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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I still think you look terrible Jonny, you pretty much ignored me but we'll talk about it in a while. I don't think you are the best lynch right now after catching up anyway. ##Unvote I already didn't like Vonthin and what I just read doesn't help him out in this.. ##Vote Vonthin | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 04 2013 06:46 JonnyLaw wrote: Owb you really should look at poofter. He's scummier to me at this point. I'd rather stay with him than move onto Von, but if it's an option that will go through I'm okay with that idea. @storr that's a great point about nyx but he's been getting that pressure all game. Do you think he's playing differently since the start? Honestly at the start of the game, he was doing better, at least "trying" imo. right now, he was obviously on line when i posted. Which imo means he has been reading the thread and lurking with out actually wanting to provide content. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 04 2013 06:46 JonnyLaw wrote: Owb you really should look at poofter. He's scummier to me at this point. I'd rather stay with him than move onto Von, but if it's an option that will go through I'm okay with that idea. @storr that's a great point about nyx but he's been getting that pressure all game. Do you think he's playing differently since the start? Hmm alright then, I'll go back and reread his filter. Von stood out to me more but I won't count out poofter. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 04 2013 06:58 OdinOfPergo wrote: My prefered day 1 lynch is probably looking Vonthin or Storr. I feel about the same on both of them and Storr making a quest against Nyx really makes me dislike him even more. If he stores getting votes I'm fine with changing over to it. give me a reasons why nyx is a bad lynch then... on a side note... why are lurkers a bad lynch on day 2. we have 2 hours to come together on a vote.. and it looks like i can't convince anyone to go on nyx which i find silly. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
Im in general attacking inactive people... I made a good case against nyx... its just kinda bonus he is being bad and inactive | ||
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
Anyways, I think how slow you've been to start forming solid opinions on people makes you seem scummy when you've been active the game since the start. That's my opinion on your earlier play, and I don't anticipate that changing. My overall opinion of you's only gonna change with your play from now on. But considering how much prodding it took to get you to post this much, I'd rather just lynch you. I think a townie would've been easier to persuade into producing more helpful posts. To town: I won't repeat my arguments against poofter again, but I'm glad that we're looking at him for a lynch. I'd be onboard killing him. Vonthin wasn't as noticeable to me, and I got more of an impression that he's trying to help. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I can't type that fast though so you'll have to bear with me while I do that. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On November 04 2013 06:08 JonnyLaw wrote: I'd rather lynch Von or Poofter as well. Nyx and owb have so little to go on right now. I'm really not buying that nyx is scum. Playing terribly. Sure. I want to know if obzy will vote one of them. I'm not certain we can get 6 votes without him. I'm going to read their filters again before I decide where to place my vote. To be honest I'd vote storr as a last resort as well. He hasn't pushed the town in a direction that helps us much anyway. I'm not really around, but I'll vote to ensure a lynch if we're only one away. I've basically lost confidence in my reads and don't want to throw wrenches into the plot at this point with my guesswork. Going by what I thought on day 1, Storr was my preferred lynch - night 1, jonny was my preferred lynch - day 2, I haven't really had a preferred lynch. Someone inactive seemed preferable. Consider me willing to switch for majority, but I don't personally have a lot to say in the lead up, and there's no reason for me to contribute if I have nothing to say since I happened to roll IC, this is not something that applies to the rest of town, particularly those that haven't been very townie in the first place. ##Unvote Onlywonderboy is basically playing exactly how I would expect from non-contributing scum - make excuses, then show up and drop a vote at the deadline. The problem is that he could also just be incredibly busy town that doesn't want to get modkilled, but at this point, doesn't want to re-read the entire game and start now. I don't know how to tell the difference, but it doesn't look like he's going to be the primary lynch target today anyways, so to reduce an amount of confusion, I'll unvote for the moment. It'll also force me to pay attention and consolidate later. If anybody, for some reason, happens to have any direct questions for me, i'll try to answer haha. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
