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On January 12 2010 05:55 Mortician wrote: can someone post results in spoiler?
+ Show Spoiler + Mondragon 0:2 Idra Strelok 2:1 Ace White-Ra 0:0 Draco (postponed) koget 2:1 mana
edit: ARF, too late.
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On January 12 2010 05:54 Prof. Protoss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 05:52 Klive5ive wrote: He was just making a lame excuse because he got frustrated. that's what I think too no way he could have broken streloks bunker defense
He didn't need to , he had more drones ....
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On January 12 2010 06:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 05:54 Prof. Protoss wrote:On January 12 2010 05:52 Klive5ive wrote: He was just making a lame excuse because he got frustrated. that's what I think too no way he could have broken streloks bunker defense He didn't need to , he had more drones .... So? He had one hatchery vs 2 Rax. It was game over already.
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On January 12 2010 06:25 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:15 raga4ka wrote:On January 12 2010 05:54 Prof. Protoss wrote:On January 12 2010 05:52 Klive5ive wrote: He was just making a lame excuse because he got frustrated. that's what I think too no way he could have broken streloks bunker defense He didn't need to , he had more drones .... So? He had one hatchery vs 2 Rax. It was game over already.
But no medics, 1 sunken + lings + ling micro could have hold it, imho
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Don't talk if you actually knew something. I had my reasons to do so. I knew I was ahead when I downsized his SCV count to 6 scvs, while I was confidently sitting at 9 drones + 300 minerals.
I just apologize for having done this, as some people probably were expecting more of me, or more out of this series. I'm sorry I didn't put more effort in it, especially in the last game, but unlikely many people here seem to actually "know" it wasn't an excuse. I really had to leave as quickly as possible, as at least in my life there are a lot things that take higher priorities than broodwar, and the reason why I had to quit the game was one of those. After all I don't regret what I did, and I'm sure it was the right thing to do. Bash me if you want to, but don't talk like if you knew what was going on in my life when I decided to 5pool.
GG's Strelok, and good luck in the further tournament.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
koget/mana games any good?
Ace prioritizing real life over a scheduled match in a money league seems silly ;( I'm not going to tell you your priorities are bad since they clearly are your own to manage but spending as many hours on BW as you do, working up a tourney and knocking people out just to lose because you decided something else was more important to do (not saying you would h ave won anyways, but that is the excuse being given) is pretty lame for the community, the people you beat and yourself.
You may not like hearing this but consider conducting yourself less selfishly in the future. Everyone will benefit.
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Cool down man. Nobody here claimed to know anything. It was just our analysis of the game. Ok, maybe you going all in and leaving was no excuse, still I think the game was over at that point. I guess you would have expanded after the first semi-succesful rush if you would've had more time.
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why didnt u ask for pp? to me it sounds kinda ridiculous but i have not even seen the games so xd
feels like u could kick streloks ass if u life wasnt in the way
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On January 12 2010 07:17 MorroW wrote: why didnt u ask for pp?
I spoke with the head admin of this tournament, and this is what he said to me, I felt so free to translate it, any german guy will confirm the translation, so don't worry. Santo(head admin): es gibt keine wildcards in den playoffs (Wildcards don't exist anymore in the playoffs) Santo: wenn du nich kannst fliegst du raus (If you're not able to play you're disqualified)
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On January 12 2010 07:23 faculty.aCe. wrote:I spoke with the head admin of this tournament, and this is what he said to me, I felt so free to translate it, any german guy will confirm the translation, so don't worry. Santo(head admin): es gibt keine wildcards in den playoffs (Wildcards don't exist anymore in the playoffs) Santo: wenn du nich kannst fliegst du raus (If you're not able to play you're disqualified)
Then how exactly was White-Ra/Draco postponed?
Also, since when was Round of 8 Bo3? It was Bo5 last season, made it more fun imo.
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@ Incontrol : You are right in general but we both agree there are scenarios and cases were even the money isnt as important as certain things in life, dont we ?
( I know u didnt know that Ace had no other choice than playing the series at the given time or he would be qualified never the less.. )
@ aCe: I know this is your life but I would be interested in what your duty was ? Probably something important.. not a party or something friend related I guess..
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On January 12 2010 07:28 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:23 faculty.aCe. wrote:On January 12 2010 07:17 MorroW wrote: why didnt u ask for pp?
