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your Country52798 Posts
On September 06 2013 08:15 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 08:12 The_Templar wrote:Winner's Match HuK spawns in the top left. Ryung spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Ryung getting a gas right after a barracks. HuK doing a gateway scout. HuK building one assimilator. 3:00 Ryung building a reaper. Ryung building a command center. HuK chronoboosting out a stalker. 4:00 Ryung harrassing HuK's zealot with the reaper. HuK expanding but loses the probe to the reaper. HuK putting on some gateway pressure which is delayed by the reaper. 5:00 Ryung taking a second gas. HuK's zealot gets into the main and gets a full scout. A reaper gets in the main but there are no units.
6:00  Ryung 41 vs  HuK 36
Ryung retreats his reaper.
HuK getting two more gateways and +1 armor.
Ryung getting stim and aiming to push with 10~ marines and a marauder.
7:00 Ryung 50 vs HuK 46
Ryung poks into the natural and retreats.
Ryung getting a starport.
HuK cancels an immortal and gets a twilight council and a warp prism.
8:00 Ryung 66 vs HuK 66
Ryung scouting with a factory.
HuK immediately moves out with a warp prism.
HuK getting an immortal.
9:00 Ryung 80 vs HuK 70
Ryung getting 2 medivacs.
Both players on two bases.
HuK attempts a warp prism harass while Ryung attempts a double drop, both are spotted.
10:00 Ryung 94 vs HuK 77
HuK building a templar archives and getting up to 7 gateways.
HuK getting charge.
Ryung getting combat shields and vikings.
HuK not building any colossi, but immortals.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 06 2013 08:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 08:13 stuchiu wrote:On September 06 2013 08:08 Larkin wrote:On September 06 2013 08:07 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 06 2013 08:04 Larkin wrote:
Why haven't Zergs started trying to go for other builds? lingblingmuta clearly is too weak against 4M and you can't transition off it.
ZvT needs some innovating! Not many other viable options have come to fruition, MC's description of the match up is pretty apt though it is zerg biased. He offs zerg on other servers sometimes. I feel like people are too eager to dismiss things as "not viable" when there just hasn't been enough time dedicated to making something viable. Stephano completely innovated the way ZvP went in WoL, I don't see why someone can't do it for ZvT. Well, let's see. Stephano tried Roach/hydra/viper for a long time, but that got beat. Slivko tried infestor/bl. That got roflstomped. Sanae/Zenio tried some swarmhost stuff, but zenio only ever got it done once and sanae never got it to work. Losira tried queen infestor ultra, got killed. Snute tried mass roach bane into later mutas. Taeja beat that. I guess all there is left to try is ling/hydra? But mass hellions beat that in WoL and that shouldn't change in HotS. Hmmmmm. Oh wait, what about ling/bane coruptor into infestor/bl! Oh wait Suppy tried that. Hmmmmmm
Ling/bane drops! Oh wait Fruitdealer got beaten for abusing that too much and Sheth only ever used it once against Polt. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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On September 06 2013 08:16 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 08:13 stuchiu wrote:On September 06 2013 08:08 Larkin wrote:On September 06 2013 08:07 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 06 2013 08:04 Larkin wrote:
Why haven't Zergs started trying to go for other builds? lingblingmuta clearly is too weak against 4M and you can't transition off it.
ZvT needs some innovating! Not many other viable options have come to fruition, MC's description of the match up is pretty apt though it is zerg biased. He offs zerg on other servers sometimes. I feel like people are too eager to dismiss things as "not viable" when there just hasn't been enough time dedicated to making something viable. Stephano completely innovated the way ZvP went in WoL, I don't see why someone can't do it for ZvT. Well, let's see. Stephano tried Roach/hydra/viper for a long time, but that got beat. Slivko tried infestor/bl. That got roflstomped. Sanae/Zenio tried some swarmhost stuff, but zenio only ever got it done once and sanae never got it to work. Losira tried queen infestor ultra, got killed. Snute tried mass roach bane into later mutas. Taeja beat that. I guess all there is left to try is ling/hydra? But mass hellions beat that in WoL and that shouldn't change in HotS. Hmmmmm. Oh wait, what about ling/bane coruptor into infestor/bl! Oh wait Suppy tried that. Hmmmmmm
Honestly I believe that terran can deal very efficiently with just about any possible early to midgame zerg unit composition. When it comes to lategame, zerg surely has strong compositions - but how to get there without being parade-pushed to death from 3 bases, that is the big question.. And ling bling muta seems to be the best way so far to try and get past that point.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Fuck it, Major was right. Just 6 pool them.
