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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 19:58 GMT
#821
On May 21 2013 04:56 phagga wrote:
decon, can you check multiple people at once if you are right next to them?


If there are multiple people next to me, I get told how many are town. Not who specifically is town.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 19:59 GMT
#822
decon, I'm moving to F6. If you can, move to E6 and check me and Oats at the same time!
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 19:59 GMT
#823
Also diagonal doesn't count, has to be right next to me.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 20:02:55
May 20 2013 20:00 GMT
#824
It is now the resolution period! Please refrain from posting until the day post is up!

Also I will update the OP with relevent info after this daypost, I apologize but I have been very busy.
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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 22:58:22
May 20 2013 20:32 GMT
#825
Day 4

River Song was pissed. Everyone close to her was gone because of these monsters. She wanted to exact her revenge and thought she had with ghost_403's lynch, but he was just a patsy. She needed to find a way to escape and fix everything because things seemed to be heading downhill fast. Running by the light of her bobbing flashlight, she saw a door. She darted towards it and as she reached it, she spun around to check if any Angels were chasing her and fell backwards into the door as she saw an Angel almost on top of her. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
She reached for the door handle while staring at the creature and found the door unlocked. She slowly pushed the door open still staring at the Angel and backed right into the waiting arms of another Angel...



ghost_403 the poor, helpless townie has been lynched!
Zephirdd as River Song was fed upon!



Role PMs: + Show Spoiler +
You are a poor, helpless townie and have nothing but your flashlight. You have no idea where you are or how you got here, but maybe with some help you’ll be able to figure out what is going on and survive this darkness and whatever may be in it...

Your movement speed is [#].


You are River Song, a time traveler who always seems to meet the Doctor in the wrong order; every time you meet him, he gets younger and younger. You are handy with a gun, but only have one shot left. In order to use your one shot though, you must be standing next to the person you wish to kill because it is pitch black and you want to make sure you don’t miss. PM the identifier (A,B, etc.) of someone you’d like to kill to the hosts and if you end your turn next to them, you will shoot them.

Your movement speed is 4.


Day 3 Lynch

ghost_403 (6): [UoN]Sentinel, Zephirdd, phagga, Oatsmaster, deconduo, mkfuba07
Oatsmaster (1): ghost_403

ghost_403 has been lynched! Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake.



It is now Day 4. The lynch will happen in at 20:00 GMT (+00:00). With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch. Remember to send in all actions to both hosts by the lynch.

The link to the game board is below.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDE49k3WlYidFhsN0hmUkZGYzluamVRbU85NzRmcWc&usp=sharing
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 20:38 GMT
#826
Ok, I see decon got the movement through, that's nice. What are the results?

Also Sentinel, why did you not move?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#827
Yeah I got the movement out at the last minute. Couldn't post that I had though as the time was up.

I saw something last night

There is one town next to me.

##Vote Oatsmaster
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#828
There must be an angel near us if I saw something, which is not good. Also Zeph was fed upon, and there was no neck snapping. Maybe scum can only do one or the other?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 21:11 GMT
#829
I just found something. But first, let's view some nice quotes.

On May 16 2013 01:58 Crossfire99 wrote:
I'm going to clarify the movement again because I realized it still might be a little confusing. First, choose what direction you would like to face: forward, backward, left, or right. Then I will perform all movement relative to this new direction.


On May 17 2013 11:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 10:38 Zephirdd wrote:
On May 17 2013 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I moved 3 steps up and looked up.

That makes me B right?


How did you send your PM to the hosts? This is important. Anyone reading this, do not answer.

Oatsmaster, how did you send your PM? How did you want to move?

I sent my PM,
'move 3 steps up and look up.'
I wanted to move here.


On May 17 2013 11:12 Zephirdd wrote:
okay that does NOT make any sense.
here is why:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 01:58 Crossfire99 wrote:
I'm going to clarify the movement again because I realized it still might be a little confusing. First, choose what direction you would like to face: forward, backward, left, or right. Then I will perform all movement relative to this new direction.