I spoke with the head admin of this tournament, and this is what he said to me, I felt so free to translate it, any german guy will confirm the translation, so don't worry. Santo(head admin): es gibt keine wildcards in den playoffs (Wildcards don't exist anymore in the playoffs) Santo: wenn du nich kannst fliegst du raus (If you're not able to play you're disqualified) Then how exactly was White-Ra/Draco postponed?
Thats pretty bad organisation than unless Ace is plain and simply telling lies..
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On January 12 2010 07:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:28 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On January 12 2010 07:23 faculty.aCe. wrote:On January 12 2010 07:17 MorroW wrote: why didnt u ask for pp?
I spoke with the head admin of this tournament, and this is what he said to me, I felt so free to translate it, any german guy will confirm the translation, so don't worry. Santo(head admin): es gibt keine wildcards in den playoffs (Wildcards don't exist anymore in the playoffs) Santo: wenn du nich kannst fliegst du raus (If you're not able to play you're disqualified) Then how exactly was White-Ra/Draco postponed? Thats pretty bad organisation than unless Ace is plain and simply telling lies..
I'm not telling lies in any way. The conversation with santo I posted was copied&pasted from my ICQ History. I was wondering about Draco/White-Ra postponing as well. But just to prove my innocence: http://www.esl.eu/eu/ems/season5/scbw/playoffs/match/16753764/?comment=0&comments I posted this yesterday in the earliest minutes of the day, after I've had posted this Santo messaged me in ICQ and this is what he wrote to me.
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This series totally pissed me off. First of all it was very laggy. Same laggy as when i played clanwar against RushGood on saturday. More then that, latency during game changed all the time - sometimes you get normal control, and sometimes units simply don't obbey you. i mean you press 1a2a3a4a5a and only 3 of them go. Second of all making low latency when muta appearted by ace on huge lag totally pissed me off and i lost control on myself. I excused to Ace after game ofc. Third game and pool 5 on that lag totally finished me. Never got so mentally tired after 1 single bo3.
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Is there something wrong with the iccup latency atm? since i cant check or experience it from ubuntu using ;/
well if aCe couldnt come cause of personal matters i understand him in a certain way, since if it is important IT just is. And i can understand incontrol too because its a big tournament with a lot of money or not "a lot" but its money anyways involved and he knocked out ppl to participate in it.
And i do understand Strelok too, cause laggy games NORMALLY pisses you off, i would have just left and ppéd it and wait for iccup latency being fixed seriously? Because much in this tournament is "important" for it to be rund well.
IF that is the problem sort of speak.
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Its monday night, where could possible have to go ?-_- Very fishy...
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Last week Mana showed up and ret didn't, Mana was adamant to advance and so he did. I guess White-Ra was ok with postponing it, otherwise it would be strange that ace couldn't postpone it.
I appreciate a lot that ESL is running this tournament, but they just carry on with all those sloppy things, they accidentally spoiler results, they hide the replay bar too late, wrong flaqs, good games get postponed, no one knows if it's Bo3 or Bo5, results are put in days later and sometimes even wrong, they jump into series and don't show the rest... it just lessens the fun of an otherwise great broadcast.
On January 12 2010 08:15 kroko wrote: Its monday night, where could possible have to go ?-_- Very fishy...
aCe wrote on Sunday morning that he has no time on Monday...
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On January 12 2010 08:30 arctics86 wrote: Last week Mana showed up and ret didn't, Mana was adamant to advance and so he did. I guess White-Ra was ok with postponing it, otherwise it would be strange that ace couldn't postpone it. .
Yes, the commentators said White-ra was extremley mannered as always and agreed to postpone even on short notice.
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On January 12 2010 07:29 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:28 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On January 12 2010 07:23 faculty.aCe. wrote:On January 12 2010 07:17 MorroW wrote: why didnt u ask for pp?
I spoke with the head admin of this tournament, and this is what he said to me, I felt so free to translate it, any german guy will confirm the translation, so don't worry. Santo(head admin): es gibt keine wildcards in den playoffs (Wildcards don't exist anymore in the playoffs) Santo: wenn du nich kannst fliegst du raus (If you're not able to play you're disqualified) Then how exactly was White-Ra/Draco postponed? Thats pretty bad organisation than unless Ace is plain and simply telling lies.. he is, i play every match early and ret was told that he could postpone vs mana if mana agreed, but manas a douchebag so he took the walkover. ace fagged his way through everyone so far and he just happened to choose to 4 pool now cuz he had to go. right.
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Artosis
United States2138 Posts
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