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On January 31 2013 23:24 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:19 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Gon has given my read, I'm finding him on the townie side of things, he has that comfortable feeling I get from a town hopeless. Have you ever seen a scum say 'I dunno, no one seems scummy to me' or 'I am lurky' those just feel like things a town hopeless.
p H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum. Pretty bad of you to take that as a town tell from him. Other than that, I still have to filter him properly, so no comment. /Acro
That's not what Prome said at all. Read again.
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"I am lurky" feels like a town hopeless
Response:
H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum.
I can, and do, read.
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On January 31 2013 23:27 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Response: Show nested quote +H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum. I can, and do, read.
Then you fail at understanding the point he was putting across. Prome was saying Hopeless was comfortable, casual, loose with it, rather than uptight and using it defensively.
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On January 31 2013 19:59 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 07:06 Nova_Terra wrote:
If there isnt muh additional posting and help made by crossfire and stutters by tomorrow, i will be significantly more worried about those two. Well. Worried? Or not worried? Why?
I currently think that crossfire is more suspicious. His plying an antitown card 1 minute before deadline without saying anything, and then his getting mad seemed very fake agnflagsbfnsisnfnatbf.
On January 31 2013 20:05 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 19:49 Nova_Terra wrote:On January 31 2013 19:23 Clockwork Hydra wrote:On January 31 2013 15:47 Nova_Terra wrote:
Well i was trying to stay relatively null on CH but im having a hard time finding a scum motivation on any part of his last analysis, and its quite similar to the thoughts i was having but was unable to put them down well.
BinonFire makes good points about rockhydra, who would be my 2nd priority for a hydra scum. Just woke up and this post sprang out of the page to me: why were you trying to stay null on me? It sounds like a remarkably strange thing to do. This is a question for Nova and if anybody else answers I will shoot you in the face. Nova, I need you to answer. /Acro Very good question. I've had a variety of vibes from you and not much else, and so i thought it would be better to refrain from making much out of you until i could find some better logic. You seem to know why it's a good question. Why?
Cause around 10 seconds after i made the post i wondered if anyone was gonna ask me about that.
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Since you understand this marv I was hoping you would say it, why have you opted out of giving hope a town read on his meta?
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EBWOP: also stutters gives me townie vibrs even though his play isnt at all helpful to town. Dunno.
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On January 31 2013 23:34 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Since you understand this marv I was hoping you would say it, why have you opted out of giving hope a town read on his meta?
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Because I wasn't particularly confident in it, but I understand what you're saying. Two different things my friend.
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On January 31 2013 23:28 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:27 Clockwork Hydra wrote:"I am lurky" feels like a town hopeless Response: H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum. I can, and do, read. Then you fail at understanding the point he was putting across. Prome was saying Hopeless was comfortable, casual, loose with it, rather than uptight and using it defensively.
I wouldn't fail, if Prom would actually say what he means, rather than making us guess about whether he means the content or the form of stuff he quotes. Anyway, I've decided that before filtering Rock and AS, I should take a better look at you. I went with an early gut read and left you in the town corner, but have not ever taken a stab at actually looking at your filter.
Flooding the thread will not stop me from filtering you. I've played with Xatalos!
/Acro
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Why didn't you clarify it in that case nova? It was four hours between you wondering if anyone would ask and someone asking.
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So anyway, do we buy that Crossfire didn't put his mana towards Minds Aglow because he's suspicious of CH and his zombies?
Does the lack of mana from Crossfire hurt town in any significant way?
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Before everyone gets too worked up about Deathrite Shaman, yes it can do 2 damage but it can also do other things.
If he does 2 damage he's scum. If he doesn't, well, I'll have to run analysis tonight.
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Its weird that everyone is jumping on Xfire for playing deathrite when other people have more pressing threats. He doesn't have the mana to use it today. So we make him tap out tomorrow before combat phase or we kill him.
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On January 31 2013 23:33 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 19:59 Clockwork Hydra wrote:On January 30 2013 07:06 Nova_Terra wrote:
If there isnt muh additional posting and help made by crossfire and stutters by tomorrow, i will be significantly more worried about those two. Well. Worried? Or not worried? Why? I currently think that crossfire is more suspicious. His plying an antitown card 1 minute before deadline without saying anything, and then his getting mad seemed very fake agnflagsbfnsisnfnatbf. Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 20:05 Clockwork Hydra wrote:On January 31 2013 19:49 Nova_Terra wrote:On January 31 2013 19:23 Clockwork Hydra wrote:On January 31 2013 15:47 Nova_Terra wrote:
Well i was trying to stay relatively null on CH but im having a hard time finding a scum motivation on any part of his last analysis, and its quite similar to the thoughts i was having but was unable to put them down well.
BinonFire makes good points about rockhydra, who would be my 2nd priority for a hydra scum. Just woke up and this post sprang out of the page to me: why were you trying to stay null on me? It sounds like a remarkably strange thing to do. This is a question for Nova and if anybody else answers I will shoot you in the face. Nova, I need you to answer. /Acro Very good question. I've had a variety of vibes from you and not much else, and so i thought it would be better to refrain from making much out of you until i could find some better logic. You seem to know why it's a good question. Why? Cause around 10 seconds after i made the post i wondered if anyone was gonna ask me about that.