The whole time he's been strait fward and confident in his pushes. The only real place he doesn't do this is very early D1 with E00? vote. Looks to me like he just mis-understood how long the day cycle was. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 02:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote: E00e was a crapshoot when i thought the voting was closing in 5 hours time. at that point E00e had pretty much nothing posted and was pretty much just a lurker vote for me to fulfill the 'must vote' condition. Considering he's right in his logic, the town didn't have any consensus, what's wrong with his reasoning? + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 02:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote: poofter has more content posted compared to E00e, who had close to nothing at the time of my vote for him. i don't like odin this game, jonny seems fine to me. do not like July either. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 05:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i actually believe E00e. let's just say i woke up at 4am for a reason and maybe it's to save you E00e. ##unvote ##Vote: OdinOfPergo We then get closer to the end of the day and he moves his votes around to whoever he is getting bad vibes from. While not being any level of in-depth, I can't say that suprises me. But when I look at his post from the time, it seems to me all his votes are justified at the time he post them. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 14:16 nyxnyxnyx wrote: if you compare to last game i'm doing a lot more. better is relative, my friend talking about broken promises, i recall you were advocating a tighter game by towns, but you seem all over the place yourself. coulda condensed a lot of those 'reads' you had on me into one simple sentence, rather than a long post that serves no purpose. are you scum, storr? This is how Nyx plays. He's going to tell you what he thinks, he's not really going to give you a lot to work with. He wants everyone to think for themselves for opinions. While this doesn't greatly help the town, it is something and certainly not hurting it. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 18:52 nyxnyxnyx wrote: any analytical soul wants to put the current conflicts into a nice, easily analyzable form so we can deduce relationships? Pro-town. + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 01:48 nyxnyxnyx wrote: after going through both filters: jonny has some strong belief that july is not scum. this belief is proven correct when july flips town, so he's now mad that no one listened and is taking it out on you in particular because you prodded him. you are answering his questions, but not to his liking. at this point it seems like both of you are just getting pissy at each other when i believe both are in fact, town. Pro-town.. + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 02:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i don't blame anyone for the july vote. if we went by what transpired last game and how he eventually flipped SK, i think it wasn't out of the question to think he could be non-town. Pro-town.. If he was just throwing random votes everywhere for no reason, then it would be hurting the town. But if you actually look into why he mentions something, it does usually make some sort of sense. His post are hard to read, to garner anything from them you have to look at the context surrounding them. Because he's not going to hold your hand while you do it. This is why I think your case on him is crap. Everything he's done this game makes me think he's town. | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
I always thought he was always someone scummy, never really had that strong of a read on him since I was mainly paying attention on other people plus he does not have a lot of posts. His posts early game seemed off like the "I really wish you would give us something" to July and his last post which didn't say anything useful besides I thought we would talk more about the night kill and that he is reading filters. I thought we talked a decent amount of the nightkill, thats where all the discussion about Jonny came from. Besides that I didn't like his reasoning on some things like how he got on the Cake bandwagon in the early game. His main reasoning was he just didn't like his reasoning on Storr and that other people accused him of being scummy. He then tries to defend his view on him being scummy by saying I don't like how he misinterpreted 2 things. Those things were also misinterpreted by other people including myself with the Nyx/LoL forum thing and I just see it as weak reasoning to think why Cake was scum at the time. I will vote for him if we need a majority but I feel more comfortable with OWB | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
I think I explained my case about e00 pretty well. There are a lot of uncertainties surrounding the day 1 lynch. More times than not they come down to hunches rather than hard facts just because there is so much less information to work with. e00 was playing in a way that wasn't directly benefiting town and I thought there was a chance he was scum. You did not explain your case about e00 pretty well. All you said was is that he is under suspicion from other people and then a feeling about him. That is not a strong case, that is just plain sheeping. You do not give any explanations about the vote at all. I would not have been mad if you actually made an explanation and had good reasoning and then left the vote on him. He's been more active recently, but I think there's a chance he's a scum who knows he needs to work his ass off to try and turn the suspicion away from him. We'll see how the discussion goes down around deadline, but for the moment What the fuck am I supposed to do about this? If I got called out for not posting enough do you just expect me to not post anything and continue being a dead weight to town like you are currently? You still haven't done anything all game besides besides just sheep on the e00e vote and call out lurkers when you are a lurker yourself. When you do start posting again you call me scum for weak reasoning mainly because I am the most vocal about you. You have made 0 reads on other people and are just trying to hop on my vote after Balla voted for me. