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So BH, do you think OO is scum or is your vote pure policy?
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Promethelax
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lol. So BH, do you think OO is scum or is your vote pure policy? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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VisceraEyes
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On May 15 2013 10:00 Oatsmaster wrote: IM AWAKE. Difference in prp and chaoser is that chaoser is just posting some stuff about rayn, but not pushing, but prp is trying to get hiro lynched. /dunked. Rayn, you posted the MOST about me, everyone else you seem to be asking questions and interacting with them. Why not with me? I think im justified in calling me your top scum read, but you never ask me anything  . SnB, why am I scum? VE, elaborate on my 'interesting' list post pls. Well, for one it's a listing with your read of every player in the game. I found that interesting as list posts are largely frowned upon, but as I said, because you were requested to make the list I took it at face value. I disagree with some of your conclusions, but because you limited yourself (mostly) to a sentence each I assumed you would elaborate later. You haven't really, and you haven't done much to get anyone lynched. Frankly the townfeels I got from the list have all but evaporated completely. You should comment on the current discussion of OO vs. Vayne or tell us who else you want to lynch that isn't one of those players and why. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On May 15 2013 08:09 ObviousOne wrote: I don't like it and I think I'll vote to lynch you now that I've reviewed your filter. Nothing in Prplhz filter says scum to me right now. Your point about Kita interaction means precisely nothing. Saying you suck to slOosh is null. Two null points do not a scum read make. This is a staggering fabrication while you yourself remain distanced and full of "logic" but your logic is faulty and a such you are either willfully pushing a bad lynch or you are simply not aware that most players here are friendly with each other and that basic interactions are useful not only to determine alignment but to greet each other when they haven't played together in some time. ##unvote Sinani ##vote VayneAuthority On May 15 2013 08:09 ObviousOne wrote: I don't like it and I think I'll vote to lynch you now that I've reviewed your filter. Nothing in Prplhz filter says scum to me right now. Your point about Kita interaction means precisely nothing. Saying you suck to slOosh is null. Two null points do not a scum read make. This is a staggering fabrication while you yourself remain distanced and full of "logic" but your logic is faulty and a such you are either willfully pushing a bad lynch or you are simply not aware that most players here are friendly with each other and that basic interactions are useful not only to determine alignment but to greet each other when they haven't played together in some time. ##unvote Sinani ##vote VayneAuthority I mean, I agree with some of the points made that Vayne's posting has been quite bad, but if you read into the NMM which apparently you have based on your posting, like Prom mentioned you might realize why he has been posting this way. You still believe that it's enough to lynch him? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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OO you're acting really odd. Even for you. Like the line of questioning where you apparently didn't understand that I was saying sinani should be vigged rather than me expecting him to get modkilled? And then what's with this? On May 15 2013 07:02 ObviousOne wrote: Vayne is the wrong lynch today, VE. See his other ongoing newbie game that we can't talk about and you will see why. On May 15 2013 08:09 ObviousOne wrote: I don't like it and I think I'll vote to lynch you now that I've reviewed your filter. Nothing in Prplhz filter says scum to me right now. Your point about Kita interaction means precisely nothing. Saying you suck to slOosh is null. Two null points do not a scum read make. This is a staggering fabrication while you yourself remain distanced and full of "logic" but your logic is faulty and a such you are either willfully pushing a bad lynch or you are simply not aware that most players here are friendly with each other and that basic interactions are useful not only to determine alignment but to greet each other when they haven't played together in some time. ##unvote Sinani ##vote VayneAuthority I mean, I agree with some of the points made that Vayne's posting has been quite bad, but if you read into the NMM which apparently you have based on your posting, like Prom mentioned you might realize why he has been posting this way. You still believe that it's enough to lynch him? | ||
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grush57
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I think OO is just being his cray cray townie self. Vayne is doing the dick move thing but every single game when that happened that person flipped town. I haven't seen a scum rage ever really. | ||
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Promethelax
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VisceraEyes
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I will move to OO to secure a lynch when the time comes. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On May 15 2013 10:11 Promethelax wrote: VE, can we talk about chaoser for a bit once night hits? I don't want to distract from lynching during crunch lynch time but I'm not sure what to make of him and based on his last post I assume you have enough of a history with him to help me out on this one. Gladly. I've been wondering where that dude went most of this phase. I wouldn't say we have a ton of history, but I've played some games with chaoser and know approximately what he's capable of as both alignments. | ||
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Promethelax
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Blazinghand
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On May 15 2013 10:04 Promethelax wrote: lol. So BH, do you think OO is scum or is your vote pure policy? yes and yes | ||
