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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#1121
Oh Eran flipped green? Who would have thought that.
Now that I'm shoving your dead head in your faces, are you finally willing to lynch scum in WBG?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 11:06 GMT
#1122
On August 08 2012 18:00 strongandbig wrote:
oops lol no idea why that last picture is in there twice.

Anyway we have the newest episode of the classic beloved sitcom, The Masons

VisceraEyes
Erandorr
Toadesstern
JingleHell
Grush
Hassybaby

I now think it's extremely likely that two scum are in this group and that they're between Toad, VE and Hassybaby - those three are the people who would conceivably be given the role by the scum team.

Hassybaby hasn't voted and there already was a warning so IMO he deserves to be modkilled, especially if he's scum since we have already had a townie get modkilled.

So to sum up: I think we should lynch VE.


That's the full version. You're welcome.

Actually the green tag on jinglehell is a complete out of nowhere guess but I highly doubt mafia would give a mason role to someone like him unless he's a smurf lol.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 11:26 GMT
#1123
EBWOP
On August 08 2012 19:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh Eran flipped green? Who would have thought that.
Now that I'm shoving his dead head in your faces, are you finally willing to lynch scum WBG?


back in an hour :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 08 2012 12:02 GMT
#1124
Actually my dear toad, I think we should be lynching you tomorrow. More on that later though.
ATOBTTR
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 12:05 GMT
#1125
On August 08 2012 21:02 s0Lstice wrote:
Actually my dear toad, I think we should be lynching you tomorrow. More on that later though.

Yeah because everyone who flipped so far said I'm probably town.
And everyone who flipped so far said that bugs is mafia.

SAFE BUGS AND LYNCH TOAD.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 08 2012 13:40 GMT
#1126
On August 08 2012 17:49 Lazermonkey wrote:
Just woke up. This sucked -.-.

Just a quick thought for now, wouldn't it be good to vigi kill Glasse, Zentor or Dropula? Assuming there are vigis left. These guys are obviously in no danger of getting modkilled but on the other hand they play bad all of them. And even though that might not necesarily mean that they are scum because they play bad both as scum and as town, we will need to kill them sooner or later if they are scum. And it doesn't seem like we are going to get any wiser the longer the game goes on if they are playing like this.


The puppeteer

Is delighted
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 22:59:38
August 08 2012 14:50 GMT
#1127
@Lazer Don't vig bad townies. Dumb at this point. Vig people you think are scum.

VE contacted me after the lynch.



Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Nah thanks though.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From talismania:
heh ok. Any questions for me, since you think I'm scum again?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
For the record, you had me fooled. Thankfully, you weren't able to get me lynched so I can make up for my folly tonight.

Don't even TRY to shoot me, medics will be all over my shit after this night.

You're done sir. DONE.

Original Message From talismania:
what time zone are you in ? I'm actually about to go to sleep. but chat tomorrow perhaps?

lemme know your answer to how your thoughts on zeph have gone this game.

also curious to know what you make of hassy.

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Give me a little bit to get home. My Skype name is REDACTED

Original Message From talismania:
Yeah you mentioned zephirdd earlier in the thread, when you voted for him "yeah I can lynch zephirdd" or something like that. How has your thinking on him evolved over the course of the game?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
That's the theory, yes. Obviously that's speculation and in no way provable...but he had to know Bugs would out him, and the way he reacted to it didn't seem in line with that knowledge.

Here's the thing about this tone...faking nerdrage is one of the easiest things in the world. Honestly if I were scum that's probably how I would have reacted to your case on me - however, I'm not even sure I think that's what's going on with Errand. I think Errand is GENUINELY upset by Bugs' repeated insults. But the problem with that is that he's using the insults as the SOLE DETERMINING FACTOR in determining Bugs' alignment - and he refers BACK to the insults in trying to sway votes TOWARD Bugs. THIS is what I have an issue with. The way he's using the whole escapade to try and swing a Bugs lynch based on BS.

And as you say, he has done fuck all besides...so it's hard to determine his alignment OUTSIDE of the whole thing.

As far as my further scumreads go, I'm looking into Bugs' latest target (Xter or whatever) and Zephirdd myself, but I think consensus is going to favor lynching into the masons unfortunately (-.-) so it's really for posterity in case you get your way. I'll let you know what I find.

Original Message From talismania:
ok we can keep going by pms for now.

