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Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
November 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#981
On November 08 2012 20:34 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:31 Lysanias wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:29 ES.Genie wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:28 Dakure wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:28 Aeceus wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:26 wozzot wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:25 teamamerica wrote:
Yea for Zerg!
1) go cc first vs pool first and take no dmg
2) take almost not damage from random baneling atk on 3rd
3) have zerg atk into 8 seiged tanks
4) have zerg atk again into seiged tanks and planetary fortress
4) lose!

SO FUCKING HARD AMIRITE?

Don't forget the part where Ryung let Life take four bases and did virtually no damage to Life's economy


What should Ryung have done??

Not let Life take 4 bases and do some damage to Life's economy, clearly.

Because that's so easy to do when zerg goes muta/ling...


That's to Life's skill he was always on par with his muta's herassing and taking off dropships, this shows why Life is a top end Zerg.

Or are Muta's OP aswell nowaday's.

I said nothing about balance, just that it is hard for terran to move out and deny bases when someone like Life is going Muta/Ling. What's the problem with that? oO

Jesus, can someone not just talk about the game without being considered a balance whiner? Is that so hard to do for you?


If you recall, Antiga was the map where muta/ling/bling first died. Terran could take a fourth and zerg could not when the stronghold of the middle tanks+pf started pushing and drops killed every expo. And now Life was playing from behind, not a 6queen creep everywhere thing. This game is as close as it can be to pre-queen patch at the era where Antiga was the "terran map". It was the heaven of base denying.
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
Wolfswood
Profile Joined October 2012
United States349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 11:38:32
November 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#982
On November 08 2012 20:34 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:31 Wolfswood wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:29 nojok wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:27 DoeniDon wrote:
Life is so sick, I hope he turns out to be another Mvp and not another 3-month god.

He will be an mvp when he'll kept his race nerfed singlehandedly when all others zeg are losing.
*glances at front page*

err


hes saying MVP got terran nerfed when other terrans around him were all losing.
Ro16 is half zerg so it seems like kind of a silly comparison to make.

rofl worst edit ever
omnipotence...got to get me some of that
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#983
GSL S5 Code S Group H Losers' Match
Vampire vs Baby
Game 1
Map: Bel'shir Vestige

0:00
Vampire spawns in the bottom right
Baby spawns in the top left
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 11:41:48
November 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#984
On November 08 2012 20:36 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:35 Cereb wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:31 Cereb wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:29 ES.Genie wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:28 Dakure wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:28 Aeceus wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:26 wozzot wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:25 teamamerica wrote:
Yea for Zerg!
1) go cc first vs pool first and take no dmg
2) take almost not damage from random baneling atk on 3rd
3) have zerg atk into 8 seiged tanks
4) have zerg atk again into seiged tanks and planetary fortress
4) lose!

SO FUCKING HARD AMIRITE?

Don't forget the part where Ryung let Life take four bases and did virtually no damage to Life's economy


What should Ryung have done??

Not let Life take 4 bases and do some damage to Life's economy, clearly.

Because that's so easy to do when zerg goes muta/ling...




It usually is on Antiga, just not when the Zerg is Life

Antiga really isn't the terrible Z map that people make it out to be anymore, Zergs spread their creep out a lot better and it's a bitch for T to take a 4th




I would be willing to bet you that a majority of pro Zerg still would put this as the very last map they'd play vs terran. But yeah, atleast zergs now have an idea on how to play the map but that doesn't mean that it's not the map they least prefer


Its certainly the best TvZ map in the pool but for some reason the win rates dont reflect that.



Really? That's interesting...could you link me the page ?


Edit: wow this is pretty interesting...According to TLPD, antiga is only terran favored by less than 1 % when there are blue minirals in the middel but by 5,2 - 9,5 % when there is
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 08 2012 11:39 GMT
#985
On November 08 2012 20:34 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:32 gengka wrote:
the game is still very even until the fungals come to play. those fungal pokes here and there had weaken the marines alot thats why in the end the marines are unable to run in and kill the broodlords. they are all in red life plus they need to stim


BUt the thing is --> Ryung was dead when broodlords were morphed. He could not defend his 4th, and he could not unsiege tanks as there were too many banelings, which meant he had to take friendly fire from tanks.

I think the only thing ryung could have done differently, was to push out earlier (before broods), and not sucidie drop units before he moved out. But probably wouldn't haev worked either.


That's like saying Ryung only needed to know everything was going on in detail and play perfect in response xd

Life played pretty derpy all game with his agression and then won ez. Ryung didn't make any real mistake IMHO.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 08 2012 11:39 GMT
#986
On November 08 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:34 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
with Life advancing (total shock amirite?)
the order to pick groups for the ro16
1. DongRaeGu
2. Life
3. PartinG
4. MarineKing


I can see of them trying to pick a terran first. Should balance the groups a bit at least.


DRG will pick Terran 100%.
Life will 95% pick Terran.
Parting is 50/50. Depends on if he lives up to his word and goes for a group of death that he can kill all the Zergs, or if he just picks a Terran.
MKP said he feels most confident in TvT, so he'll probably pick that.

well MKP certainly won't pull a dick MMA move and pick creator, haha
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 11:40 GMT
#987
Youngwha just confirmed Code B for another year.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 08 2012 11:40 GMT
#988
YongHwa T_T Why must he curse you so.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 08 2012 11:40 GMT
#989
On November 08 2012 20:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:34 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
with Life advancing (total shock amirite?)
the order to pick groups for the ro16
1. DongRaeGu
2. Life
3. PartinG
4. MarineKing


I can see of them trying to pick a terran first. Should balance the groups a bit at least.


