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Newhill
Profile Joined June 2012
Norway2 Posts
February 01 2013 22:37 GMT
#10361
Roger
Otto von Bismarck
Profile Joined February 2013
United States2 Posts
February 02 2013 04:28 GMT
#10362
Hokay
I Love You. Let's Light Ourselves On Fire.
Mad-Hatter
Profile Joined February 2013
1 Post
February 02 2013 06:25 GMT
#10363
For scouting when there are three possible spawn locations for your opponent shouldn't you first randomly pick a spawn location where you think the other player is, scout one of the others at random then if they aren't there assume it is the third one and check that. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
32
Profile Joined February 2010
United States163 Posts
February 02 2013 07:20 GMT
#10364
No, because your "host" is not telling you a different location is not the one you were looking for. All you have actually done is checked 1 of 3 spawn locations.
32
Profile Joined February 2010
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 07:25:14
February 02 2013 07:23 GMT
#10365
Wait, I would like to amend that, now I feel stupid. I think that works? OK get it now, but it must be a random selection of the other two, making it impractical on some maps I think.
CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
February 02 2013 23:09 GMT
#10366
Woot! Glad to be part of the site!
The strong live. The weak die
32
Profile Joined February 2010
United States163 Posts
February 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#10367
Now I have thought about it some more. This time I think I have it.
Monty System: starting location is 1, chosen location is 2
opponent spawns at 2:
scout 3, 4, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 3:
scout 3: best outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 4:
scout 3, 4: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4: best outcome at 1/6 probability
So worst at 1/3 probability, middle at 1/3 probability, and best at 1/3 probability, the same as if you just chose to scout the unscouted mains clockwise around the map from your starting position.
Really this was simple, I'm just a stupid. the difference is that in the Monty Hall problem, there is no way to get the car on the first door opened, so you make sure to add that probability to the probability of getting the car on the second door opened. In starcraft you can get the correct "door" on your first try, so there is no indication of where the car may be for the second door. There was also a BW map I never understood called Monty Hall, so maybe someone figured out how to get this thing to work, or maybe it was just reminiscent of the 3 doors in the problem. I don't remember, and I doubt I could figure it out anyway if I took the time to try. BW maps are confusing but they look so nice.
SirColveskey
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3 Posts
February 03 2013 06:40 GMT
#10368
You must construct additional pylons! Or post on this thread. Loved the death threats part
Unoqualunque
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy1 Post
February 03 2013 18:01 GMT
#10369
How do I post? ow....ok... Hi :D
Foloiii
Profile Joined February 2013
France1 Post
February 03 2013 19:10 GMT
#10370
Understood !
Nightcreeper91
Profile Joined February 2013
1 Post
February 03 2013 20:10 GMT
#10371
Right, I got it!
locelo
Profile Joined February 2013
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 15:50:14
February 04 2013 14:41 GMT
#10372
Editing / Deleting

Sorry guys, i did login after search and enter in the correct thread.

Could someone delete this?

Thanks and sorry again.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 04 2013 15:02 GMT
#10373
What the hell is going on here? This isn't the place for talking about probability or suspected hackers.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 04 2013 15:05 GMT
#10374
He probably wanted to post into the hacker thread but didn't realize you get redicted here when registering.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 15:06:54
February 04 2013 15:06 GMT
#10375
When someone registers to post in a thread, it brings them here, and some people dont bother to notice that the thread has changed on them. It leads to the fun game of "find what thread the post was meant for" which sometimes is quite difficult.

Edit: coke too fast
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 04 2013 15:17 GMT
#10376
On February 03 2013 12:10 32 wrote:
Now I have thought about it some more. This time I think I have it.
Monty System: starting location is 1, chosen location is 2
opponent spawns at 2:
scout 3, 4, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 3:
scout 3: best outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 4:
scout 3, 4: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4: best outcome at 1/6 probability
So worst at 1/3 probability, middle at 1/3 probability, and best at 1/3 probability, the same as if you just chose to scout the unscouted mains clockwise around the map from your starting position.
Really this was simple, I'm just a stupid. the difference is that in the Monty Hall problem, there is no way to get the car on the first door opened, so you make sure to add that probability to the probability of getting the car on the second door opened. In starcraft you can get the correct "door" on your first try, so there is no indication of where the car may be for the second door. There was also a BW map I never understood called Monty Hall, so maybe someone figured out how to get this thing to work, or maybe it was just reminiscent of the 3 doors in the problem. I don't remember, and I doubt I could figure it out anyway if I took the time to try. BW maps are confusing but they look so nice.


have either of you figured out what thread this one was meant for? I'm lost.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 15:19:20
February 04 2013 15:18 GMT
#10377
On February 05 2013 00:17 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 12:10 32 wrote:
Now I have thought about it some more. This time I think I have it.
Monty System: starting location is 1, chosen location is 2
opponent spawns at 2:
scout 3, 4, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3, 2: worst outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 3:
scout 3: best outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4, 3: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
opponent spawns at 4:
scout 3, 4: middle outcome at 1/6 probability
scout 4: best outcome at 1/6 probability
So worst at 1/3 probability, middle at 1/3 probability, and best at 1/3 probability, the same as if you just chose to scout the unscouted mains clockwise around the map from your starting position.
Really this was simple, I'm just a stupid. the difference is that in the Monty Hall problem, there is no way to get the car on the first door opened, so you make sure to add that probability to the probability of getting the car on the second door opened. In starcraft you can get the correct "door" on your first try, so there is no indication of where the car may be for the second door. There was also a BW map I never understood called Monty Hall, so maybe someone figured out how to get this thing to work, or maybe it was just reminiscent of the 3 doors in the problem. I don't remember, and I doubt I could figure it out anyway if I took the time to try. BW maps are confusing but they look so nice.


have either of you figured out what thread this one was meant for? I'm lost.

He responded into another post earlier in this thread. Just a few posts above that one.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 04 2013 15:21 GMT
#10378
and where the hell was that one going? There must have been a thread for the first comment, no?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 15:32:56
February 04 2013 15:32 GMT
#10379
Yeah, that I have no idea about. Maybe a strategy topic? Or maybe it's just some weird adbot for wikipedia
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 15:34:54
February 04 2013 15:34 GMT
#10380
Probably some sc2 or bw strat thread where there was a discussion on scouting. Maybe a maps thread too but i would assume the amount of people who join to post in the maps forum is relatively low. Not really worth looking into, although the response to it was amusing.
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