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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:38 GMT
#721
I just quoted the entire conversation. not xatalos, I already told you personally in a pm that none of my pms were very interesting atm so there shouldn't be any mystery, the only two weird things that came up in pms I've either mentioned to you already or mentioned in thread. All that happened is I forgot a mostly meaningless pm line I had late at night while very busy at a social event
RIP Aaliyah
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 11 2014 20:38 GMT
#722
On January 12 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos had a PM convo he quoted in thread with DrH last night (fin time). In the morning i ask DrH what he thinks about Xatalos. His answer is literally "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol". Xatalos - when he comes back to the thread - does not call DrH out for it.

What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later?

Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active.



On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?


I think you're wrong rayn. do you have any other reasons to think xata is scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:40 GMT
#723
You make it sound like we're both pming eachother a lot or have some kind of plan when it was only him pming me to ask two questions: what I thought about bh and if I have any good reads. I forgot VE pmd me too, do you think that's a secret plan also? I'm being transparent about it too, nothing to hide. Ill post any pm log if I'm asked to.
RIP Aaliyah
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2014 20:40 GMT
#724
Take into account human fallibility
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 11 2014 20:41 GMT
#725
I am back.
On January 12 2014 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a bit puzzled JAT. Why do you think i would possibly not want to run for mayor?

No idea. You could think someone else is better suited or have other reasons. Like Marv who doesn't seem to be interested in being mayor.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#726
I think I am missing work, what'd 'y'all thaink?

Man I sleep like a rock
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#727
Not really, no. But that's how you use PM's. You try to see if someone says one thing in thread and another thing in PM's.
Apparently one of them was drunk and the other one lost his train of thought before finishing reading the thread.
Maybe you guys should stick to the thread if you do scummy stuff like this or can't handle remembering what people say in PM's and in thread..
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#728
700000
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 11 2014 20:43 GMT
#729
Oh there was a voting thread. Good thing too.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 20:43 GMT
#730
Rayn grasping its kinda weird...didn't Doc post a log between he and Xata? Or am I misremembering?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:44 GMT
#731
On January 12 2014 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn grasping its kinda weird...didn't Doc post a log between he and Xata? Or am I misremembering?

and what does him posting a log has to do with anything?
table for two on a tv tray
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:47 GMT
#732
On January 12 2014 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, no. But that's how you use PM's. You try to see if someone says one thing in thread and another thing in PM's.
Apparently one of them was drunk and the other one lost his train of thought before finishing reading the thread.
Maybe you guys should stick to the thread if you do scummy stuff like this or can't handle remembering what people say in PM's and in thread..

Maybe you should read the logs then?

On January 12 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos had a PM convo he quoted in thread with DrH last night (fin time). In the morning i ask DrH what he thinks about Xatalos. His answer is literally "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol". Xatalos - when he comes back to the thread - does not call DrH out for it.

What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later?

Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active.


"He quoted in thread".
If Xatalos posted the logs earlier, I missed it completely. But I just posted them a bit ago since he brought it up and I don't want to leave the thread in the dark, even if it is my bad for forgetting about it.

On January 12 2014 04:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
because i forgot. i forgot you were even in this game when i was asked about you later.

anyway here is our pm log
Show nested quote +
I don't agree with the notion of fake activity there, I think you're misdirecting that idea. You can listen to the first tl mafia podcast if you want to hear my thoughts on day 1 policy discussion.

I have very slight reads but they're just nudges. It would be counterproductive to mention them now. When I have time I'd like to pressure those players first. I'm already doing it a little bit in PMs.

Original Message From Xatalos:
I'd be interested to hear that, yes.

Ok then. I'd like to hear more of your stances on players rather than policy though. I realize it's early, but it's relatively easy to fake activity with policy talk, and I'd rather not elect a scum Mayor. Do you have (even slight) player reads yet?

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
There's nothing to discuss about BH, all I did was ask him questions and disagree with his premature lynch choice. I never accused him of anything. If I feel one way about him strongly, you'll know.

