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Koshi
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DoctorHelvetica
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On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote: What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible? yea i forgot. ve pmd me too i guess. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On January 12 2014 04:06 Koshi wrote: Your point? Why so outraged? I'm just baffled by a completely false statement like that. I see no gain for him to lie on purpose, but it's weird that he would just forget about our PM's as well. So I want to know what caused this statement. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On January 12 2014 04:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: yea i forgot. ve pmd me too i guess. Do you have reads you can share now? In PM's you were completely unwilling to talk. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
anyway here is our pm log I don't agree with the notion of fake activity there, I think you're misdirecting that idea. You can listen to the first tl mafia podcast if you want to hear my thoughts on day 1 policy discussion. I have very slight reads but they're just nudges. It would be counterproductive to mention them now. When I have time I'd like to pressure those players first. I'm already doing it a little bit in PMs. Original Message From Xatalos: I'd be interested to hear that, yes. Ok then. I'd like to hear more of your stances on players rather than policy though. I realize it's early, but it's relatively easy to fake activity with policy talk, and I'd rather not elect a scum Mayor. Do you have (even slight) player reads yet? Hide nested quote - Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: There's nothing to discuss about BH, all I did was ask him questions and disagree with his premature lynch choice. I never accused him of anything. If I feel one way about him strongly, you'll know. There are a lot of ways I've talked about on the podcast as well, I'm not going to type them out on my phone rn but if you need me to tell you ill do so in the morning when I'm on a proper computer. Original Message From Xatalos: What about the points I mentioned about BH? How exactly do you catch scum with policy talk? Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: I'm busy tonight at Friday night magic. I am PMing marv and I am concerned with his passive nature. I figure when I get home there will be more to consider. Talking about policy is my policy for day 1, it makes people take sides and you can catch scum in serious errors like promethelax in I think LX? Original Message From Xatalos: I'm considering you for Mayor, and I kind of like your policy ideas, but you've pretty much only talked about policy so far. You did mention BH though. You hoped that his true intention is to generate discussion, but did you see Titanic II? There he tunneled a lurker all game and ignored me although I was near-confirmed scum. He was town. I somehow doubt that he has any noble goals in mind currently, town or scum. And it'd be extremely easy to fake a mindless push like that. Have you PM'd with marv yet? What do you think of his disinterest in becoming Mayor? Does he otherwise feel towny? i didn't really avoid talking to you seeing as i explained my inactivity and said i'd answer your questions but i forgot about you by the time i got home and you never PM'd me again like if you wanted to get answers from me and feel dissatisfied with my activity or whatever, why not keep hounding me? my feelings on BH and everything have changed since that PM exchange as well. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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Xatalos
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DoctorHelvetica
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Xatalos
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yamato77
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Is there anything else in the thread you feel the need to remark on? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I initially felt like Moc trolling was a town tell, but as anyone reading saw, it got old quickly. Thankfully he stopped, but what does this tell us about his alignment? The act itself of beginning to play the game is null. As mafia, he's surely invested in not getting lynched, especially on the first day, and with many players stating their intent to kill him lest he stop, he didn't really have much of a choice. As town, he obviously gains nothing from continuing to troll aside from perhaps reaction reads, but will also probably inevitably get lynched. Similar logic, it does nothing to further his wincon as either alignment to get lynched, so he stops trolling. What he has done since seems townish. I'm leery of Mocsta because of how poorly I read him in LXIII, but I see nothing that suggests to me that he's attempting to be deceptive. He talks a lot with kush, but that in and of itself doesn't mean anything nefarious. He looks like he's putting in effort in his own Mocsta way, so there's no reason to pat special attention to him any longer. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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yamato77
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raynpelikoneet
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What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later? Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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raynpelikoneet
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