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On December 12 2012 22:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 22:45 Palmar wrote:
Hell, as I explained in the video he made a very strange post that implied he knew your alignment, I can dig the interaction up if you don't remember that. no, I remember it because I had the same thoughts and then chuckled to myself that you commented on the same thing. Anyway your post just above reminded me from something from a previous game, I'm gonna go dig it up.
stupid me not finishing my thought - but at that point it didn't necessarily mean he couldn't be town reading me as town either.
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On December 12 2012 22:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
no, you suck, you poohead. You suck for being so sure. It's blatantly obvious, did you even read his big post "adam is my number 2 read BUT UNDER THE RUG WITH THAT, LET'S KILL TUNKEG".
You're right of course. #2s are meaningless in reality. Here's what this post of yours reminded me of:
On February 28 2012 07:33 kitaman27 wrote:5.) wherebugsgo: lol you seriously didn't roll mafia yet again did you? First BH claims scum and now this? Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 04:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
@RoL: you're fucking lucky Toad scumslipped so hard, or I'd be pushing you like there's no tomorrow. All you do is lurk lurk lurk and then make excuses for your inactivity. That's exactly what you did when we were teammates in Couples Therapy and it's what you did (IIRC) in Purgatory as well. "gosh darnnit, I'd really love to vote for you RoL, but all these townies are just so easy to push"
There's another interaction I don't particularly like:
On December 12 2012 00:08 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2012 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 11 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2012 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, I'm going to ignore Palmar since he somehow finds both myself and Jay scummier than Tunkeg. The fact that he thinks that makes his opinions irrelevant.
Marv-are you still willing to kill Tunkeg? Convince me why I should kill Adam over Tunkeg, and I'll consider switching my vote. Given that they're both even right now I see no reason to switch. Aye. Question for you - how do you generally evaluate the play of Adam/Tunkeg? (not in this game) generally with Adam and Tunkeg if they shy away from discussion they're probably scum. A lot of the time I find that when they are town I notice when they're present and know their opinions, and when they are scum they don't say anything useful. Take Adam and LI for example. Adam was incredibly passive and I put him on my scumlist at some point because I kept thinking, damn, Adam isn't doing anything, but no one noticed him. (I also didn't bring attention to him because I was more concerned with VE and that stupid Toad + VE shit but this is irrelevant to my point) Adam I know for a fact is complacent and passive as scum, and that's how his play here is. I don't feel like he has made any strong posts and he doesn't seem to have anything to contribute either. Tunkeg tends to draw attention to himself as town (usually unintentionally) by putting forth his opinions or reads or doing things that people don't like for whatever reason. I know I myself have chewed him out for doing things like that. I don't recall ever playing with him when he was scum, but I imagine that his scum play is similar to most other players lately; just really complacent and passive. Tunkeg's play has been more useless than complacent. What I was actually getting at with my question is that in general terms I view Adam's ability to contribute productively as significantly higher than Tunkeg's. Would you agree with this? And if so, do you see where I'm going?  no, I don't agree with that. Maybe that's because I don't find anything that either player has done to be particularly memorable from a town perspective. If you're right then yes, I'd see why Adam would make a better lynch.
So here I provide him with an example of Adam catching scum like a boss in WLIIA, and then
On December 12 2012 00:20 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 00:10 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2012 00:10 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2012 00:08 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 12 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2012 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 11 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:On December 11 2012 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, I'm going to ignore Palmar since he somehow finds both myself and Jay scummier than Tunkeg. The fact that he thinks that makes his opinions irrelevant.