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Blazinghand
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WaveofShadow
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Promethelax
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VE: thanks, I look forward to it. I too have that problem with a lot of the newer players, having coached them/talked to them on skype frequently it makes it hard to be impartial. Doesn't help that OO looks exactly like my little cousin. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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VisceraEyes
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On May 15 2013 10:14 Promethelax wrote: Why not try to force people to consolidate onto Vayne? You seem pretty sure he is scum and are quick to let his lynch go. Whats going on? Well, 2 things. 1) Vayne's rage reminds me eerily of Tunkeg/Mocsta/insert-butthurt-newb-townie-here. Before he was just kinda laughing my suspicion away, and now he's raging at you, his defender. 2) I came to realize that my read of OO might be biased. I just read his filter with your "consolidated case" in mind (thx btdubz) and frankly I'm not AS confident in my townread as I was before. I still think he's town, but it's been downgraded to "leaning town". Because you seem almost certain of yours, I'm willing to consolidate on your target. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On May 15 2013 10:16 Promethelax wrote: succinct as always my friend. Do you plan on lynching WoS tomorrow no matter the OO flip or will his flip influence your reads? VE: thanks, I look forward to it. I too have that problem with a lot of the newer players, having coached them/talked to them on skype frequently it makes it hard to be impartial. Doesn't help that OO looks exactly like my little cousin. I don't think the OO flip will influence my reads either way. I don't have any association between him and WoS or any anti-association or anything, and tbh even if I did that wouldn't be big enough to sway me either way. I get that OO is making some semi-legit attempts to appear helpful in his final hours here, but (and don't get a big head here WoS) I have had more constructive dialogue with WoS than OO. We lose nothing by lynching OO and have everything to gain. That being said, I have this niggling feeling that OO might flip town, in which case people will be on my ass after with flip WoS tomorrow and he flips scum, since I delayed the WoS flip by a day. Hell, if by some ridiculous circumstance (and this is just for the point of argument) WoS flips town after tomorrow's lynch, I *still* look bad since I'm delaying my "reckoning" by a day. I get that I'm spending all my towncred and goodwill by flipping OO today rather than tomorrow, but it's still the optimal move. I'm sure I will analyze and catch scum and people won't mind that I'm doing this. Over the course of the game, I will be acquitted. But this lynch is necessary. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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I really don't feel good about the lynch choices, probably because I haven't done a great deal of analysis or discussion today outside of the me/BH bullshit and maybe Oats. Since nobody wants Oats to go down I suppose OO would be my next choice but there's still something about being 'forced' to choose between Vayne and OO that I don't like (them being the most likely lynches right now). Maybe the fact that Prom is on it makes me feel a little better in some ways but I dunno. BH you can add this post to my stack of waffles if you want. ##Vote: ObviousOne | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On May 15 2013 10:21 Blazinghand wrote: I don't think the OO flip will influence my reads either way. I don't have any association between him and WoS or any anti-association or anything, and tbh even if I did that wouldn't be big enough to sway me either way. I get that OO is making some semi-legit attempts to appear helpful in his final hours here, but (and don't get a big head here WoS) I have had more constructive dialogue with WoS than OO. We lose nothing by lynching OO and have everything to gain. That being said, I have this niggling feeling that OO might flip town, in which case people will be on my ass after with flip WoS tomorrow and he flips scum, since I delayed the WoS flip by a day. Hell, if by some ridiculous circumstance (and this is just for the point of argument) WoS flips town after tomorrow's lynch, I *still* look bad since I'm delaying my "reckoning" by a day. I get that I'm spending all my towncred and goodwill by flipping OO today rather than tomorrow, but it's still the optimal move. I'm sure I will analyze and catch scum and people won't mind that I'm doing this. Over the course of the game, I will be acquitted. But this lynch is necessary. So....many...things....want to post.....must not derail....consolidation...... | ||
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Promethelax
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On May 15 2013 10:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, 2 things. 1) Vayne's rage reminds me eerily of Tunkeg/Mocsta/insert-butthurt-newb-townie-here. Before he was just kinda laughing my suspicion away, and now he's raging at you, his defender. 2) I came to realize that my read of OO might be biased. I just read his filter with your "consolidated case" in mind (thx btdubz) and frankly I'm not AS confident in my townread as I was before. I still think he's town, but it's been downgraded to "leaning town". Because you seem almost certain of yours, I'm willing to consolidate on your target. Tunkeg is the perfect example of this play. Fuck, why didn't I think of that. I think Vayne can be read as town from his actions in this game by the way. Attacking his defender the way he has seems genuine, if he was scum he'd want someone he knows is town defending him and try to play me AND the whole time he'd be laughing 'cause while I'm calling him bad I also have a backwards read on him. He wouldn't be angry. He'd be superior. I think that is a very important point. Hence the bold. What about that case (welcome) convinces you? What things did you see in OO that are scummy which are not in my case? | ||
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