You are avoiding actually answering the question. But it's okay. I guess you weren't merely using that shit to buddy up to me. Suck already ran interference for you anyway (which is not particularly indicative of alignment, just irritating).
I don't agree with you that Xfire's MTG play is indicative of alignment at all. I think his timing might be funky, but his DECK cannot be indicative of alignment. His subsequent USE of that creature will be telling, but I don't see him playing it (without knowing exactly what else he has in his hand and how his deck is supposed to work) as saying anything.
Just as our discarding of Larry's Disk says NOTHING about our alignment and anybody trying to read shit into it is wrong (not that I am worried about you thinking I'm town because of it, it's just fucking stupid to use THAT of all things to think so).
Your idea of what is indicative of alignment has so far been decidedly odd. I have seen you play before and I was under the impression you usually reason things out better than you have so far. I am not sure about you and I'll be honest, we probably won't attack you, because Dandel had the impression earlier that you're town (although that might have changed since yesterday) However, you are rapidly scoring points in my scumometer.
/Acro
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On January 31 2013 23:44 Aperture Science wrote:
Before everyone gets too worked up about Deathrite Shaman, yes it can do 2 damage but it can also do other things.
If he does 2 damage he's scum. If he doesn't, well, I'll have to run analysis tonight.
I would value your opinion before the attack phase ends. So far you have said shit about Bin, which has not convinced me he's scum. Other than that, I know very little about what you think about anybody. Please do Xfire and/or Suck.
/Acro
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On January 31 2013 23:50 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 23:44 Aperture Science wrote:
Before everyone gets too worked up about Deathrite Shaman, yes it can do 2 damage but it can also do other things.
If he does 2 damage he's scum. If he doesn't, well, I'll have to run analysis tonight. I would value your opinion before the attack phase ends. So far you have said shit about Bin, which has not convinced me he's scum. Other than that, I know very little about what you think about anybody. Please do Xfire and/or Suck. /Acro
I already said I'm going to do Xfire and Nova. But it will have to wait until I get home from work.
Also, unrelated, GreY is almost back from Italy 
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On January 31 2013 23:47 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Just as our discarding of Larry's Disk says NOTHING about our alignment and anybody trying to read shit into it is wrong (not that I am worried about you thinking I'm town because of it, it's just fucking stupid to use THAT of all things to think so).
/Acro
I'm so sorry 
I still think its slightly townie.. although you could have 2 more in your hand of course :D
I agree though that the shaman is not indicative until it is used. Gotta play with the cards you are dealt.
The timing of it all is still suspicious though.
/zebezt
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On January 31 2013 17:43 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Hmm, I guess he could have kept it as scum (just in case, for later), and not discard it. But he'd have 1 less zombie I think.
Anyways, going to bed.
Prome, check the QT when you get back, I have something "Interesting" to tell you, hehehe
I'd really like some thoughts on Cross's behaviour, both at the end of the main phase (casting something right at the last minute), and after (going apeshit against me, then cooling down and apologizing).
/G
I think I saw someone ask my thoughts on Cross in general so I'll talk about that and what you're asking.
As someone who didn't play MtG Mini I, I felt similar to X in wanting a summary, however I didn't voice it (I figured if I said something really dumb, people would point it out). I don't find that nearly as scummy as a few others have because rereading an entire game is a daunting task, especially when you're not looking for something in particular. Lazy, yes. Scum, I'm not so sure.
The post about ThePosters plan is where I started getting suspicious. At first I wasnt too suspicious because if he doesn't understand MtG, he might have misunderstood the mechanics but at least he was scumhunting and found something suspicious. Until it got explained and we're back to zero contribution towards finding scummers.
Going to skip his defending himself since what he said makes sense, but it'd be what he would say if he was town or scum. What he says in regards to scumhunting in that post actually was a decent post that I agreed with a lot of. What really concerned me about it (I can definitely relate to the low amount of time to play) is that despite seeming convinced of COn's guilt he never attacks CH again or discusses anything with the town to prove his innocence/work with us, despite the higher emphasis on teamwork in this. When I am on a tight schedule, I have two focuses. If I have a read I'm confident about it is getting them lynched, if I don't it is doing whatever I can to work with the town to convince them off my innocence. X doesn't do either of these. Instead of discussing what to do with his mana. Because he's posted so little it's hard to quantify, but it appears he's in it for himself and is hiding something. The emotional part I'm not so sure of how scummy that is, but to not discuss anything in the thread into dropping his mana on two creatures worries me. I need to check his past games, but when I replaced into whose line he was calm and although he didn't post a lot, he gave reasons and was transparent with his actions. This feels incredibly different.
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Also, without knowing his deck, although I do think he's scum, just playing a deathrite isn't scummy. If he is town he's getting damage on the table (through the melee) and possibly a mana if needed. If he starts dropping 2 damage or spending all his mana to heal then we deal with it, but in the meantime I think everyone taking two damage to confirm a scum is totally worth it.
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Also, are there any objections to me dropping howling mine tomorrow? It won't work for us until d3, but if you guys have a town read on me (enough to ensure I won't die tomorrow) I can forgo a 1/1 tomorrow in exchange for it. Might have better options depending on what I top deck so this isn't 100%, but at current this is the best contribution I can do in terms of magic plays.
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Please PM me the cards you wish to discard at end of turn, or I will do so at random.
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