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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 11 2014 22:10 GMT
#761
On January 12 2014 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 06:56 Derrida wrote:
Hey all, this is my third mafia game and first PM and first mayor game. You can find my previous games here and here. I was scum in the first one and got killed on Day1, so I’m a terrible scum player. In the second link which is an ongoing game, I am a townie.

Below is the list I’ve made while going through filters to catch-up, I wanted to share it and I will be updating it throughout the game. I am experimenting on it, but in my shadowings and coaching I received, I’ve been told that trying to visualize the connections and reads is very helpful in a mafia game. I will try it out this game. I am hoping that keeping a tab on people’s reads, votes for mayor, and activity fluctuations will make it harder for scum to go unnoticed and pressure them to keep a consistent townie persona, forcing them to slip eventually. Please let me know if I've made a mistake and/or missed any of your reads in my list.

My current mayor candidate is Dr. Helvetica, primarily because I enjoyed reading how seriously he approaches the game. I would like to play a serious game as well, hence the endorsement. I also enjoyed reading through Yamato77’s filter, he is my #2 mayor candidate. I am open to PMs and IRC discussions; though one question, why should one be careful about anonymity on IRC?

+ Show Spoiler +
Inactive players: BloodyC0bbler (1 post, no reads), chinstrap (2 posts, no reads), Bumatlarge (2 posts, no reads), Gumshoe (sub-10 posts, no reads), Captain Obvious (sub-5 posts, no reads), Mkfuba07 (2 posts, no reads), Aquanim (5 posts, no reads),

Marvellosity - 40+ posts, almost all of them 1-2 liners, states that people need to start posting more for him to start analyzing them.
Reads: Suchdoge (town), Captain Obvious (scum)
Yamato77 – 20ish posts, strives to provide reads and analysis, seems like he wants to play actively.
Reads:
Kushm4sta – 20ish posts, active.
Reads: Gumshoe (town), Thrawn (town), Alakaslam (town), Raynpelikoneet (town), justanothertownie (scum), waveofshadow (scum),
Alakaslam – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town)
VisceraEyes – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town),
Koshi – 10ish posts, somewhat inactive.
      Reads: Raynpelikoneet (town).
Dr. Helvetica – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Blazinghand (scum)
WaveofShadow – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Xatalos – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Blazinghand - 20ish posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Just anothertownie – 20ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Thrawn2112 – 20ish posts, almost all one-liners.
      Reads: none(?)
Mocsta – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Alakaslam (scum), Rayn (scum), kush (town), suchdoge (scum)
Suchdoge – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Hopeless1der – sub-10 posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)


My two mayor favorites are also my top two townie reads. I do not have any scum reads based on the filters, and I don't most of the people here anyway, so I can't do much 'meta-reading'.

My filter should indicate a townread on BH too.


Will update, thank you. Do you have any scum reads currently?
#1 Grubby Fan.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 22:19 GMT
#762
I do. I'll share with the class in due time friend.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2014 22:30 GMT
#763
Many questions. I cant quote but I can answer.

Rayn already has votes. DrH deserved a vote as well. If DrH keeps fighting the good fight I might keep my vote there. But I plan to do an IRC/TS session with rayn in 20 hours, might swap then.

I just noticed Mocsta and thrawn trying people to notice them. I am not noticing much atm but if I see something I report it. Otherwise I dont post much and people might think I am scummy. We dont want that.

VE is posting things I dont like. I read his filter and I found it to be suspicious which is extra strange because last time he ran mayor convincingly. WoS same meh filter+ WoS not whiny enough about rolling town again. There isnt much I have on them, just my 2 least likeable players atm.
(Btw I am proly the guy with most town rolls in a row in this game.)

Dont have more reads atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 22:32 GMT
#764
Could you maybe show me the things you don't like and I can tell you what I was/am thinking Koshi? I asked you to quantify "VE/WoS being sneaky" and you said "VE/WoS being sneaky" in response essentially - without quoting the posts you don't like and saying why, just saying "he's said things I don't like" doesn't really tell anyone anything.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#765
Sorry, why are you voting for someone because they "deserve" a vote? That makes no sense. You vote for the strongest candidate in your opinion, not because you think someone 'deserves' a vote.

what the fuck, koshi?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#766
I'm not running for mayor because I don't have the time to spam the thread which is pretty much how I confirm myself as town early - without being "confirmed" town, I can't win because I'm known for being slippery as scum. Me running is a waste of my time and posts.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2014 22:35 GMT
#767
kushm4sta was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-07-12 23:54:33 and had 4750 posts.

