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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#881
Do you have any town reads?

Any thoughts on any discussion, people are retarded, or the such?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2013 02:01 GMT
#882
Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games

Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#883
Sno, why is ET town?

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
October 18 2013 02:03 GMT
#884
Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours.

@pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes.

Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least.

On October 18 2013 01:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh i forgot something.
EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got?

-rayn

This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe.


Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him.

Will make deeper analysis when I'm back.

##Vote: Onegu
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 18 2013 02:03 GMT
#885
On October 18 2013 11:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games

Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho.

Don't tell me you are going to join large games and then only start playing in the end? that only works for the Kushm4sta.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
October 18 2013 02:06 GMT
#886
EBWOP: My link to pandain's post is mislinked up there, here it is again
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
October 18 2013 02:12 GMT
#887
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Why has no one commented on my Onegu case?
##Vote: Onegu

Specifically, I'd like to hear Palmar and Toad's thoughts.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 18 2013 02:13 GMT
#888
Why would a competitive player like you claim blue half past D1 ET?

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
October 18 2013 02:17 GMT
#889
On October 18 2013 11:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why would a competitive player like you claim blue half past D1 ET?

-rayn

I'm utilizing my self control so I don't just flame you endlessly, but it's difficult. My statement that it is likely this game has lots of roles because it is a theme game, a Harry Potter one no less, does not indicate nor deny my status as a blue. Stop the WIFOM.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 18 2013 02:20 GMT
#890
@rayn: see the post below yours. He's thinking and posting. Obviously not confirmed town but "I'm not lynching this guy" read or w/e. Also go away.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 18 2013 02:27 GMT
#891
On October 18 2013 10:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So HF (or anyone else) what do you make of Cephiro making one post here and 7 posts in our house QT explaining why he has not posted or why he posted what he did or what he is about to post next?

-rayn


I have no idea about his meta, what he posted made sense though but it has most definitely not vindicated himself from a potential lynch. He is one of the people that I want to hear more from. Applying pressure to people where it's needed and such, otherwise he'll go right back to where he was before.

On October 18 2013 10:17 Grackaroni wrote:
This is how I view your scum reads Stutters/Palmar/Sn0 Man:
Lurker 1, Lurker 2 and Lurker 3

Sn0 Man I have no clue.

Stutters I don't like because he has 2 posts, 1 defending Palmar for genuine frustration. (What frustration??) and another saying that he's not scum because his play would look more like his town meta (it normally doesn't) but I don't know if that makes him scum.

Palmar I like lynching because he enjoys scumhunting, not being scum and he doesn't care about this game. I would think if this was his first town game in a while he would have more enthusiasm to play.



If you have better ideas for a lynch, I'm all ears. Lurkers will be lurkers and you will not discover anything about them because of it, they will forever remain in the darkness until they are lynched or contribute - which by then could be too late.


On October 18 2013 10:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well.

Anybody who thinks storrzerg's arguments have merit aren't reading I dont think. Mostly because storrzerg doesn't have arguments. Its literally "I think sno's scum who is with me? *biblethump*" recently spiced up with "well he's now afk certain scum" or something.

Wish I had good thoughts on who is actually scum instead of dumb. I could lynch palmar maybe. I'll be around for a bit maybe tonight and the 6 hours preceeding the lynch.


Welcome back. While storr is definitely making the most biased tunnely cases I've seen, they made sense because of your lack of activity, so you weren't helping yourself. What are your takes on things? What about the 2 other lynchable players I mentioned (Palmar and stutters?) I know you said you could lynch palmar but what would YOUR reasons be? You also mentioned your townreads being: LA/Toad/ET/SS. What makes the others (you've explained ET now, towny)?







raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 18 2013 02:29 GMT
#892
EchelonTee i agree on Onegu being sketchy as hell. I don't like his multiple apologies. Right now i want to pressure Cephiro into posting something that's not 90% fluff. Onegu is a good candidate for a lynch.

This is about Ceph i wrote in our house QT:
The problem with Cephiro is that he is not interested in finding mafia. He is more interested in explaining himself. This is something that i associate with scum. Everything said about him could be debunked by him posting in thread and finding scum instead of him explaining his actions to us here. This is something i have not seen him do as town, and i have seen him do this as scum. I hope i am being clear enough.

Does someone disagree with me on this?

Meta on Sn0 suggests town.

ET one question; You seem to be angry? Why?

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 18 2013 02:41 GMT
#893
@ET: Your case relied upon him apologising a lot, however, all you have to do is check the TL mafia database and look at his previous games.

I have checked almost all of them and then did a ctrl+f search for "sorry", it appears in EVERY game many times. So I do not think it is alignment indicative for Onegu, especially to base a whole case off of.

+ Show Spoiler [Onegu] +
Newbie Mini Mafia XLII Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII Mafia Tracker Lynched Day 3
Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 3
Nuclear Winter Mafia Town Immune One Endgamed Day 5
A Bluelightz Mafia The Attack Mafia Vigilante Survived Day 4
GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
Desert Mini Mafia Mafia Conditional Vigilante Survived Night 5
Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Town Dog Killed Night 3


However, since that case, Onegu has indeed not posted much and so I'll probably add him to my Palmar/Stutters/Sn0 lynchables for now.


What I do actually want to point out though is:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours.

@pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes.

Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least.

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 01:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh i forgot something.
EchelonTree - Why makes you say this game is heavily roled? Much scum roles you guys got?

-rayn

This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe.


Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him.

Will make deeper analysis when I'm back.

##Vote: Onegu


Nice scum/town slip.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 18 2013 02:48 GMT
#894
Rayn, for Ceph, he did both in his 1 post. He explained and pointed out targets that he thought were scum. Isn't that just a confusion of the two traits you said he displayed as both factions?

More importantly, has he been active in the QT since his big post?
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#895
On October 18 2013 11:48 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn, for Ceph, he did both in his 1 post. He explained and pointed out targets that he thought were scum. Isn't that just a confusion of the two traits you said he displayed as both factions?

More importantly, has he been active in the QT since his big post?

Explained what he posted and why he posted it his reads -- elaborated a bit more on some oh his reads. like wtf, why not post in thread?
Then he told why he will not post for a while and elaborated a bit on reads on Holy/Skan. again wtf, why not post that in thread?

Cephiro's posting seems far more restricted and does not feel genuine in comparsion to Aperture.

-rayn
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 18 2013 03:06 GMT
#896
That is properly strange, he has no idea if scum are in his QT or not, there are only a few players in there compared to the thread. Why would he elaborate to just you guys? That either portrays that he is scum and is confident that none of you are and so can freely speak about feels or .........? Can't think of any other reason at all.

Also, why only elaborate on a few other reads? He had a whole list of other ones (including you in there) that he said he would mention at another time.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:10 GMT
#897
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote:

Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him.

Will make deeper analysis when I'm back.

##Vote: Onegu

this is what i thought.. but then i read his game in aperture (town) and his game in desert (scum) and he plays almost invertedly
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:12 GMT
#898
i got ninja'd by my lack of reading lol... if its any benefit i posted those thoughts before HF in the QT
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 18 2013 03:12 GMT
#899
(ps hi grack ^)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 18 2013 03:15 GMT
#900
Mattchew:

1. When do you plan to start contributing more?

2. What differentiates your town play from scum play?

3. Who are your town reads?

4. Is there anyone you find suspicious now, even if you're not sure.

You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue.
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