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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 18 2013 23:46 GMT
#101
On July 19 2013 08:44 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
fuck the worst thing about WCS AM is we always play the same 3 maps

Fun fact: WCS EU had more map diversity in Group A of the Ro32 than WCS AM in the entire Ro32 so far.


How is that WCS AM fault? isn't the players the ones who veto and pick maps?
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 23:47:27
July 18 2013 23:46 GMT
#102
On July 19 2013 06:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 06:36 Caladan wrote:
Oh wow. Today 4 Koreans in WCS America! :/ WCS really have to change their format!
But oh well, at least I have violet to cheer.
Gogo violet!

3 koreans and a Chinese player


viOLet is American.

Freedom.viOLet.US
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 18 2013 23:50 GMT
#103
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 18 2013 23:51 GMT
#104
On July 19 2013 08:46 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:44 StarVe wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
fuck the worst thing about WCS AM is we always play the same 3 maps

Fun fact: WCS EU had more map diversity in Group A of the Ro32 than WCS AM in the entire Ro32 so far.


How is that WCS AM fault? isn't the players the ones who veto and pick maps?

For reference:

WCS AM Map Pool
Bel'Shir Vestige • Derelict Watcher • Neo Planet S • Newkirk Precinct TE • Red City • Akilon Wastes • Korhal Sky Island

WCS EU Map Pool
Bel'Shir Vestige • Derelict Watcher • Neo Planet S • Newkirk Precinct TE • Red City • Star Station • Whirlwind
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 18 2013 23:52 GMT
#105
wait, each player gets 2 veto's? why is it always the same 3
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
July 18 2013 23:53 GMT
#106
Players don't want to play on Red City. :/
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 00:02:14
July 18 2013 23:54 GMT
#107
On July 19 2013 08:46 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:44 StarVe wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
fuck the worst thing about WCS AM is we always play the same 3 maps

Fun fact: WCS EU had more map diversity in Group A of the Ro32 than WCS AM in the entire Ro32 so far.


How is that WCS AM fault? isn't the players the ones who veto and pick maps?

I don't say it's their fault. It's a fun fact. It does kinda get very stale though when you always play the same fucking maps, but of course the players choose, yes.

There have been two series in the entire Ro32 where Bel'shir Vestige wasn't used, even in the 2-0s it always showed up.
An example:

In Group B in WCS EU in consecutive series:
Stephano vs sLivko
Star Station, Derelict Watcher, Bel'Shir Vestige
Shuttle vs MC
Red City, Whirlwind, Neo Planet S.

NA Group A maps in consecutive series:
Ryung vs MajOr
Bel'Shir Vestige, Neo Planet S

NesTea vs Jim
Bel'Shir Vestige, Neo Planet S

MajOr vs Jim
Neo Planet S, Bel'Shir Vestige
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 18 2013 23:54 GMT
#108
On July 19 2013 08:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
DRONES
queens

4:00
double gas for Revival

5:00
double gas for viOLet
Roach warren for Revival
3rd gas for Revival
queens of viOLet kill and overlord of Revival
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 18 2013 23:58 GMT
#109
On July 19 2013 08:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
DRONES
queens

4:00
double gas for Revival

5:00
double gas for viOLet
Roach warren for Revival
3rd gas for Revival
queens of viOLet kill and overlord of Revival

6:00
Lair for viOLet
evo for Revival
Roach warren for viOLet
evo for viOLet
Lair for Revival
+1 range attack started for Revival

7:00 R 53 vs V 54
3rd base for Revival
+1 range attack started for viOLet
roaches for both players
Roach speed for viOLet
3rd base for viOLet
Roach speed for Revival

8:00 R 69 vs V 71
more roaches for both players

9:00 R 99 vs V 91
more roaches
+2 range attack for Revival
Revival sending his roaches towards the 3rd of viOLet
Revival sees viOLet's roaches waiting so he backs off

10:00 R 123 vs V 129
contaminate on the natural and 3rd hatches of Revival
viOLet moving across the map for an attack
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Revival
Revival has a defensive concave set up
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:01 GMT
#110
On July 19 2013 08:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
DRONES
queens

4:00
double gas for Revival

5:00
double gas for viOLet
Roach warren for Revival
3rd gas for Revival
queens of viOLet kill and overlord of Revival

6:00
Lair for viOLet
evo for Revival
Roach warren for viOLet
evo for viOLet
Lair for Revival
+1 range attack started for Revival

7:00 R 53 vs V 54
3rd base for Revival
+1 range attack started for viOLet
roaches for both players
Roach speed for viOLet
3rd base for viOLet
Roach speed for Revival