DRG will pick Terran 100%.
Life will 95% pick Terran.
Parting is 50/50. Depends on if he lives up to his word and goes for a group of death that he can kill all the Zergs, or if he just picks a Terran.
MKP said he feels most confident in TvT, so he'll probably pick that.

well MKP certainly won't pull a dick MMA move and pick creator, haha


I thought MMA picked Yugioh and then said he wanted easiest possible opponent.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 08 2012 11:40 GMT
#990
On November 08 2012 20:40 andaylin wrote:
Youngwha just confirmed Code B for another year.


He's going to become the "Sea" of Sc2
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#991
On November 08 2012 20:40 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:39 opterown wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:34 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
with Life advancing (total shock amirite?)
the order to pick groups for the ro16
1. DongRaeGu
2. Life
3. PartinG
4. MarineKing


I can see of them trying to pick a terran first. Should balance the groups a bit at least.


DRG will pick Terran 100%.
Life will 95% pick Terran.
Parting is 50/50. Depends on if he lives up to his word and goes for a group of death that he can kill all the Zergs, or if he just picks a Terran.
MKP said he feels most confident in TvT, so he'll probably pick that.

well MKP certainly won't pull a dick MMA move and pick creator, haha


I thought MMA picked Yugioh and then said he wanted easiest possible opponent.

He did.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 11:41:12
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#992
Gonna hijack this thread for a question. When are the Code A prelims? Cant find
crack
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#993
On November 08 2012 20:41 Coolhwip wrote:
Gonna hijack this thread for a question. When are the Code A prelims? Cant find

I heard it was Monday?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#994
On November 08 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:34 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
with Life advancing (total shock amirite?)
the order to pick groups for the ro16
1. DongRaeGu
2. Life
3. PartinG
4. MarineKing


I can see of them trying to pick a terran first. Should balance the groups a bit at least.


DRG will pick Terran 100%.
Life will 95% pick Terran.

That makes 195% terran lol. When 50% of round 16 is zerg. Lern math.
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#995
On November 08 2012 20:34 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:32 gengka wrote:
the game is still very even until the fungals come to play. those fungal pokes here and there had weaken the marines alot thats why in the end the marines are unable to run in and kill the broodlords. they are all in red life plus they need to stim


BUt the thing is --> Ryung was dead when broodlords were morphed. He could not defend his 4th, and he could not unsiege tanks as there were too many banelings, which meant he had to take friendly fire from tanks.

I think the only thing ryung could have done differently, was to push out earlier (before broods), and not sucidie drop units before he moved out. But probably wouldn't haev worked either.


yes u are right about that. However its very hard to quickly push out when your opponent has so many banes lings mutas. if they caught you unsieged you are doomed. balance aside life's strategic is really good his lings mutas army is just to delay ryung's attack until his 4th and greater spire running. when he is ready he is bust in and weaken ryung with his banes free up supply and then the broodlords and infestors come in. perfect execution
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#996
On November 08 2012 20:34 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:31 Wolfswood wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:29 nojok wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:27 DoeniDon wrote:
Life is so sick, I hope he turns out to be another Mvp and not another 3-month god.

He will be an mvp when he'll kept his race nerfed singlehandedly when all others zeg are losing.
*glances at front page*

err


hes saying MVP got terran nerfed when other terrans around him were all losing.


Yeah... just no...
All (Korean) Terrans were having a ball vs Zerg.
winrates until the May patch: http://imgur.com/a/5uKDQ
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#997
On November 08 2012 20:39 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:34 Hider wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 gengka wrote:
the game is still very even until the fungals come to play. those fungal pokes here and there had weaken the marines alot thats why in the end the marines are unable to run in and kill the broodlords. they are all in red life plus they need to stim


BUt the thing is --> Ryung was dead when broodlords were morphed. He could not defend his 4th, and he could not unsiege tanks as there were too many banelings, which meant he had to take friendly fire from tanks.

I think the only thing ryung could have done differently, was to push out earlier (before broods), and not sucidie drop units before he moved out. But probably wouldn't haev worked either.


That's like saying Ryung only needed to know everything was going on in detail and play perfect in response xd

Life played pretty derpy all game with his agression and then won ez. Ryung didn't make any real mistake IMHO.

He attacked broodlords up a ramp without vikings.
I say that is a pretty big mistake.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#998
On November 08 2012 20:41 Coolhwip wrote:
Gonna hijack this thread for a question. When are the Code A prelims? Cant find


11th and 12th.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 08 2012 11:42 GMT
#999
On November 08 2012 20:40 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 20:39 opterown wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:34 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
with Life advancing (total shock amirite?)
the order to pick groups for the ro16
1. DongRaeGu
2. Life
3. PartinG
4. MarineKing


I can see of them trying to pick a terran first. Should balance the groups a bit at least.


DRG will pick Terran 100%.
Life will 95% pick Terran.
Parting is 50/50. Depends on if he lives up to his word and goes for a group of death that he can kill all the Zergs, or if he just picks a Terran.
MKP said he feels most confident in TvT, so he'll probably pick that.

well MKP certainly won't pull a dick MMA move and pick creator, haha


I thought MMA picked Yugioh and then said he wanted easiest possible opponent.

exactly, i thought it was a pretty dick move lol
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 08 2012 11:42 GMT
#1000
On November 08 2012 20:41 Coolhwip wrote:
Gonna hijack this thread for a question. When are the Code A prelims? Cant find


This weekend I think
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