As an example. Say if you were piece C and you wanted to move to i4 while facing north. You would say, face backwards, move 2 spaces to the left. That would get you to i4 and facing north during the movement. Does everyone understand?


The way this works is that we had to chose our directions without knowing where we would go. If we could just say "look up" then there is no point in not allowing "look north". What B did was Look right and move three steps forward.

What I think happened is simple. You asked to go up, and the hosts allowed it no problem because you already had prior knowledge of your own handle.

In other words, you just slipped hard. So, unless for some reason you have a role that gives you knowledge of your handle on day 01, I say you are an angel. Simple as that.

Vivax tunnel-vision on you day 1? That's about as standard of a scum bus as possible, ESPECIALLY when a lot of people in the thread had already voiced that you were acting as an annoying/abrasive townie.

##Vote Oatsmaster


On May 17 2013 19:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Hm... odd that Vivax would bus Oats out of the blue like that, but I guess if it weren't for the scumslip Oats would be pretty much above the level of suspicion.

##Vote: Oatsmaster


Yeah yeah, I know, you guys already know all that stuff up there. But do you know what everyone seems to have missed? This little gem down there...


On May 17 2013 06:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I sent face left, 2 right 1 up. Nobody stood still as far as I see, so it must have gone through (I did it right on the deadline).

I don't think anyone turned left, did they? Which would mean I'm player G.


On May 17 2013 06:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I sent face left, 2 right 1 up.


On May 17 2013 06:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 up


Sentinel used the same way to coordinate movements as Oats did. However, noone picked up on it for some reason. Now, why would Sentinel not defend Oats? Why does Sentinel use this as evidence that Oats is scum and vote him for it when he did the very same thing, even stating that Oats would not be suspicous except for this scumslip?

Because he's scum.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#830
Aaaah holy shit. Everything went bad for me today.

First off the reason I didn't move. + Show Spoiler +
I was suntanning on my roof since about 12 PM my time (5:10 currently for me, for reference) and I fell off. Luckily my house has two roofs and I fell from the upper one to the lower one. I got banged up hard, nothing that required medical attention but there was a decent amount of blood and I spent a while cleaning it up.


Second off I was extremely convinced ghost would flip scum. I had a mini heart attack when I saw he was townie.

Luckily I'm still alive and I wrote down a case last night for my next lynch target. I'll update it with the current circumstances and share with you all.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 21:17 GMT
#831
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 20 2013 21:19 GMT
#832
Oh and phagga, the part that gave me a red read on Oats was "I wanted to move here". Once he justified that part, I saw my error.
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 21:24 GMT
#833
your only reaction was this:

On May 17 2013 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Before anything interesting happens with Oats, I'd just like to add as a side-note that I'm not updating the spreadsheet until my next session of analysis. Just in case any of my reads change, it won't be reflected in the May 16 column.

Thank you and good night.


And then the vote. also, it was clear that several people were voting him because he used absolute movements instead of relative. However, you never mentioned that you used only absolute movements as well. Why not?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
May 20 2013 21:25 GMT
#834
Dear god, hope you're alright, sentinel! :o

Phagga, why vote sentinel over oats?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 20 2013 21:31 GMT
#835
Here is the analysis I wrote last night on who I thought was going to be the last remaining angel.

I have been aware of the third scum for some time now. In fact, he was hiding under my nose the third time. The third angel is Deconduo.

I became aware of this shortly before the fferyllt lynch. Look at page 3 of his filter. In order, he implicitly accuses ghost, feryl and oats without offering substantial evidence for any lynch. Actually he did accuse ghost beforehand, but only when he felt it was safe to do so - when I pointed out ghost's slip in accusing vivax and not myself. I thought it was distancing but it still appears to make sense with a towny ghost and a scummy dec. He can soft accuse feryl or oats and incite others to actually push for their lynch, without seeming like a catalyst for a mislynch (of feryl) in the event that either of them flip town. This is a very scummy action.