8:00 R 69 vs V 71
more roaches for both players

9:00 R 99 vs V 91
more roaches
+2 range attack for Revival
Revival sending his roaches towards the 3rd of viOLet
Revival sees viOLet's roaches waiting so he backs off

10:00 R 123 vs V 129
contaminate on the natural and 3rd hatches of Revival
viOLet moving across the map for an attack
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Revival
Revival has a defensive concave set up

11:00 R 115 vs V 102
Revival and able to push back the attack
+2 range attack on the way for viOLet
2 spines started at the 3rd of viOLet

12:00 R 142 vs V 134
+1 carapace for Revival
Hydralisk den for Revival
Revival is ahead by 8 workers
Hydra range for Revival
Hydras started for Revival

14:00 R 184 vs V 172
contaminate on the evo for Revival
their creeps are touching
viOLet moving in for an attack and bringing 2 spines to root
viOLet's army is surrounded by roaches and a few hydras

15:00 R 143 vs V 144
viOLet is rallying in more roaches
supplies are staying relatively equal
Revival is finally able to push viOLet back
4th base for Revival
Hydralisk den for viOLet
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
July 19 2013 00:04 GMT
#111
Suddenly it's lagging a lot?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:05 GMT
#112
On July 19 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
DRONES
queens

4:00
double gas for Revival

5:00
double gas for viOLet
Roach warren for Revival
3rd gas for Revival
queens of viOLet kill and overlord of Revival

6:00
Lair for viOLet
evo for Revival
Roach warren for viOLet
evo for viOLet
Lair for Revival
+1 range attack started for Revival

7:00 R 53 vs V 54
3rd base for Revival
+1 range attack started for viOLet
roaches for both players
Roach speed for viOLet
3rd base for viOLet
Roach speed for Revival

8:00 R 69 vs V 71
more roaches for both players

9:00 R 99 vs V 91
more roaches
+2 range attack for Revival
Revival sending his roaches towards the 3rd of viOLet
Revival sees viOLet's roaches waiting so he backs off

10:00 R 123 vs V 129
contaminate on the natural and 3rd hatches of Revival
viOLet moving across the map for an attack
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Revival
Revival has a defensive concave set up

11:00 R 115 vs V 102
Revival and able to push back the attack
+2 range attack on the way for viOLet
2 spines started at the 3rd of viOLet

12:00 R 142 vs V 134
+1 carapace for Revival
Hydralisk den for Revival
Revival is ahead by 8 workers
Hydra range for Revival
Hydras started for Revival

14:00 R 184 vs V 172
contaminate on the evo for Revival
their creeps are touching
viOLet moving in for an attack and bringing 2 spines to root
viOLet's army is surrounded by roaches and a few hydras

15:00 R 143 vs V 144
viOLet is rallying in more roaches
supplies are staying relatively equal
Revival is finally able to push viOLet back
4th base for Revival
Hydralisk den for viOLet

16:00 R 153 vs V 129
+2 carapace for Revival
Hydra range for viOLet
Hydras started for viOLet

17:00 R 171 vs V 158
4th base for viOLet
Revival is maxed and starting to add on spines

18:00 R 199 vs V 191
Revival moving across the map now
Revival attacking at the 3rd of viOLet
Revival backs off
runby at the 4th of Revival
engagement again outside the 3rd of viOLet

19:00 R 148 vs V 141
viOLet is able to take the fight near his 3rd
both players rebuilding their roach hydra army
+2 carapace finishes for Revival

20:00 R 149 vs V 155
Revival moving his army through the middle of the map
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:06 GMT
#113
On July 19 2013 09:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 19 2013 08:50 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
pool first for both players
hatch for both players

3:00
DRONES
queens

4:00
double gas for Revival

5:00
double gas for viOLet
Roach warren for Revival
3rd gas for Revival
queens of viOLet kill and overlord of Revival

6:00
Lair for viOLet
evo for Revival
Roach warren for viOLet
evo for viOLet
Lair for Revival
+1 range attack started for Revival

7:00 R 53 vs V 54
3rd base for Revival
+1 range attack started for viOLet
roaches for both players
Roach speed for viOLet
3rd base for viOLet
Roach speed for Revival

8:00 R 69 vs V 71
more roaches for both players

9:00 R 99 vs V 91
more roaches
+2 range attack for Revival
Revival sending his roaches towards the 3rd of viOLet
Revival sees viOLet's roaches waiting so he backs off

