EPTcast, toss, throw, kick or roll
Officer we are not casting, tossing, throwing, kicking, OR rolling this football; we are PASSING it!
Weird New Law in LA - Page 4
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
Officer we are not casting, tossing, throwing, kicking, OR rolling this football; we are PASSING it! | ||
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Cirn9
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what silliness | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
The law was already in place. They changed it so that 1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded) 2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion (fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so) | ||
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
On February 11 2012 05:32 Krikkitone wrote: Actually they are Loosening/Changing the law. The law was already in place. They changed it so that 1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded) 2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion (fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so) In the end it doesn't seem like that stupid of an idea, does it? Way to sensationalize something trivial. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On February 11 2012 05:32 Krikkitone wrote: Actually they are Loosening/Changing the law. The law was already in place. They changed it so that 1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded) 2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion (fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so) It's amazing what a little context does to a story. ;=) | ||
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WritersBlock
Canada91 Posts
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NagAfightinG
United Kingdom270 Posts
On February 11 2012 06:17 WritersBlock wrote: I thought this was being put in place because some sick people think its funny to put nails/razors in frisbees and that it was becoming as issue? Maybe I'm confusing this with something else though.. That sounds as dumb as the myth of people putting razors in candy at Halloween. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On February 10 2012 14:15 xtfftc wrote: I hate to be the guy who says it but that's hardly surprising. The culture of making everything (everything but things you pay for in one form or another) forbidden is becoming more and more dominant in the US and the UK. Damn, I was really hoping it wasn't spreading to the UK. That was my contingency plan should stuff get too ass-backwards here. | ||
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g.
Australia123 Posts
lol jks | ||
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Terrix
Germany305 Posts
I mean I understand the dangers of a frisbee hitting somebody in the face (on both the giving and receiving ends of this) but frisbee's are standard to beach activity. You can't make enough laws for people to be careful. Where does it end? No running up stairs law? This is ridiculous. | ||
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codonbyte
United States840 Posts
Ah, good times!  | ||
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nooboon
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MrF
United States320 Posts
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Befree
695 Posts
This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change. The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules. They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop. A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]" Beach director says Frisbees are fine + Show Spoiler + Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach. Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly. That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine. Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard. For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.” The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.” The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.) Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued. “We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said. As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior. Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas. The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions. Posted 2/9/12 After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country. We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads. | ||
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xiaoW
Netherlands284 Posts
it's more like it's updated and improved | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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CptCutter
United Kingdom370 Posts
On February 10 2012 14:10 r.Evo wrote: "Honey, catch that water bottle!" BAMN FINE "Ima throw away that chewing gum paper from right over here!" BAMN FINE "Mom, that kid kicked a coka cola can!" BAMN FINE ...sounds like it's gonna work like that. =D i dont get it... are you talking about littering? because littering should be fine-able... besides, every throws bottles of water to pass them around, cant see them banning it. other than that your sarcasm is crap. | ||
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Scorm
United States104 Posts
The government is wholly incompetent... | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On February 12 2012 03:23 Befree wrote: This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision. This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change. The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules. They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop. A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]" Beach director says Frisbees are fine + Show Spoiler + Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach. Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly. That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine. Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard. For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.” The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.” The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.) Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued. “We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said. As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior. Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas. The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions. Posted 2/9/12 After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country. We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads. Actually, the problem is people posting misleading, often sensationalist (and completely wrong) OPs. That's the problem. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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