On eran - I still lean town on him. The major point with him is reconciling his personality with his alignment. he seems genuinely like a typical aggressive nerd. abit too prideful and prickly when it comes to people challening their opinions. I don't think he's making that up. The small posts in his filter read town to me - where he asks people questions and then follows up on them, for instance. His fight with wbg in chat was not very productive and certainly not how I would have done things but neither of them seemed to be in the mood for just hashing things out. I will say that he hasn't done much since the wbg issue has died down.

your feelings about erandorr stem from his masoning of bugs, yes? you think he did that knowing he would be outed, knowing he could get on wbg's nerves and hopefully force a lynch?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I have more time at work, but I can make time at home too. I'll pencil you in.

TL PMs are fine for me either way - that's all I used to communicate with Bugs (he keeps really odd hours -.-) so that's pretty much what I'm used to at this point.

Original Message From talismania:
I don't have an irc client on this computer though I suppose I can get one (I'm also at work). will you be free when you're at home or do you have more time for this stuff at work?

[quote]


Dunno entirely what to make of that. My gut reaction is that he was just gloating at surviving. I also find it an incredibly weird thing to say to someone you think is scum if you are town. Like, I would just keep up the charade of saying I found the scum suspect townie while pumping him for information. VE however doesn't even care to ask me any questions at all even when I give him the opportunity.

Also VE, you still owe us your thoguhts on zephirdd, for like the 100th time.

And hopeless1der it will be morning for you soon so please give us those thoughts!
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2012 15:32 GMT
#1128
actually come to think of it "medics will be all over my shit after this night" makes me wonder if he's going NK me and claim vig.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 15:32 GMT
#1129
I'm back and if s&b or I myself don't end up being protected tonight I'm going to be really mad.
VE might be worthy of a protection as well but than again I guess mafia won't shoot him, because the plan has to be to either bus WBG tomorrow or try to get people on VE and thus safe WBG from lynch a third time in a row.

If VE flips green because mafia shot him there will be (rightfully) no stopping a WBG-lynch anymore, which is the reason I don't think he'll get shot but who knows.
If I flip green people might still consider lynching into VE instead of WBG for some horsecrap reasons.

So please don't let that happen, thx.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
August 08 2012 16:23 GMT
#1130
On August 08 2012 16:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
wait a minute.

BKE VOTED Erandorr. Man you're full of shit, attacking VE for voting Erandorr for that reason when you sheeped him

A townies gotta have the right info otherwise the whole town is fucked. Towns advantage is they can make consensus and informed desicions, its our job to find the scum leading us off track and look for people who have gone off track. I dont get you you keep saying you wont play the game but your still making accusations (small if that).
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 08 2012 16:32 GMT
#1131
On August 09 2012 01:23 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 16:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
wait a minute.

BKE VOTED Erandorr. Man you're full of shit, attacking VE for voting Erandorr for that reason when you sheeped him

A townies gotta have the right info otherwise the whole town is fucked. Towns advantage is they can make consensus and informed desicions, its our job to find the scum leading us off track and look for people who have gone off track. I dont get you you keep saying you wont play the game but your still making accusations (small if that).


Townies need that info BEFORE they make decisions not after they already made them. And just because bugs is not as active as everyone would like him to be doesn't diminish the fact that what you posted makes you look bad.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 08 2012 16:51 GMT
#1132
@Lazer Don't vig bad townies. Dumb at this point. Vig people you think are scum.


Don't confuse stupid town giving bad advice with scum trying to misguide our vigilante(s).
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1133
On August 09 2012 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 01:23 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On August 08 2012 16:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
wait a minute.

BKE VOTED Erandorr. Man you're full of shit, attacking VE for voting Erandorr for that reason when you sheeped him

A townies gotta have the right info otherwise the whole town is fucked. Towns advantage is they can make consensus and informed desicions, its our job to find the scum leading us off track and look for people who have gone off track. I dont get you you keep saying you wont play the game but your still making accusations (small if that).


Townies need that info BEFORE they make decisions not after they already made them. And just because bugs is not as active as everyone would like him to be doesn't diminish the fact that what you posted makes you look bad.


You're here! Summary of your thoughts following your read-through and nocturnal digestion thereof?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 08 2012 17:04 GMT
#1134
Yeah I'm around. Are we actually going to try to continue discussing cases before nk's? The thread is more dead than usual right now, everyone seems eager to hold onto their reads until close to deadline or just after.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2012 17:06 GMT
#1135
The NKs aren't going to be affected by discussion much. It'll be either me, snb, solstice, maybe toad.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 23:00:31
August 08 2012 17:08 GMT
#1136
On August 08 2012 23:50 talismania wrote:
@Lazer Don't vig bad townies. Dumb at this point. Vig people you think are scum.

