EPTI can't wait to abuse the crap out of this.
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LoneWolf.Alpha-
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I can't wait to abuse the crap out of this. | ||
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Mortal
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LoneWolf.Alpha-
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 16 2011 06:49 treekiller wrote: Find out what state you live in? We Americans might be stupid, but were no that stupid. Seriously. They use that as the first step to illustrate how easy it is to do, not to call americans stupid. | ||
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treekiller
United States236 Posts
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:SN00968:@@@D&summ2=m& | ||
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
On November 16 2011 06:49 treekiller wrote: Find out what state you live in? We Americans might be stupid, but were no that stupid. Seriously. Just a joke, no need to read into it like that. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:30 ArcticRaven wrote: Wow, now that's scary. If a non-US citizen can help in any way..... I'll be glad. find your american friends, shout at them until they do something | ||
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driftme
United States360 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:22 Omnipresent wrote: Does anyone know where I can find a calm, rational, and well sourced article about this? I'm completely willing to believe that it's 100% terrible and only the result of evil corporations trying to control us and our government, but I'd like to hear it from a more thorough source. here's the actual bill: http://leahy.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BillText-PROTECTIPAct.pdf and some good articles/sites: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110712/12371715059/rep-anna-eshoo-silicon-valley-thinks-protect-ip-is-about-immigration.shtml http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/protectip_docs http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2011/1115_cybersecurity_friedman.aspx http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110510/13285714230/son-coica-protect-ip-act-will-allow-broad-censorship-powers-including-copyright-holders.shtml http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67985.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2011/11/11/the-case-for-the-protect-ip-act-and-dns-filtering/ those have some great explanations and viewpoints from relevant people. if i remember correctly, the last article is written by a proponent. good to have other viewpoints too, even if theyre wrong =] EDIT: OH! I forgot the three most important things... this is a series about these new legislations (sopa included) everyone who wants to learn more should read these: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/disastrous-ip-legislation-back-–-and-it’s-worse-ever https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/sopa-hollywood-finally-gets-chance-break-internet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/hollywood-new-war-on-software-freedom-and-internet-innovation EDIT 2: Here's another link to an interesting read about another legislation/enforcement debacle.. its still going on and will only get worse with PIPA and SOPA https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca | ||
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driftme
United States360 Posts
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RoKetha
United States211 Posts
It is literally impossible to prevent third-party copyright violations without using a whitelist model. It's just a matter of sheer scale. That alone would effectively end the era of user-generated content on the internet, and probably cause billions in economic damage as a result. Heck, considering the history of Google, Facebook, Zynga, and others, it could very well be trillions in lost opportunities. Then there's the fact that accusations don't even need review to result in total site shutdown. The DMCA was already bad about this, since little sites could be targeted by random individuals or companies and forced to pull content simply because they couldn't afford to go to court. But at least the DMCA just resulted in the removal of that work and allowed time for a response. With this bill, it's five days (which is absolutely absurd by any stretch and cannot even be argued as ignorant; it's downright malicious and unconstitutional) before you lose all sources of income and funding for your site. Which may be your business. Without review. And there's nothing stopping someone from filing against you just because they feel like it if they can claim they had reason to believe you might be violating copyright somewhere. It's said that you should never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by ignorance. But there is no possible way that these points have not been raised. This is a purely malicious buyout of our rights and tech economy by old rich men. | ||
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bobobobojos
United States59 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:37 driftme wrote: here's the actual bill: http://leahy.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/BillText-PROTECTIPAct.pdf and some good articles/sites: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110712/12371715059/rep-anna-eshoo-silicon-valley-thinks-protect-ip-is-about-immigration.shtml http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/protectip_docs http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2011/1115_cybersecurity_friedman.aspx http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110510/13285714230/son-coica-protect-ip-act-will-allow-broad-censorship-powers-including-copyright-holders.shtml http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67985.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2011/11/11/the-case-for-the-protect-ip-act-and-dns-filtering/ those have some great explanations and viewpoints from relevant people. if i remember correctly, the last article is written by a proponent. good to have other viewpoints too, even if theyre wrong =] EDIT: OH! I forgot the three most important things... this is a series about these new legislations (sopa included) everyone who wants to learn more should read these: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/disastrous-ip-legislation-back-–-and-it’s-worse-ever https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/sopa-hollywood-finally-gets-chance-break-internet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/hollywood-new-war-on-software-freedom-and-internet-innovation EDIT 2: Here's another link to an interesting read about another legislation/enforcement debacle.. its still going on and will only get worse with PIPA and SOPA https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca Thank you. I found the techdirt articles really helpful, especially this one, which is linked in the first article your posted. It contains a copy of a letter from a group of law professors about this. It looks like this has all the problems of the DMCA with even fewer protections, a wider reach (implicating companies and removing most if not all safe harbor protections), more severe penalties, and a weaker appeal process. It sounds like a nightmare to me. And honestly, the guy in the Forbes article didn't even sound that wrong. This just isn't the right approach. It's mostly the prior restraint issues, striking lack of due process, and general heavy-handedness of the whole thing that bother me. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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Australia87 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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