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On October 07 2012 09:35 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 09:33 gonzaw wrote:On October 07 2012 09:29 Drazerk wrote:
Because anyone with half a brain could see what my role is by now I really didn't make it subtle I know what you are implying....that you are an Aperture Science executive. That flavour doesn't really make it any better, considering the robot that guy created just flipped scum. Since you apparently found what he's talking about, care to share? I'm loathe to wade through the cess pool that is his filter.
Remember when he threw a lemon granade back at you.
Apparently he's Cave Johnson, Aperture Science CEO before the GLaDOS stuff.
If all townies are Test Subjects+friendly objects from the game+people under the opression of Aperture Science....where does that leave Cave Johnson?
He was kind of an okay guy in the tapes (ie. wasn't murderous like GlaDOS)......except for the forcing people to fight mantises and experimenting on hobos and shit so I can't really know.
Hmm.
I'm wondering what town roles are out there. I can only imagine mine, Kei's/S&B's, and Chell/Wheatly, but that still leaves 3 (or 4 if I'm one of Chell/Wheatly) more people (assuming we are at 8v1v1) and I don't really remember any specific lore from the games to figure out the remaining ones. If there was a shortage of town roles I could see Cave being there (and the scum being a turret or something like I speculated before).
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Gonzaw, stop with the fucking setup speculation.
I don't know and I don't care about the rolls and the lore in the game. Aperture 1 was won by Foolishness pretty much saying "I don't care about the lore/roles/what'sgoingoninthethread. Let's find us some scum." Do that.
Do you think he's scum based on what he did in this game.
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Different people, different sized game and different setup.
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Yes and No. He did nothing, which is either usual scum trying to survive or very dumb town Drazerk being Drazerk
I guess there's no choice but to kill him though.
Also ghost, I can use that quote against you as well, "find some scum". I've posted tons of stuff about Drazerk's behaviour from D1, which basically fits his behaviour all game. I don't remember you doing so. I don't remember you doing anything ever since FoSing S&B on D2.
You can't use that quote against me
You also haven't mentioned anything that was talked about you today.
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Kill me with a Vigilante wasting a lynch on me is retarded on all levels and you guys know this
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If i was vig, I would certainly oblige.
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On October 07 2012 09:51 Drazerk wrote:
Kill me with a Vigilante wasting a lynch on me is retarded on all levels and you guys know this
As much as I like that idea, we can't be sure we have another/a vig (remember you supposedly are one right?)
There are other options to try to just "confirm you" as scum or town (if we have a DT or tracker or watcher out there), but with the possibilities of one of the 2 scum roles fucking up reports and shit that isn't reliable either.
What do you suggest Draz?
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Sure Kei and then you lose because S+B was scum
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Really ghost, help me understand.
Look at these posts please:
On October 06 2012 05:20 ghost_403 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 05:10 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah, it's possible.
However, if there was 1 KP that got to S&B. someone must have shot it. If the guy that shot it was town, he'd have claimed, therefore it's either scum or SK KP (basically anti-town KP). Drazerk claimed that KP and nobody cc'ed, so it at least proves Drazerk shot him (whether as town, scum or SK).
You may be right about the targets though, maybe a town bus driver bussed S&B with a pro-town townie and scum/SK Drazerk shot S&B instead of his intended target.
Yeah, we might leave that out until we have more claims or knowledge of night actions. However, if no town night action interfered with the kill, I think it's highly likely that if Drazerk is scum his shot was on the target he intended.
It could be the same for 3rd party Drazerk, but maybe scum bussed S&B with someone and Drazerk didn't know. This response is so wrong there's no justification for it from a town point of view. Let's take a moment to examine what was said here: - Any unclaimed shot must be anti-town
- Unquestioning belief that Draz is telling the truth
- More blue fishing
- Stuff that was just plain wrong
There are reasons why unclaimed shots might have been from someone in the town. For example, Lord Kanti's KP from Aperture Mafia. Based on the flips that have already occured this game, I don't think that it's irrational to assume that a role with KP doesn't have some other stuff associated with it. The fact that Draz didn't immediately claim his shot doesn't imply that he's scum. That second part about the busdriver is (a) wrong and (b) blue fishing. In the event of a busdriver, 98% of the time, the person performing the action isn't notified of a bussing. Therefore, Draz would not know that he had bussed, and wouldn't have known to claim that he shot S+B. And why on earth are you implying that there's a town busdriver to begin with? Why do you keep fishing for blues? As town, you should know better than to spout off stuff like this. You would have taken a step back and realized that this post doesn't accomplish anything other than create more chaos while people discuss why you are completely wrong. Town gonzaw is better than this.
On October 07 2012 09:45 ghost_403 wrote:
Gonzaw, stop with the fucking setup speculation.
