EPTOn June 21 2010 11:04 Subversion wrote:
I missed this one, but just for future, do I signup through PM'ing Bill Murray?
I missed this one, but just for future, do I signup through PM'ing Bill Murray?
no, just post in the thread
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Mafia - Page 6
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
no, just post in the thread | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
If only we had 25 players, then mass name claiming would own. Maybe we still should unless mafia were given a safe name to name claim as. Given the setup, I'm not going to be running for mayor. Never have been confident in my ability to lead. New players should not be running unless they know they are qualified to run. YellowInk, I nominate you since you were theorycrafting ways to break the game, I bet you have a great idea that helps the town. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Some thoughts on the setup. 15 v 5 with a traitor (so 14 town vs 6 scum) or 16 v 4 with a traitor (so 15 town vs 5 scum) Not sure which is more likely, I assume the second since it seems like 15v5 is pretty standard balance wise. But given that this is a theme game(and with a magical theme), and that most players probably have an ability of some sort, I wouldn't be too surprised if its 5 mafia plus a traitor. Although, that wouldn't give us many mislynchs/mishits to work with. Presumably there is a godfather in this game, since we have mayor/pardoner roles, and they can be alignment checked(or at least I assume so). Without a GF the mafia wouldn't bother running since the mayor/pardoner is very likely to be checked in the early game. If mafia does have a GF, it is undoubtedly Voldemort, and he likely can kill people(possibly a comp vig). Which means, if we have a tracker role, people running for mayor is a good place to track. Of course, the mafia could just as easily stay away from the vote altogether, but that's great for the town anyways. The mafia can likely use the imperious curse. Which means, if your action obviously goes astray, and you know you've been imperioused then you need to let everyone know so that we have a better idea of what assets the mafia have. If you have a very strong role (compulsive vigilante or something) and have been compromised, you probably need to take one for the team and get killed somehow. However, I doubt we have any roles that are quite that powerful. Thoughts? Corrections? Additions? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
1) I mean to say that if we get 20 people as opposed to 25 I will make it 16 vs 4 On June 21 2010 11:21 johnnyspazz wrote: OMG GAME STARTED! If only we had 25 players, then mass name claiming would own. Maybe we still should unless mafia were given a safe name to name claim as. Given the setup, I'm not going to be running for mayor. Never have been confident in my ability to lead. New players should not be running unless they know they are qualified to run. YellowInk, I nominate you since you were theorycrafting ways to break the game, I bet you have a great idea that helps the town. I think BM was pretty adamant about people not name claiming. However, given that we didn't get a full slate of 25, it could be more lenient than it was before: I will not be accepting name claims to occur in this game unless I am sure it will be balanced or your role PM specifically states otherwise. Jspazz, reading your post gives me an idea. Perhaps we should have people only allowed to run if they are nominated by another player. This means that the mafia GF will not be able to run for mayor unless another player nominates him. Most players will not be nominated, which means another mafia will have to nominate them if they really want the position. That could very likely give us a direct link from a mafia to a GF or vise versa. It might also discourage the mafia from running. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On June 21 2010 05:13 Bill Murray wrote: I am just differentiating slang cursing and actual cursing. I will allow racial slurs but not the use of direct curses like "fuck you"; however, avada kedavra's are ok. but if we're good guys we can't say avada kedavra!  | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
@ Radfield: here's a post from BM at the end of the last page, seems you missed it. On June 21 2010 07:44 Bill Murray wrote: To clear up some things: i'll make a thread for mayoral voting you may nameclaim or roleclaim just don't claim masons or I will modkill you keep it clean, please So mass role claiming IS an option. Mass role claiming has the advantage of forcing mafia to come up with fake names/roles, and in the event of a name clash we clearly will end up with knowing 1 of 2 people are mafia. However, we have no idea whether mafia have been provided a safe list of town names to prevent this sort of this from happening. Even if they were not provided a list, there are plenty of characters in HP to choose from and it seems likely they could get away with it. Another potential advantage is allowing the town to coordinate night actions together and possibly verify that people are doing what they are supposed to be doing through tracker type roles. However, since this is a special game I wouldn't be surprised if there are more town aligned special roles than normal. It would get confusing coordinating 8 town blues, and worse, we'd have no easy way to judge whether there are mafia mixed in the blues. Given that the potential advantages don't look great in this particular set up, and the clusterfuck that the last game was when we roleclaimed, and the fact that the town won so easily partly due to 2 lucky events (L acted stupidly enough to get shot by citizen, ~Opz~ was modkilled) I would argue vehemently against a mass role claim. | ||
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LaXerCannon
Canada558 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 21 2010 12:01 Radfield wrote: You kinda can if you're Molly Weasley... although it's a bit vague. I like to think she uses the killing curse at the end of Book 7. NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH! | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On June 21 2010 07:44 Bill Murray wrote: To clear up some things: i'll make a thread for mayoral voting you may nameclaim or roleclaim just don't claim masons or I will modkill you keep it clean, please Also, it would be great to track and watch the mayor but Tracker and Watcher aren't listed as possible roles so I doubt they are in this game. | ||
~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
this is your first warning stormtemplar | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On June 21 2010 15:00 stormtemplar wrote: Well this is my first mafia so I am uber exited. So I guess this is the part where we kinda sit around and wait for the mafia/death eaters to kill someone. I have no opinion on the name claim thing, as I'm kinda not sure. no, we make the first move by voting for a mayor. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On June 21 2010 14:16 ~OpZ~ wrote: Alright...I would like to announce that I am pro-town and in disagreement with name claiming or role claiming just yet. Name claiming may allow the mafia to realize (if) who the hidden horcrux is...so we have got to have more discussion before any claiming... I agree. For now we should worry about the election and try to find a strategy that doesn't out the entire town. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
If you're new and you don't know a lot about the people playing then I wouldn't nominate someone. Only nominate someone if you know that they would do a good job. From there we can start to generate a list of players who are aligned, trust me this doesn't guarantee you are a death eater, but it's a start in the right direction to make sure we can minimize losses of good townies early. Also mayoral candidates should consider a working list of people they think they should lynch, but don't post who you would lynch immediately. The best system is to get a majority on who the town would like to lynch, since Day 1 lynches are typically pretty random we should just make sure it's a choice the whole town is behind. | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
 I am going to read extenzevely the rules (it seems quite differetn from previous mafia game) Which is the role of a mayor? | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 21 2010 19:48 Amber[LighT] wrote: Also mayoral candidates should consider a working list of people they think they should lynch, but don't post who you would lynch immediately. The best system is to get a majority on who the town would like to lynch, since Day 1 lynches are typically pretty random we should just make sure it's a choice the whole town is behind. The question always seems to be, lynch someone who is inactive, or someone who is mildly scummy. Given the likelihood that we have a fair number of townies with some sort of special power, lynching an active player doesn't seem like a great idea. However, we have two days until we(the mayor) need to make a decision, and hopefully we'll have a good amount of discussion on all topics by the end, so it should be easy to pick out the contributors from the non-contributors. | ||
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ElyAs
France205 Posts
I like the "sponsoring a mayor" idea, but we need to have more than one candidate. (and it's likely that the death-eaters are going to sponsor one of them...) I'm not going to sponsor anyone, it's only my second game so I don't really know the playstyle of everyone. As always, we really want everyone to be active. We don't want any of these Death-eaters hiding in the dark... | ||
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