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Ryung gonna choochoo me feels.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
scv pull anti timing I think.
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Canada8160 Posts
Those 4 immortals are doing SO much damage
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your Country52798 Posts
On September 06 2013 08:19 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 08:15 The_Templar wrote:On September 06 2013 08:12 The_Templar wrote:Winner's Match HuK spawns in the top left. Ryung spawns in the bottom right. 2:00 Ryung getting a gas right after a barracks. HuK doing a gateway scout. HuK building one assimilator. 3:00 Ryung building a reaper. Ryung building a command center. HuK chronoboosting out a stalker. 4:00 Ryung harrassing HuK's zealot with the reaper. HuK expanding but loses the probe to the reaper. HuK putting on some gateway pressure which is delayed by the reaper. 5:00 Ryung taking a second gas. HuK's zealot gets into the main and gets a full scout. A reaper gets in the main but there are no units. 6:00 Ryung 41 vs HuK 36 Ryung retreats his reaper. HuK getting two more gateways and +1 armor. Ryung getting stim and aiming to push with 10~ marines and a marauder. 7:00 Ryung 50 vs HuK 46 Ryung poks into the natural and retreats. Ryung getting a starport. HuK cancels an immortal and gets a twilight council and a warp prism. 8:00 Ryung 66 vs HuK 66 Ryung scouting with a factory. HuK immediately moves out with a warp prism. HuK getting an immortal. 9:00 Ryung 80 vs HuK 70 Ryung getting 2 medivacs. Both players on two bases. HuK attempts a warp prism harass while Ryung attempts a double drop, both are spotted. 10:00 Ryung 94 vs HuK 77 HuK building a templar archives and getting up to 7 gateways. HuK getting charge. Ryung getting combat shields and vikings. HuK not building any colossi, but immortals.
11:00 Ryung 109 vs HuK 96
HuK getting +1 attack.
Both players still on two bases.
Ryung scouts a lack of a third with a marine.
12:00 Ryung 117 vs HuK 111
Ryung moving out.
HuK starts storm and is getting a third base.
Ryung has only 2 vikings, else, MMM.
13:00 Ryung 130 vs HuK 131
Ryung building a third command center.
Ryung pulling about 25 SCVs but isn't cancelling his third base.
Ryung has ghosts which get feed backed.
Photon overcharge at the natural and a time warp allows for zealots to do damage.
14:00 Ryung 102 vs HuK 122
HuK warping in zealots in Ryung's main.
Ryung retreated but is attacking again, but HuK has 4 immortals.
HuK still doing damage in Ryung's main and kills off Ryung's attacking forces.
Ryung GG's.
HuK takes a 1-0 lead.
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Why would Ryung start a 3rd CC right before he goes allin?
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gg from HuK there... nice hold ^^
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Not sure why Ryung did a 3rd CC so late when he pulled scv. Just doesn't make sense. Better make more units.
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On September 06 2013 08:19 stuchiu wrote:
Fuck it, Major was right. Just 6 pool them.
ActionJesuz makes his first trip to the GSL.
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your Country52798 Posts
Poll: Recommend Winner's match Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3) 43% ★★★- Good game (2) 29% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (1) 14% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1) 14% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's match Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
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just a few seconds to late to pull the scvs, good hold by huk
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Missed the choo choo timing.
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Good hold by HuK. But very strange play from Ryung.
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