VE contacted me after the lynch.



Show nested quote +
Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Nah thanks though.

Original Message From talismania:
heh ok. Any questions for me, since you think I'm scum again?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
For the record, you had me fooled. Thankfully, you weren't able to get me lynched so I can make up for my folly tonight.

Don't even TRY to shoot me, medics will be all over my shit after this night.

You're done sir. DONE.

Original Message From talismania:
what time zone are you in ? I'm actually about to go to sleep. but chat tomorrow perhaps?

lemme know your answer to how your thoughts on zeph have gone this game.

also curious to know what you make of hassy.

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
Give me a little bit to get home. My Skype name is REDACTED

Original Message From talismania:
Yeah you mentioned zephirdd earlier in the thread, when you voted for him "yeah I can lynch zephirdd" or something like that. How has your thinking on him evolved over the course of the game?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
That's the theory, yes. Obviously that's speculation and in no way provable...but he had to know Bugs would out him, and the way he reacted to it didn't seem in line with that knowledge.

Here's the thing about this tone...faking nerdrage is one of the easiest things in the world. Honestly if I were scum that's probably how I would have reacted to your case on me - however, I'm not even sure I think that's what's going on with Errand. I think Errand is GENUINELY upset by Bugs' repeated insults. But the problem with that is that he's using the insults as the SOLE DETERMINING FACTOR in determining Bugs' alignment - and he refers BACK to the insults in trying to sway votes TOWARD Bugs. THIS is what I have an issue with. The way he's using the whole escapade to try and swing a Bugs lynch based on BS.

And as you say, he has done fuck all besides...so it's hard to determine his alignment OUTSIDE of the whole thing.

As far as my further scumreads go, I'm looking into Bugs' latest target (Xter or whatever) and Zephirdd myself, but I think consensus is going to favor lynching into the masons unfortunately (-.-) so it's really for posterity in case you get your way. I'll let you know what I find.

Original Message From talismania:
ok we can keep going by pms for now.

On eran - I still lean town on him. The major point with him is reconciling his personality with his alignment. he seems genuinely like a typical aggressive nerd. abit too prideful and prickly when it comes to people challening their opinions. I don't think he's making that up. The small posts in his filter read town to me - where he asks people questions and then follows up on them, for instance. His fight with wbg in chat was not very productive and certainly not how I would have done things but neither of them seemed to be in the mood for just hashing things out. I will say that he hasn't done much since the wbg issue has died down.

your feelings about erandorr stem from his masoning of bugs, yes? you think he did that knowing he would be outed, knowing he could get on wbg's nerves and hopefully force a lynch?

Original Message From VisceraEyes:
I have more time at work, but I can make time at home too. I'll pencil you in.

TL PMs are fine for me either way - that's all I used to communicate with Bugs (he keeps really odd hours -.-) so that's pretty much what I'm used to at this point.

[quote]


Dunno entirely what to make of that. My gut reaction is that he was just gloating at surviving. I also find it an incredibly weird thing to say to someone you think is scum if you are town. Like, I would just keep up the charade of saying I found the scum suspect townie while pumping him for information. VE however doesn't even care to ask me any questions at all even when I give him the opportunity.

Also VE, you still owe us your thoguhts on zephirdd, for like the 100th time.

And hopeless1der it will be morning for you soon so please give us those thoughts!



Reposting this so that people actually read what VE wrote here... uh. What the hell is that supposed to mean? "so I can make up for my folly tonight" makes it sound like he's going to vig me but he's a mason LOL.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 08 2012 17:08 GMT
#1137
why should someone shoot you or solstice lol.

You're still on the mafia radar of most people, for a reason.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2012 17:14 GMT
#1138
yeah you and i are less likely than snb and solstice. I think solstice because I think VE is scum and he's on VE as well. Plus he's a good townie and can be a discussion leader like sloosh.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 08 2012 17:15 GMT
#1139
That to me looks like VE is angry with you and wants you to pay for almost mislynching him. If you flip town, we'll be hard pressed to pick between him and bugs for who to lynch tomorrow after the whole eran-ve-bugs triangle.

I don't know about the 'make up for my folly tonight'. I'm expecting an epic case near the deadline right now. tbh I'm expecting 3 or 4 cases right around the deadline tonight, plus the rest of the mason logs.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 08 2012 17:15 GMT
#1140
btw toad who do you think the other three scum are? aside from hassy and wbg I mean.
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