10:00 R 123 vs V 129
contaminate on the natural and 3rd hatches of Revival
viOLet moving across the map for an attack
roaches engage outside the 3rd of Revival
Revival has a defensive concave set up

11:00 R 115 vs V 102
Revival and able to push back the attack
+2 range attack on the way for viOLet
2 spines started at the 3rd of viOLet

12:00 R 142 vs V 134
+1 carapace for Revival
Hydralisk den for Revival
Revival is ahead by 8 workers
Hydra range for Revival
Hydras started for Revival

14:00 R 184 vs V 172
contaminate on the evo for Revival
their creeps are touching
viOLet moving in for an attack and bringing 2 spines to root
viOLet's army is surrounded by roaches and a few hydras

15:00 R 143 vs V 144
viOLet is rallying in more roaches
supplies are staying relatively equal
Revival is finally able to push viOLet back
4th base for Revival
Hydralisk den for viOLet

16:00 R 153 vs V 129
+2 carapace for Revival
Hydra range for viOLet
Hydras started for viOLet

17:00 R 171 vs V 158
4th base for viOLet
Revival is maxed and starting to add on spines

18:00 R 199 vs V 191
Revival moving across the map now
Revival attacking at the 3rd of viOLet
Revival backs off
runby at the 4th of Revival
engagement again outside the 3rd of viOLet

19:00 R 148 vs V 141
viOLet is able to take the fight near his 3rd
both players rebuilding their roach hydra army
+2 carapace finishes for Revival

20:00 R 149 vs V 155
Revival moving his army through the middle of the map

21:00 R 180 vs V 177
engagement on the lower lane of the map
Revival's units are just too strong with their upgrade advantage and viOLet is pushed back to his natural

22:00 R 134 vs V 105
Revival rallying in more roaches while viOLet scrambling to get units out
viOLet has to gg!
Revival ties it up 1-1!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:06 GMT
#114
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?

No (1)
 
50%

If you have time (1)
 
50%

Yes (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 19 2013 00:09 GMT
#115
On July 19 2013 08:53 Aeromi wrote:
Players don't want to play on Red City. :/


Can you blame them? This is WCS AMERICA, and Red City clearly represents the Kremlin, the heart of Communism. No one wants to be a communist
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#116
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 3
Map: Derelict Watcher

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:13 GMT
#117
On July 19 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 3
Map: Derelict Watcher

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
hatch first for both players
pool for both players
gas for Revival

3:00
drones

4:00
Roach warren for Revival
double gas for viOLet

5:00
ling scout of viOLet is denied
Roaches started for Revival (11)
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
July 19 2013 00:14 GMT
#118
People also aren't using Korhal Sky Island.
I guess that one isn't as surprising.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 00:15:46
July 19 2013 00:14 GMT
#119
On July 19 2013 09:09 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 08:53 Aeromi wrote:
Players don't want to play on Red City. :/


Can you blame them? This is WCS AMERICA, and Red City clearly represents the Kremlin, the heart of Communism. No one wants to be a communist


Unfortunately I don't see lot of American player in WCS NA. :/
And Chinese players don't want to play on Red City too.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 19 2013 00:16 GMT
#120
On July 19 2013 09:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group E Premier Season 2 2013
[image loading] (Z)Revival vs. [image loading] (Z)viOLet
Game 3
Map: Derelict Watcher

0:00
Revival spawns in the top right
viOLet spawns in the bottom left

2:00
hatch first for both players
pool for both players
gas for Revival

3:00
drones

4:00
Roach warren for Revival
double gas for viOLet

5:00
ling scout of viOLet is denied
Roaches started for Revival (11)

6:00
Lair for viOLet
roaches spotted
4 spines started for viOLet
Roach warren for viOLet

7:00 R 61 vs V 54
Roaches start attacking intot he natural of viOLet
rdrones are pulled
Roaches trying to runby the spines
viOLet has to reposition his spines
the roaches of Revival are forced back
Lair for Revival is half done
viOLet had t cancel his lair and is restarting it now
9 drones were killed

8:00 R 61 vs V 47
+1 range attack for Revival
3rd base for Revival
Revival is 10 drones ahead
+1 range attack for viOLet
Roach speed for Revival
3rd base for viOLet

9:00 R 75 vs V 60
Roach speed for viOLet
2nd evo for viOLet

10:00 R 103 vs V 77
Revival starting to send more roaches across the map now
viOLet repositions his spines between his natural and 3rd
Revival turns his roaches around
+1 carapace for viOLet
Hydra den for viOLet
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