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On October 03 2011 01:17 Sevryn wrote:
The case on Curu is pretty shitty now that i look on it with fresh eyes it only has any weight if you guarantee that palmar was bussed and the evidence that he was bussed really isnt that compelling. If incog flips scum we need to look at NotChezinu for making a giant distraction case.
##unvote
##vote NotChezinu
Please hang this guy tmoro everyone.
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Hey all, I'm pretty embarrassed to have been playing so badly. I really can't say that I've been productive for town and this vote swing really is dumb.
I'll be trying to clear my head a little so I can play better from here on out.
If anyone wishes to contact me you may do so via PMs and I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have
If you're mute just ask here.
On October 03 2011 01:17 Sevryn wrote:
The case on Curu is pretty shitty now that i look on it with fresh eyes it only has any weight if you guarantee that palmar was bussed and the evidence that he was bussed really isnt that compelling. If incog flips scum we need to look at NotChezinu for making a giant distraction case.
##unvote
##vote NotChezinu
If you're in the same boat as I am, Sevryn, you should consider things a bit more before making a reflex vote. I voted Curu based on the 16-24 hours of PMs I had with NC and Incog anda few hours of prodding Curu and Mig.
I didn't like how Curu emphasized being "100% confirmed townie" (I don't think you can become confirmed by the mod in the way he did) and I also found it extremely weird that Palmar would just roll over and die. Then ofc I didn't like how easy the incognito lynch was, for a good player. This led me to believe Incog was town.
A whole bunch of things add up like this. If Incog flips town though, who do we go after next? We haven't at all established that in the thread and it's disturbing how few people are willing to think beyond this lynch.
If Incog flips scum that's great, it was surprisingly easy.
(also I think I understand what Curu meant now by saying that if Incog is scum we'll have to clean up the thread after)
##unvote Curu
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Alright well here's something interesting:
Incognito and NotChezinu both PMed me asking me how I felt about lynching jcarl. NotChez actually delayed posting his case on me until I told him point blank I would rather lynch Incognito than jcarlson. I am under the suspicion that if I were to express interest in lynching jcarl rather than Incog today the case would have been made by both of them against jcarl not me. If NotChez thought I was Mafia he had no reason to delay posting the case on me (all the info he presents was already out in the open for like 8 hours before I told him I am voting Incognito), instead he waited until after I told him I am going for Incognito not jcarl.
NotChez bases a huge part around how I went from "I'm not sure on Incog" to "let's lynch Incog" conveniently leaving out the PMs I sent him explaining:
He is now trying to convince Mig that I am Mafia trying to manipulate Mig because Mig won't release our convos to him. I honestly can't see a Town Incog doing this.
Plus Kenpachi actually did an analysis on him. A real one. The only time I have ever seen Kenpachi do analysis is when he is scum busing another scum.
Original Message From NotChezinu:
why?
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Original Message From Curu:
I think Incognito would be my choice today.
There's also other reasons I became more sold on Incognito but I'm not releasing that information.
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After some deliberation with anonymous parties and research, I feel that Incog is more likely to be scum than Curu is. While I still find it difficult to believe that this would be Incog's scum play, go look through his posts in PYP insane as I was told to do. He was a very obvious town scum hunter. He was being immensely helpful to town and detrimental to the scum team.
Incog's play this game has been far from his town play.
##vote Incognito
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On October 03 2011 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
After some deliberation with anonymous parties and research, I feel that Incog is more likely to be scum than Curu is. While I still find it difficult to believe that this would be Incog's scum play, go look through his posts in PYP insane as I was told to do. He was a very obvious town scum hunter. He was being immensely helpful to town and detrimental to the scum team.
Incog's play this game has been far from his town play.
##vote Incognito
Kill, kill, kill on command...
Incog hasn´t even tried to make a token defence, no posts since voting after NotChezinu dropped his case on Curu. That´s 17 hours ago. Either he´s gone or given up.
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Yea I am very very suspicious of both NC and Incognito. I mean they went through this huge effort to make that giant case but they don't support it at all? They don't respond to any of the points brought against it? Feels a lot like giving up to me. Although there is still 3 hours before lynch.
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I don't like how both DropBear and Errorandorr are talking about Incognito as a really good player with expectations. Just judge his play in this game, please.
My opinion of it is that it has been really crappy. I'm voting for him.
WBG why does the post-lynch need to be established in the thread? Look at all that was established during night 1. What happened to all of that?
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IIRC night 1 established we should kill Incog, no?
I don't know what the purpose of your question is. Maybe this would be something that is more productive if taken to PMs.
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On October 03 2011 04:13 Scamp wrote:
I don't like how both DropBear and Errorandorr are talking about Incognito as a really good player with expectations. Just judge his play in this game, please.
My opinion of it is that it has been really crappy. I'm voting for him.
WBG why does the post-lynch need to be established in the thread? Look at all that was established during night 1. What happened to all of that?
Why on earth would I do that? Its additional information that would be stupid to ignore.
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Finally Incognito is at least right on the large number of players that simply aren't posting much in this thread. I don't know if things are awesome in PM land but it's utter stupidity for people to live there. PMs are only a powerful tool if you can discuss things without the mafia knowing, and you're sure of that.
Of all the people that have posted very little so far I think DropBear is by far the most suspicious player. All he did day 1 was post a poem, attack Sevrn, and he even defended Palmar a little bit. He hasn't posted at all during night 1 or day 2 so far. How many of you remembered that he was still playing?
Also could you explain, how did you get from the bolded part to "Incogs play is crappy I will vote for him"? You where non commital and suddenly feel like squeezing a vote for Incognito in there out of thin air? I thought DP is the most supicious guy , what happened to that?
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United States4714 Posts
30 min until lynch and NC/Incognito still not around. Lynch looks pretty good. I would expect Incognito to at least come in and give us his read if he were town.
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Incog isn´t posting anywhere else either, not that he ever posts outside the Mafia forum.
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kitaman27
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![[image loading]](http://www.rambase.ro/site/system/files/images/tf2_2fort_intelligence_briefcase.preview.jpg)
Night Two
Incognito had infiltrated the enemy command center. In front of him was the enemy intelligence briefcase containing the identities of every role in the game. He glanced over the list, with a smirk on his face. Returning to headquarters alive would surely ensure victory for his team. Dashing towards the exit, he encountered two armed guards, accompanied by a sentry. Frantically, he searched for another way out. The sewers! Surely they would lead to his freedom. After twisting and turning through the maze of pipes, he finally saw the light. Only a short swim stood between him and allied territory. When across, he stumbled up the stairs, screaming that he had a top secret message to deliver. Mission accomplished.
Nearby, tnkted was juggling his bombs and blew the duo to smithereens.
+ Show Spoiler +Incognito the BLU Drunk Demoman has been lynched.
tnkted the BLU Drunk Demoman has been modkilled.
You have 24 hours to submit your night actions. Please remember to send them to both Kurumi and myself.
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That doesn't make sense. I thought we were on gravelpit, not 2Fort. There are no sewers in gravelpit.
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That´s just great, TWO Townies. Incog and tnkted, what the fuck?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Map changed. You must have disconnected.
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Why did incog not even show up to defend himself whatsoever? Or at least contribute with some reads before dying. Really really poor effort.
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