Reason:
On January 11 2014 23:02 kushm4sta wrote:
worst op ever.


Worst bump ever.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 11 2014 22:36 GMT
#768
##vote Doctorhelvetica

quick thoughts

1) kush campaign was semi legit but mostly just for the talking. realistically speaking people love derping around and complaining about how nobody has anything to talk about. kush is an okay policy lynch but he's no oatsmaster. (heh)

2) I honestly belive DrH is our best mayor here. the fact that he thought about how to use the hammering power optimally and laid out a plan and defended it should be more than enough of a reason. even if he's scum (plausible, as DrH is pretty sharp; he could have done this to try to win it as scum) he's still written himself into a corner in terms of how he uses the hammering vote. this is subject to change but short of someone claiming mason I don't think it will

3) i omitted certain people from my mass pm, mostly people I was already talking to via pm, but also one or two people I didn't want to talk to. I did the mass pm because I wanted to see how people would react differently to it and gather data. one of the things i was checking for was how quickly people would figure out it was a mass pm (since scum would know instantly as they would be comparing pms in the scum qt). I was not anticipating people discussing the pm in the thread so quickly, so this derailed my plan. I'll figure out something else for finding scum.

4) if you pmed me and I haven't gotten back to you, I'm sorry, pm me again so it shows as unread. thanks!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 22:36 GMT
#769
On January 12 2014 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
kushm4sta was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-07-12 23:54:33 and had 4750 posts.

Reason:
On January 11 2014 23:02 kushm4sta wrote:
worst op ever.


Worst bump ever.

Well that's fantastic. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#770
Who gives a fuck how DrH uses his hammering vote?

That's like a totally irrelevant and bad reason to elect anyone mayor.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2014 22:39 GMT
#771
If you don't like dr h for mayor and don't know where you want to put your vote?

I will make a satisfactory candidate. How?

Pm me or AMA in thread. I am running aside drh; vote me only if you don't like drh for some reason. I support drh.

Begin?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 11 2014 22:39 GMT
#772
So Xatalos here's what i don't get:
    [1]First you have a PM-convo with DrH.
    [2]After this i ask DrH's read on you. He says "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol".
    [3]After this you come back to the thread and make a post on BH, Aquanim, fuba and suchdoge. You even ask me about something we talked about at the time you had your convo with DrH.
    [4]After this DrH forgets half of the people he has PM'd with.
    [5]After this you call him out for his PM's with you.

Here:
On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?


So. First of all. If you really thought his PM's with you were fishy and he was unwilling to cooperate and it's scummy how can you possibly miss the fact that the dude didn't even remember he has been in PM contact with you in the first place? If i had a fishy PM-convo with someone i would bring that up in the first place when i have a chance to do so. Not AFTER he gives a reason to do so by not remembering something. And i certainly would not miss the fact a couple of hours after our PM-convo the guy does not remember me.

Because to me this looks like;
"I PM'd with DrH, cool. I didn't really care about what he says. But now, he gave me a reason to attack him, in fact i can also throw some shit on him because this could be labeled fishy".

So, why are you not paying attention to scummy stuff and why are you not calling it out in the first place possible if it was important?
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 22:40 GMT
#773
So let me get this straight, you think the best reason to vote for DrH is because he promised to use the hammer power well, and that this won't change short of a mason claim?

Yeah, no.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 11 2014 22:41 GMT
#774
thanks yam, i got dis ;p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 22:42 GMT
#775
On January 12 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
thanks yam, i got dis ;p

ninja'd real hard
Writer@WriterYamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2014 22:42 GMT
#776
On January 12 2014 07:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Could you maybe show me the things you don't like and I can tell you what I was/am thinking Koshi? I asked you to quantify "VE/WoS being sneaky" and you said "VE/WoS being sneaky" in response essentially - without quoting the posts you don't like and saying why, just saying "he's said things I don't like" doesn't really tell anyone anything.

VE in LXIII was a boss early D1 and talked about everybody. This game only about the doc. Feels sneaky. Cant be helped.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 22:43 GMT
#777
Well I don't know what to say - different game, different mechanics, different schedules. I've got my suspicions and I'll share them eventually. Just hang tight. YOU DON'T WANNA MISS A MINUTE!!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 11 2014 22:44 GMT
#778
VayneAuthority has replaced kushm4ster

There will be no ban for kushm4ster.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 11 2014 22:44 GMT
#779
that's a great reason though. i maen i guess there's also the "who gets lynched d1" thing
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
January 11 2014 22:45 GMT
#780
well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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