a few minutes.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 12 2010 02:18 GMT
#1294
On June 12 2010 11:02 Deucegladlier wrote:
Woot, just saw a lot of people unvote for me. When do I get some popularity and some votes.

I think someone hasn't read the rules of the game.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 12 2010 02:21 GMT
#1295
[image loading]
Day 4
The night was long for the pardoner yellowink and his companion laxercannon.
Together the men had the pictures of all the previous crimes laid out, and were scrutinizing them intensely. After hours of fruitless work, the two decided to adjourn for the night and pick up where they left off after.
They departed the town hall, and turned and walked separate ways.
Yellowink began to walk past the gallows when he heard a sound from behind him. Turning, he saw LaXercannon get attacked from behind. As yellowink began to move forward to help, he felt a sudden explosion of pain in his legs. Collapsing, he watched as a man stood over him, then dragged him up to the gallows. As the rope was placed around his neck, he watched as laxercannon bled out over the ground. The town then found Yellowink hanging from the gallows comes morning.

[No clues area]
Yellowink the pardoner and Laxercannon the bodyguard are dead.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:23 GMT
#1296
What? double nightkill on yellowink.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:24 GMT
#1297
.....what
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:25 GMT
#1298
LD, mafia kp is two. that's impossible. Yellowink should have been invulnerable.

is this even allowed to happen?

how did they know who the bodyguard was? ...everyone analyze littlechava asap plz.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 12 2010 02:26 GMT
#1299
Can't they stack two hits on the same person? One for the guard and one goes to yellowink.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 12 2010 02:28 GMT
#1300
On June 12 2010 11:26 LunarDestiny wrote:
Can't they stack two hits on the same person? One for the guard and one goes to yellowink.


it wouldn't transfer through a bodyguard... would it? how would flamewheel decide whether or not the hit went to me or yellow anyway?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
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