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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 08 2012 01:08 GMT
#841
On January 08 2012 09:58 Jackal58 wrote:
Oh cool. RoL has some plan. We're all fucking saved.


hey, do something useful.
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 08 2012 01:12 GMT
#842
Ok guys i'm gonna head to the gym, then grab a bite to eat. I'm rather dissapointed and confused that Erandorr didn't flip scum. I'm sure he doesn't mind being dead though he was barely playing this game ;_;

RoL you better be pulling unicorns out of your ass
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 08 2012 01:13 GMT
#843
On January 08 2012 10:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 09:58 Jackal58 wrote:
Oh cool. RoL has some plan. We're all fucking saved.


hey, do something useful.

Die scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#844
Ahhh! My work was way longer than It was supposed to be. D: I missed the vote!
Shame that Erandorr flipped town, but I guess knowing that is better than knowing nothing about him except that he doesn't post much.

I'll be here for another few hours, and I'll try to contribute as much as I can.
Friendship is Magic!
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 01:44 GMT
#845
Starting with some reads on current suspects.
Friendship is Magic!
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#846
So, the experienced player obviously know how to play town (duh, they're experienced). They know how to be as helpful to the town as possible. Taking from Ver's guide(?) to town play:Link here (clicky)

+ Show Spoiler +
There are three main goals for the town on day 1 in a standard game:
1) Get useful information (often achieved via point 2)
2) Create an ideal atmosphere (will go over this in detail in town guide)
3) Figure out your plans/direction


The obvious way to analyze the situation would be to take the current players in suspicion and see if they are trying to achieve the above goals.:

risk.nuke: Filter (clicky)
1) Get Information -- I hate to make a meta argument, but I feel like it's necessary here. When I played with risk in Election, he spent much of Day 1 jabbing at other players and trying to squeeze info out of them. I feel like he isn't doing this so much now. Many of his posts have been reactions to the poking of others, and he's offered little analysis of his own. His play in this regard doesn't look very towney to me.

2) Create an atmosphere -- This goal is linked with the previous one. The best atmosphere for town is one where they can get as much information as possible. I feel like risk is falling short here too. He hasn't been offering many points for discussion, and his reactionary posting has most other townies snapping at him.

3) Figure out plans -- This is a tough one. There really haven't been any plans put forth by anyone, just some bandwagons and a lot of finger pointing. risk has been doing just about as much of this as everyone else.

Risk's play is looking a bit scummy to me. He hasn't been offering much solid analysis, and he fans the flames of the arguments in the thread. We definitely need to pressure him some more tomorrow.

More coming soon!
Friendship is Magic!
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#847
Palmar:Filter (clicky)
1) Get Information -- Palmar has been pretty active in this goal. He's been putting forth a lots of questions (even if no one answers them). He also pressured Bluelightz for a good while, trying to get an actual response out of him. He's also been putting lots of pressure on Wiggles, but this was mostly in response to Wiggles' accusation of him. I'd like to see a bit more justification out of him though.

2) Create an Atmosphere -- Palmar has been acting pretty town here too. He's been answering questions, and in turn posing many more. His posting hasn't been very reactionary, and for the most part, he's been trying to keep the town discussing relevant subjects.

3) Figure out Plans -- As I said in the risk.nuke analysis, there's hasn't been much of this in this game. Palmar is one of the closest to actually doing this. He's been trying to keep discussion relevant, and I guess this eventually leads to plans.

Palmar is looking like a townie to me, but don't stop watching him.
Friendship is Magic!
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
January 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#848
Anyone else on?
Friendship is Magic!
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#849
I am.

I haven't read anything since last time I was on, except that Erandorr was lynched. Did Zona post the flip or are we still waiting? I'm drunk as hell.

Also, Spaackle/Palmar scumbuddies imo. Don't ask me to elaborate on it RIGHT now, I can't.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 08 2012 03:00 GMT
#850
@Zeph:

Erandorr Flipped VT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603&currentpage=41#814
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 03:22:12
January 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#851
sry forgot zonas rules. gg
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 08 2012 04:03 GMT
#852
Now that Responsibility is no longer using ZBot, I can remove all the older code - ZBot will now check every 3 minutes, not 5 or 6. Even if another host asks to use ZBot at the same time that should not change.

Q&A has been updated with new questions and answers.

For those of you signing up for other games, keep in mind the rule I added in response to the Steamship/47 fiasco. Just show me an instance in the past where you played successful in multiple games without slacking and I'll say yes. If you have just a handful or two of posts in this game so far though, that's not a good sign to me.

A warning for Erandorr for posting after death.
Since it is possible to flip ??? in this game, this rule's importance is even greater. If anyone posts after death after flipping ???, even a single post will warrant more than just a warning.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 08 2012 04:44 GMT
#853
Hmm, should have stayed on Tyrran I guess. Ah well, based on his effort so far in this game/in election mafia, nothing of value was lost (at least not beyond the worth of another warm body).

I'm still interested in Tyrran as a lynch target, and I would like to hear more people's opinions of him.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 08 2012 04:54 GMT
#854
Alright. Even drunken than before. fuck backspace


So, hjrere is what i thnik. Erandorr case 3was weak, risknuke seemed like a better lynch, but even him I think wasmt good enough. Demon Hunter could try to shoot Palmar tonight IMO. MrWiggles doesnt look too scum eithner. I dont think Tyrran is a good kill, in fact he is playinmg just like his meta.





TYhese are my thoughts. Also, beer is a fucking good drink, you should try it if yopu havent. It's soooooooooo gooooooooood
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 08 2012 04:57 GMT
#855
On January 08 2012 13:54 Zephirdd wrote:
Alright. Even drunken than before. fuck backspace


So, hjrere is what i thnik. Erandorr case 3was weak, risknuke seemed like a better lynch, but even him I think wasmt good enough. Demon Hunter could try to shoot Palmar tonight IMO. MrWiggles doesnt look too scum eithner. I dont think Tyrran is a good kill, in fact he is playinmg just like his meta.





TYhese are my thoughts. Also, beer is a fucking good drink, you should try it if yopu havent. It's soooooooooo gooooooooood

Then who do you think is a good lynch target?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 08 2012 05:26 GMT
#856
Why care about lynch during night


Palmar seems fairly scummy to me since his last post(or few posts fdunno) so he shoul be shot or lynched. also Jackal seesm bad, but i always think that be is sum no matter what game and alignment so meh. dunno im too bdrubnk to think about that.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#857
I was so convinced that they would both flip scum, just different teams, that I thought the switch would produce free information. It did produce information, but unfortunately it was hardly free; I think Jackal looks quite suspicious as he suddenly shows up, hasn't even mentioned erandorr until then and only mentioned risk in passing and is immediately willing to switch to erandorr. If risk flips scum, Jackal is relatively likely to be his team mate.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 08 2012 11:30 GMT
#858
As I said, I tried to hammer erandorr, so I can't really rage about anything but his apathetic and bad play.

Think hard about whatever roles you want to use tonight.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 08 2012 11:31 GMT
#859
Harbingerofdoom's refusal to vote for Risk seems quite bad as well. He is still ignoring risk and not really explaining why.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
January 08 2012 11:57 GMT
#860
So I guess Palmar you are on the other scum team after all? Would explain why you weren't really that keen on Erandorr lynch; you knew he wasn't on your team and that one of the two was thus likely town. Could have at least warned me
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