But this can be construed as an indecisive townie in some way, so we couldn't rule out the possibility that he was in fact, a detective. But then he makes his next mistake - offering absolute zero pro-town information. In fact, he fills the thread with complaints and questions that he could not reach and check Oatsmaster.

On May 19 2013 08:08 deconduo wrote:
Also the sharrant kill doesn't look like it was an angel feeding. If it was, it should say he was sent back in time. Seeing as there was a neck snapped as well, I'd guess that was a 3rd party kill.


This is the only post of the time period that breaks this trend. Note the implications of the third party here - we are not only to hunt the 2 scums but find a third player who may be something like SK. He is distracting from our prime directive at this point. Luckily Zeph steps in as the vig. But this takes the cake:

I suppose his teammate is just bussing him rather than risking his head.


This (as well as the post it was contained in) confirmed my read on deconduo when I was looking at the reasons people were voting for ghost. Deconduo sheeped my case without any constructive remarks to silently align himself behind the mislynch. Using his soft accusations he can quickly sheep any player he previously accused, here being ghost.

And then, he plays dumb to further his standing as detective. By making all these questions, which the mod had already answered, dec keeps implying he is a detective and by extension so is Oats. So why would an actual detective want to waste another valuable night confirming someone he already knows? No, scum deconduo has been clouding up the process of finding scum with questions about a known mechanic in the game. And the hardest part of today has been watching Deconduo dig himself his own grave and say nothing about it until the time is right.


On May 20 2013 10:11 deconduo wrote:
Also BH used his illumination skill and both of us are showing up as human in that as well.


And in the end, he still tries to paint himself green.

This is the plan. We lynch deconduo next night.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 20 2013 21:33 GMT
#836
On May 21 2013 06:24 phagga wrote:
your only reaction was this:

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Before anything interesting happens with Oats, I'd just like to add as a side-note that I'm not updating the spreadsheet until my next session of analysis. Just in case any of my reads change, it won't be reflected in the May 16 column.

Thank you and good night.


And then the vote. also, it was clear that several people were voting him because he used absolute movements instead of relative. However, you never mentioned that you used only absolute movements as well. Why not?


I used relative as well. I turned left, then from that reference frame I moved two right and 1 up. Up being forward.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
May 20 2013 21:34 GMT
#837
And deconduo, how do you feel about oats and sent after phagga's recent post about the "scumslip"?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
May 20 2013 21:51 GMT
#838
You here phagga?
On May 21 2013 06:25 mkfuba07 wrote:
Dear god, hope you're alright, sentinel! :o

Phagga, why vote sentinel over oats?

Never trust a skinny innkeeper
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 21:53 GMT
#839
On May 21 2013 06:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:24 phagga wrote:
your only reaction was this:

On May 17 2013 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Before anything interesting happens with Oats, I'd just like to add as a side-note that I'm not updating the spreadsheet until my next session of analysis. Just in case any of my reads change, it won't be reflected in the May 16 column.

Thank you and good night.


And then the vote. also, it was clear that several people were voting him because he used absolute movements instead of relative. However, you never mentioned that you used only absolute movements as well. Why not?


I used relative as well. I turned left, then from that reference frame I moved two right and 1 up. Up being forward.


This does not make sense.

THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE

If left was relative, how do you know that moving right from your new view angle is not identical with going up? You can't, unless you already knew your position.

Example: you start looking up. Now you give in the new relative movement "face left", which makes you turn your view by 90 degree. This makes you face left on the board as well. From that reference model you say "move two right and 1 up". Problem: Moving right is now the same as moving up.

So either everything was absolute, or you had to have prior knowledge of your position.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#840
ok wait, you DID move exactly the way I just described.

WTF?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
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