Marv-are you still willing to kill Tunkeg? Convince me why I should kill Adam over Tunkeg, and I'll consider switching my vote. Given that they're both even right now I see no reason to switch. Aye. Question for you - how do you generally evaluate the play of Adam/Tunkeg? (not in this game) generally with Adam and Tunkeg if they shy away from discussion they're probably scum. A lot of the time I find that when they are town I notice when they're present and know their opinions, and when they are scum they don't say anything useful. Take Adam and LI for example. Adam was incredibly passive and I put him on my scumlist at some point because I kept thinking, damn, Adam isn't doing anything, but no one noticed him. (I also didn't bring attention to him because I was more concerned with VE and that stupid Toad + VE shit but this is irrelevant to my point) Adam I know for a fact is complacent and passive as scum, and that's how his play here is. I don't feel like he has made any strong posts and he doesn't seem to have anything to contribute either. Tunkeg tends to draw attention to himself as town (usually unintentionally) by putting forth his opinions or reads or doing things that people don't like for whatever reason. I know I myself have chewed him out for doing things like that. I don't recall ever playing with him when he was scum, but I imagine that his scum play is similar to most other players lately; just really complacent and passive. Tunkeg's play has been more useless than complacent. What I was actually getting at with my question is that in general terms I view Adam's ability to contribute productively as significantly higher than Tunkeg's. Would you agree with this? And if so, do you see where I'm going? no, I don't agree with that. Maybe that's because I don't find anything that either player has done to be particularly memorable from a town perspective. If you're right then yes, I'd see why Adam would make a better lynch. Fucked that one up Take a gander at Whose Line where Adam caught two scum in the first cycle or so is what I meant to say At the very least Adam has some sort of scumread.Tunkeg doesn't even have that.
Basically in the first post bugs is saying "if you're right about Adam being useful, he's a better lynch". I provide an example of him being useful, which is then ignored with the deflection bolded there. Was I not right then?? Or?? Did he look?
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I'm not sure what you're doing marv, convincing yourself we need to kill Bugs tomorrow?
Cause that's exactly what I want to do.
I agree with your points btw.
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On December 12 2012 23:04 Palmar wrote:
I'm not sure what you're doing marv, convincing yourself we need to kill Bugs tomorrow?
Cause that's exactly what I want to do.
I agree with your points btw.
pretty much dear.
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On December 12 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 21:26 Bluelightz wrote:On December 12 2012 20:44 Palmar wrote:
uh...
I asked are YOU down for killing bugs. I don't care what the popular opinion is. Personally yes I am. His obsession with supposed chance on you seems to me like an easy reason to lynch someone. Hi BL. Is this really the main reason you'd be down for killing bugs? Also: + Show Spoiler +On December 12 2012 21:34 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 18:01 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 12 2012 17:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Also he pretty clearly doesn't assume your town, since he pressure-votes you later down the line. No, he thought I was town the whole time. His first read on me was: "My first reaction to thrawn post was "yeah, obvious scum" then I thought that he might not have been serious at all. A one liner for a miller claim doesn't look real, regardless of his alignment. The way he answered "nvm, then" shows that he is carefree about it." The other issue is him asking why I did it and pressure voting me to find out. He later says the town motivation he thought I had was that that I was hoping to attract pressure from scum. This was based on a post I made from looney. So if he thinks I'm trying to attract scum attention, why would he vote pressure me so that I'll announce it to the thread? @ thrawnI didn't know what the fuck you were trying to do at first when you said "not explaining why I did this at all". At first, I was expecting you to simply admit that you wanted to spark discussing with this obvious fakeclaim but I didn't understand why you went into that "not explaining anything at all mode". I pressure voted you because I was still not so sure I had made the right choice at that time (i.e. town move or lying scum) and I wanted you to explain yourself for the following reasons: - If town, you would have better off stopping this ASAP imo, because people would have voted you for lying and being anti-town for not explaining yourself. Also, if you were baiting mafia, it was going to be far to obvious, so it didn't matter so much for you to "come clean".
- If scum, it would have been better to force you into posting more shit
Then, I thought about the comment you made in the Looney Game... This is the kinda post I was talking about off-timing with the thread.
Honestly it's the only piece of dirt that makes WBG suspicious to me, besides his defense of Adam ofc. If there is a solid case on him I'll be sure to read up though.
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Hum, I'm leaning slightly town on VE for his lynch time actions. They seem too retarded to be scum, and retarded is more a town-VE trait. I could explain in more detail but it doesn't seem worth it at the moment.
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On December 12 2012 23:15 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:On December 12 2012 21:26 Bluelightz wrote:On December 12 2012 20:44 Palmar wrote:
uh...