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 04 2013 07:22 OdinOfPergo wrote: --Nyx The whole time he's been strait fward and confident in his pushes. The only real place he doesn't do this is very early D1 with E00? vote. Looks to me like he just mis-understood how long the day cycle was. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 02:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote: E00e was a crapshoot when i thought the voting was closing in 5 hours time. at that point E00e had pretty much nothing posted and was pretty much just a lurker vote for me to fulfill the 'must vote' condition. Considering he's right in his logic, the town didn't have any consensus, what's wrong with his reasoning? + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 02:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote: poofter has more content posted compared to E00e, who had close to nothing at the time of my vote for him. i don't like odin this game, jonny seems fine to me. do not like July either. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 05:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i actually believe E00e. let's just say i woke up at 4am for a reason and maybe it's to save you E00e. ##unvote ##Vote: OdinOfPergo We then get closer to the end of the day and he moves his votes around to whoever he is getting bad vibes from. While not being any level of in-depth, I can't say that suprises me. But when I look at his post from the time, it seems to me all his votes are justified at the time he post them. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 14:16 nyxnyxnyx wrote: if you compare to last game i'm doing a lot more. better is relative, my friend talking about broken promises, i recall you were advocating a tighter game by towns, but you seem all over the place yourself. coulda condensed a lot of those 'reads' you had on me into one simple sentence, rather than a long post that serves no purpose. are you scum, storr? This is how Nyx plays. He's going to tell you what he thinks, he's not really going to give you a lot to work with. He wants everyone to think for themselves for opinions. While this doesn't greatly help the town, it is something and certainly not hurting it. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 18:52 nyxnyxnyx wrote: any analytical soul wants to put the current conflicts into a nice, easily analyzable form so we can deduce relationships? Pro-town. + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 01:48 nyxnyxnyx wrote: after going through both filters: jonny has some strong belief that july is not scum. this belief is proven correct when july flips town, so he's now mad that no one listened and is taking it out on you in particular because you prodded him. you are answering his questions, but not to his liking. at this point it seems like both of you are just getting pissy at each other when i believe both are in fact, town. Pro-town.. + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 02:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i don't blame anyone for the july vote. if we went by what transpired last game and how he eventually flipped SK, i think it wasn't out of the question to think he could be non-town. Pro-town.. If he was just throwing random votes everywhere for no reason, then it would be hurting the town. But if you actually look into why he mentions something, it does usually make some sort of sense. His post are hard to read, to garner anything from them you have to look at the context surrounding them. Because he's not going to hold your hand while you do it. This is why I think your case on him is crap. Everything he's done this game makes me think he's town. Ok that was entirely day 1... I will give you, day 1. But his play day 2 has been abysmal. nothing like his day 1. We need to get a vote, and im not doing any good pushing on nyxnyxnyx ##Unvote: | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Also, you rehashing a lot of things, not bringing a whole lot in.. Frankly Poofter looks the worst out of lurkers and these post seem like you are just trying to focus on someone other than him if we have to lynch a lurker. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 04 2013 07:29 Vonthin wrote: Even after OWB most recent posts I still think he is a good candidate for a lynch today. You did not explain your case about e00 pretty well. All you said was is that he is under suspicion from other people and then a feeling about him. That is not a strong case, that is just plain sheeping. You do not give any explanations about the vote at all. I would not have been mad if you actually made an explanation and had good reasoning and then left the vote on him. What the fuck am I supposed to do about this? If I got called out for not posting enough do you just expect me to not post anything and continue being a dead weight to town like you are currently? You still haven't done anything all game besides besides just sheep on the e00e vote and call out lurkers when you are a lurker yourself. When you do start posting again you call me scum for weak reasoning mainly because I am the most vocal about you. You have made 0 reads on other people and are just trying to hop on my vote after Balla voted for me. I don't know that to tell you about the e00 vote. It's day 1, of course a lot of the votes are going to just come down to suspicions rather than hard facts. Balla even said the vote itself was a good town play despite not liking how I left the thread.. I also don't know how you can claim I'm jumping on voting for you just because Balla started it. I made my post calling you yesterday, I had you pegged as scum then even though I didn't put my official vote in. | ||
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