There are a lot of ways I've talked about on the podcast as well, I'm not going to type them out on my phone rn but if you need me to tell you ill do so in the morning when I'm on a proper computer.

Original Message From Xatalos:
What about the points I mentioned about BH?

How exactly do you catch scum with policy talk?

Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
I'm busy tonight at Friday night magic. I am PMing marv and I am concerned with his passive nature. I figure when I get home there will be more to consider. Talking about policy is my policy for day 1, it makes people take sides and you can catch scum in serious errors like promethelax in I think LX?

Original Message From Xatalos:
I'm considering you for Mayor, and I kind of like your policy ideas, but you've pretty much only talked about policy so far.

You did mention BH though. You hoped that his true intention is to generate discussion, but did you see Titanic II? There he tunneled a lurker all game and ignored me although I was near-confirmed scum. He was town. I somehow doubt that he has any noble goals in mind currently, town or scum. And it'd be extremely easy to fake a mindless push like that.

Have you PM'd with marv yet? What do you think of his disinterest in becoming Mayor? Does he otherwise feel towny?


i didn't really avoid talking to you seeing as i explained my inactivity and said i'd answer your questions but i forgot about you by the time i got home and you never PM'd me again like if you wanted to get answers from me and feel dissatisfied with my activity or whatever, why not keep hounding me? my feelings on BH and everything have changed since that PM exchange as well.


"What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? " you could read the logs for example. The way you're talking about it makes it seem like I PM'd him or we both made a decision to have a conversation. He PM'd me questions and I answered them, I had pretty much no confidence in my reads at the time because A. it was early B. i didn't have the free time to follow up on my guts since I was busy.

You can scold me if you want for being a forgetful and absent-minded player. I will acknowledge that and it's something I should improve during this game. But there's nothing suspicious about it really. Xatalos PM'd me yesterday and I forgot about it. That's it. There's nothing else to say except boo on me for not being extremely attentive.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:48 GMT
#733
On January 12 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn grasping its kinda weird...didn't Doc post a log between he and Xata? Or am I misremembering?

and what does him posting a log has to do with anything?

where's the secret plan? you say "what the hell are you doing in PMs" like it's some big deal xatalos pm'd me a couple of questions, i answered them, we went back and forth for like ten minutes and then it was over and i forgot about it....so you can't really say i'm trying to hide information and I have no reason to lie about it. it's pollution to just scold me in thread, if you wanna berate me personally for being forgetful then feel free to flame me in pms
RIP Aaliyah
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:49 GMT
#734
Let me make a better case when i come back from saune becase clearly almost none of the people have absolutely no idea what's the purpose of PM's in the first place and also they have no clue what i am talking about.

brb
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 11 2014 20:49 GMT
#735
Like I asked before DrH, do you have anything else notable you want to talk about or is the Xatalos thing still convincing to you?
Writer@WriterYamato
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:50 GMT
#736
Keep in mind that Xatalos initiated the PM conversation with me and all I did was answer his questions. If it is scummy for me to respond to someone who PMs me with answers to their questions then by all means lynch me, if it is scummy to forget a short and unimpactful PM conversation you had late at night while at an event on your phone then by all means lynch me.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:51 GMT
#737
On January 12 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote:
Like I asked before DrH, do you have anything else notable you want to talk about or is the Xatalos thing still convincing to you?

I'm waiting on responses from a few people, one in PMs and one in thread and a good chunk of time to read filters and sit down with my wordpad open. I still demand BH explain his course of action since he is my top scumread.
RIP Aaliyah
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 11 2014 20:53 GMT
#738
DH I can't respond via PM cause I've reached the limit for sending.

If you wanna provide an alternate method like Skype or IRC I can pop on some time later today. I'm a bit busy unfortunately or I'd be around more.
Wow
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2014 20:54 GMT
#739
my skype is divineorb you can add me on there
RIP Aaliyah
LSB Banking
Profile Joined March 2011
48 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 21:00:57
January 11 2014 21:00 GMT
#740
If you would like to use a smurf with a good amount of posts / age, I am offering LSB Banking for use.

PM LSB for details


EDIT WRONG SMURF
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