I asked are YOU down for killing bugs. I don't care what the popular opinion is. Personally yes I am. His obsession with supposed chance on you seems to me like an easy reason to lynch someone. Hi BL. Is this really the main reason you'd be down for killing bugs? Also: + Show Spoiler +On December 12 2012 21:34 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 18:01 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 12 2012 17:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Also he pretty clearly doesn't assume your town, since he pressure-votes you later down the line. No, he thought I was town the whole time. His first read on me was: "My first reaction to thrawn post was "yeah, obvious scum" then I thought that he might not have been serious at all. A one liner for a miller claim doesn't look real, regardless of his alignment. The way he answered "nvm, then" shows that he is carefree about it." The other issue is him asking why I did it and pressure voting me to find out. He later says the town motivation he thought I had was that that I was hoping to attract pressure from scum. This was based on a post I made from looney. So if he thinks I'm trying to attract scum attention, why would he vote pressure me so that I'll announce it to the thread? @ thrawnI didn't know what the fuck you were trying to do at first when you said "not explaining why I did this at all". At first, I was expecting you to simply admit that you wanted to spark discussing with this obvious fakeclaim but I didn't understand why you went into that "not explaining anything at all mode". I pressure voted you because I was still not so sure I had made the right choice at that time (i.e. town move or lying scum) and I wanted you to explain yourself for the following reasons: - If town, you would have better off stopping this ASAP imo, because people would have voted you for lying and being anti-town for not explaining yourself. Also, if you were baiting mafia, it was going to be far to obvious, so it didn't matter so much for you to "come clean".
- If scum, it would have been better to force you into posting more shit
Then, I thought about the comment you made in the Looney Game... This is the kinda post I was talking about off-timing with the thread. Honestly it's the only piece of dirt that makes WBG suspicious to me, besides his defense of Adam ofc. If there is a solid case on him I'll be sure to read up though.
I don't need your thoughts, only your vote.
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If we have a vig he should definately put a cap in WBG's ass. If we have a jailkeeper he should definately protect Palmar. But even if protected the chance is that scum got a vig and will double stack Palmar. WBG dies tonight or tomorrow, but Palmar who should we kill day 3?
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Hurray for directing protective roles and acting as if there's nothing to do in the next 48h
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On December 13 2012 00:18 Tunkeg wrote:
If we have a vig he should definately put a cap in WBG's ass. If we have a jailkeeper he should definately protect Palmar. But even if protected the chance is that scum got a vig and will double stack Palmar. WBG dies tonight or tomorrow, but Palmar who should we kill day 3?
we'll kill whoever is scummiest day by day, do some thinking for yourself for god's sakes.
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On December 13 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hurray for directing protective roles and acting as if there's nothing to do in the next 48h
You do know chances are high that Palmar gets killed tonight right? Any jailkeeper not protecting him is probably retarded. If Palmar do die we won't get his reads, why do you have a problem with me wanting to know who Palmar would lynch next?
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On December 13 2012 00:26 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hurray for directing protective roles and acting as if there's nothing to do in the next 48h You do know chances are high that Palmar gets killed tonight right? Any jailkeeper not protecting him is probably retarded. If Palmar do die we won't get his reads, why do you have a problem with me wanting to know who Palmar would lynch next?
we know who he would lynch next. I'm happy with palmar giving his reads (duh) but asking who we should lynch on a particular day over 3 days away is just odd, to say the least.
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Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it?
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On December 13 2012 00:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:18 Tunkeg wrote:
If we have a vig he should definately put a cap in WBG's ass. If we have a jailkeeper he should definately protect Palmar. But even if protected the chance is that scum got a vig and will double stack Palmar. WBG dies tonight or tomorrow, but Palmar who should we kill day 3? we'll kill whoever is scummiest day by day, do some thinking for yourself for god's sakes.
don't encourage them....
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On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it?
Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do.
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glass houses and all that
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On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it? Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do.
Please list the people dumb enough.
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On December 13 2012 00:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it? Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do. Please list the people dumb enough.
Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me.
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On December 13 2012 00:45 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:40 Palmar wrote:On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it? Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do. Please list the people dumb enough. Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me.
Glad you're not jk then.
Your head is disproportionally big to the ego that you should have.
Also, you've called plenty of people dumb and I don't recall a single one of them being more of an idiot than you.
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On December 13 2012 00:45 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2012 00:40 Palmar wrote:On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote:On December 13 2012 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Directing the jailkeeper when his target is "so obvious only a retard would not" is dumb and useless and throwing WIFOM in the air for no reason. If the target is so obvious why are you even saying it? Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happend to roll jk they need to be told what to do. Please list the people dumb enough. Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me.
I opened your filter and searched for dumb, you haven't called anyone dumb.
So again I ask you, who is "seriously dumb"?
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