I don't know and I don't care about the rolls and the lore in the game. Aperture 1 was won by Foolishness pretty much saying "I don't care about the lore/roles/what'sgoingoninthethread. Let's find us some scum." Do that.
Do you think he's scum based on what he did in this game.
These posts seem to scream "srs business". If you find them in a normal filter you wouldn't flinch and say "yep, this guy is taking this game serious and doesn't tolerate non-sense".
However, those are the only 2 posts with "content" you made in like 72 hours. That contrast is fucking scummy as hell.
You are "so serious" and you want "people to stop speculating and scumhunt" when you didn't do shit at all.
How does that make sense?
How does it make sense for you to be so serious about the game in one post.....disappear completely then appear out of nowhere and be so serious about the game as well......and don't do anything constructive?
Can someone tell me how that makes sense?
If you were doing what Drazerk is doing and just not caring at all about anything, I may understand, since not contributing since D2 and barely posting even when you are active are signs of not caring at all and that behaviour is consistent.
But your behaviour isn't consistent at all because of those reasons above. You are acting like you care about the game......but I take it all of us know how that fares.
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I'm not "not contributing", I'm gone. There's a difference. I do my best to contribute while I'm here, and I don't while I'm not. Would you prefer I spam one liners and worthless posts to make it look like I'm here more than I really am?
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Okay, tell me the truth: have you read the thread by now? Or did you just skim it/go to the last post to see what the discussion was about?
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I mean, you are active right now, why aren't you contributing?
Also these are contradictions:
I'm gone
Would you prefer I spam one liners and worthless posts to make it look like I'm here?
You can't be gone and post one-liners...that's the definition of "gone"
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If I don't have time to figure out what's going on in the thread, I don't post. I could come in here and spam up in the ten minutes I've got free during lunch, or I could just not post until I have an hour or two to figure out what's going on in the thread. Which would you prefer, and how does this conversation help you find scum?
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On October 07 2012 10:14 ghost_403 wrote:
If I don't have time to figure out what's going on in the thread, I don't post. I could come in here and spam up in the ten minutes I've got free during lunch, or I could just not post until I have an hour or two to figure out what's going on in the thread. Which would you prefer, and how does this conversation help you find scum?
Even if you can't figure things out, posting helps figure out your behaviour and those little things scum have to fake (quick interactions with people for instance) that townies don't, and it helps a lot figuring out your alignment.
Posting "I'll go read the game and be back in a few hours with thoughts" helps too, instead of just keep it inside you.
If you have 10 minutes free then it doesn't help that much, but at any time you've read the thread it does.
until I have an hour or two to figure out what's going on in the thread
You also haven't done this as far as I'm concerned.
What's going on in the thread ghost?
Either you post that you won't be active (like Hiro) or do what you said you would (read the thread when you have 1-2 free hours and figure out what's going on in the thread).
Also again, your behaviour with those posts of yours isn't consistent, and hypocritical when you ask me to find scum and figure out Drazerk's alignment when you haven't tried to do so yourself all game long; or when the posts you "try" to contribute is a bad response to a speculative post of mine and nothing else.
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So am I a hypocrite or am I scum?
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For instance, it's been like 1 hour between your first and last post. Wasn't that enough to read the thread and "figure things out"?
I mean, there are only 7 pages from D3, it's not that bad.
If you were too lazy/exhausted to read it/read filters I could understand (happens to me a lot)....but you didn't say anything about it so I can't assume you were, specially with your outburst of "if I have 10 free minutes I can only post one-liners, but if I have 1 or 2 free hours I'm super-contribution-machine and try to figure things out and shit".
tl;dr: Don't make up excuses ghost, do something. At least react to what has been said
Maybe I should just drop this.
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On October 07 2012 10:32 ghost_403 wrote:
So am I a hypocrite or am I scum?
Hypocrite certainly. You can be both you know.
I'm leaning on the scum side, at least as long as you show complete disinterest in the game, combined with all the shit you did/didn't do in the past.
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ghost: since you're here, respond to my post about you being Black Mesa?
Also any reads at all? You haven't given an opinion on anything except calling gonzaw's one post terrible, but even that you didn't call him scum.
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On October 07 2012 09:58 Drazerk wrote:
Sure Kei and then you lose because S+B was scum
If S&B is scum at this point, I'll fucking eat my hat. And post pictures of it.
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On October 07 2012 10:48 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2012 09:58 Drazerk wrote:
Sure Kei and then you lose because S+B was scum If S&B is scum at this point, I'll fucking eat my hat. And post pictures of it.
EBWOP: More to the point, I'll rage at GreyMist for lying in my role PM, *THEN* I'll eat my hat.
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