There are reasons why unclaimed shots might have been from someone in the town. For example, Lord Kanti's KP from Aperture Mafia. Based on the flips that have already occured this game, I don't think that it's irrational to assume that a role with KP doesn't have some other stuff associated with it. The fact that Draz didn't immediately claim his shot doesn't imply that he's scum.
Drazerk claimed that KP and nobody cc'ed, so it at least proves Drazerk shot him
Let's go about it logically:
P1)S&B got shot only once
P2)Drazerk claimed he shot S&B
P3)Nobody counterclaimed Drazerk
P4)If someone claims an unique action, and another townie did that action, then that townie cc's the original claimer.
P5)If someone claims an unique action, and no townie cc's him, then that player either did that unique action or he's scum and a scumbuddy of his did it.
P6)If a scumbuddy of yours shoots someone, it still counts as if you shot him (since you are part of that scum team).
T1)Because of (P1), shooting S&B is an unique action
T2)Because of (T1) and (P4): If someone claims he shot S&B, and another townie did so, that townie cc's the guy that claims he shot S&B
T3)Because of (T2) and (P2): If another townie shot S&B, that townie cc's Drazerk
T4)Because of (T3) and (P4): No townie shot S&B
T5)Because of (T1),(P2),(T4) and (P5): Drazerk either shot S&B or is scum and his scumbuddy did it
T)Because of (T5) and (P6): Drazerk shot S&BThis doesn't take into account maybe someone from another faction shooting S&B and Drazerk claiming the shot himself and the other faction scum not claiming; but that's unlikely as well...and we didn't know there was a 2nd scum faction at that time.
Also you may doubt (P1) but I can prove it to you:
(P0)S&B is town
(P'1)S&B got shot
(P'2)If someone is town and is shot, he claims all the times he's shot and all the details
(P'3)If S&B gets shot more than once he dies (optional)
(P'4)S&B was alive on D2
(P'5)S&B claimed he got shot once
(T'1)Because of (P0) and (P'1): S&B claimed all the times he's shot and all the details
(T'2)Because of (T'1) and (P'5): S&B got shot once.(T'3)Because of (P'3) and (P'4): S&B didn't get shot more than once
(T'4)Because of (T'3) and (P'1): S&B got shot onceDamn syllogisms are fun
Also, your conclusion there is kind of irrelevant. My conclusion was that
Drazerk shot S&BYou never mention that that conclusion is wrong, you just spout things like "unaccounted KP can be made from town" (I'll give it to you that that you may be right about that part of my post, but it was just a transitional thought I had) and "The fact that Draz didn't immediately claim his shot doesn't imply that he's scum." which again is irrelevant to the conclusion I made. I don't ever mention at all in that post that Draz is scum for not claiming his shot beforehand (that's something I pressure him about in other posts, previous ones I think).
In the event of a busdriver, 98% of the time, the person performing the action isn't notified of a bussing. Therefore, Draz would not know that he had bussed, and wouldn't have known to claim that he shot S+B
No townie claimed the shot, it's natural that if this happened he would have figured out he was bussed. After nobody claims the shot nor the bus after he claims, he's sure he was the one that shot him.
Also again, if he claims he shot S&B, and a town bus driver drove S&B and Draz' original target, the town driver would have known something is fishy since Draz' original target didn't claim the shot. Unless he drove Mementos. Even then he would know something is weird since it means someone shot Mementos. Even then the bus driver doesn't even matter since it means 1 guy shot S&B and 1 guy shot mementos.
And why on earth are you implying that there's a town busdriver to begin with? Why do you keep fishing for blues?
I'm not implying there's a town busdriver I'm only taking into account the possibility. Also that's not fishing for blues.
As town, you should know better than to spout off stuff like this. You would have taken a step back and realized that this post doesn't accomplish anything other than create more chaos while people discuss why you are completely wrong. Town gonzaw is better than this.
I'm logically proving Drazerk did shot S&B so people stop speculating about Drazerk
not shooting him (Keirathi did at one point say that he didn't like speculating since maybe some weird thing happened or some shit).
That's the opposite of chaos cupcake. I'm giving people real, unaltered and trusty information.
Town gonzaw is better than this.
Now this is where I got weirded out.
Everybody knows I do this as town; any townie that already played with me would know. You played with me several times when I was town, at least I remember the original Aperture (I think you were there).
Even if you don't know what I do as town, you can't assume that you do and be wrong about it. Specially when my post has a purpose (prove/decide what happened N1 with Drazerk/S&B)
What was the purpose of that post of yours ghost?
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