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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I currently have two scumreads ZB and Iamp. If ZB isnt geting lynnjed thats understandable but iamp is a good target for todays lynch probably lurking wise xfire is getting modkilled/replaced probably so thats good Im chiefly concerned about thrawn because he wont get modkilled and is lurking will make sure to write good cases today | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:17 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamp Can you explain your thought process on Z-Bo to me because I just can't understand it. Why were you so initially convinced he was town based on his claim? Is the case you posted on him the only things you find scummy about him? I can't connect the dots. alright my thinking early on when i first saw it was i thought it would be pretty ballsy to do as scum since i thought a scum would have to worry about another miller claiming and it kind of put himself out there. I already outlined later when i voted for him that his actions made me think that he was scum at that time. On November 14 2012 00:04 iamperfection wrote: LOL dont you dare talk down to me you little punk. You criticize me when YOU were the one being all terrible with your first couple of posts. Being all herp derp i don't have to contribute even though interesting things were happening at the time. Give me a break But that being said ## Unvote Your case on zbos reminds me more of your play from rockband more then the way you were being early on. Lokking at what zbos has posted especially this crap which bh pointed out If you look closely debears never said anything about being able to tell if marv is town or not from an anyltical standpoint he made it pretty clear that it was not the case and that he had said he was simply going to vote for him no matter what. Zbos totally misrepresents what is being said here and if he has the courage to throw a vote out for it you would have thought he would have read clearly what he was in fact voting for. This post here is also another pile of crap and its the iamperfection rule of whoever defends me is probably scum. If he cared at all to check in gsl III where i was scum which he played in lollololol i thrw around 2 strong town reads early on he should know this and the fact that he isnt willing to do any legwork in order to find out is more evidence not in his favor. This post is also extremly wishy washy on everything he said. I know i said early on that i thought the miller claim was more of a town tell but well i think zbos actions speak louder. so ## Vote zboson Since then his case on bh, which i completely disagree bh with, it wasnt omgus and his further pushing of that case when he found it to be unsatisfactory response make me know think he more than ever he is likely to be town. he did that here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=33#643 Zbos is being open in his thought process and he is actively pushing his read i find that to be a town attribute and makes me think even more with his prodding of bh that he is likely to be town. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
 still though since his initial snb post and the poor quality of his starting case on me zb has been open and honest with his thoughts and pushed me-- and id like to think im not an easy or natural lynch target for scum. ##unvote | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:19 Blazinghand wrote: I did have to claim. But yeah let's leave that for post game. I currently have two scumreads ZB and Iamp. If ZB isnt geting lynnjed thats understandable but iamp is a good target for todays lynch probably lurking wise xfire is getting modkilled/replaced probably so thats good Im chiefly concerned about thrawn because he wont get modkilled and is lurking will make sure to write good cases today i said it before make something proper if you think I'm scum instead of saying i'm a good lynch. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Darth, I hope you show up soon and give us something to work with. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:31 Blazinghand wrote: yeah i dunno what to think now gotta read up and rethink .......what changed??????????????????????? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
##Unvote From your reactions so far, you're probably town. The "I don't give a fuck" thing has been on full display for the last few hours, and that meta read hasn't been wrong on you yet. I also do like the post on Z-Bo, but I give him less townie points than you do. Z-Bo can push a read as either allignment, but I do agree he's being open so far. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:40 Blazinghand wrote: yeah the ZB defense imo tells us more about iamp than it does about ZB-- but either way neither of them a good lynch today Yeah I'm looking at Thrawn and Kickstart atm. Thrawn's inactivity is pretty uncharacteristic of him so far. Kickstart as well dumped some suspicion on me and then peace'd out. I'm a bit more forgiving to Kickstart though as a first-time player. So let's get thrawn talking shall we? ##Vote Thrawn (Would love to hear from kickstart too, but more concerned with Thrawn atm) | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Dammit BH, I really think you should have saved your claim until later, you gave up too easily :/ I wasn't as certain on you as it might have seemed, but I wanted to gauge your reaction by throwing you against the wall. Anyways, here's what I think of this game so far. marv is likely town. He's a difficult town read to give, but his posting here seems genuine, and is much different than in GSL. Either he's trying much harder as scum or he's town. For now I'll go with the latter. Clarity is likely town. Just look at him being all cute under a major dirt-flinging fest. I'm townie, and so must be BH right now, so if I know my XXX analysis straight, scum hate posting during these sort of fightsituations, and It's harder for me to see scum posting during all of that like he did. Kickstart is likely town. He seems very genuine with his thoughts, and his posts, to me, seem townie-oriented. iamp is likely town. If his entire 180 attention-drawing isn't enough, then his activeness during all of this also indicate to me he is town. This is how I feel right now regarding townsfolk. Originally I had SnB down as town, but I feel he is null right now to me, I dunno, have a hard time reading him. Would (maybe?) give a town read on him? Thrawn is null to me. I can't see him being this quiet either as townie or as scum. He really really has to explain himself or be replaced thoug... Crossfire is afk. Now towards the scummers Hapauli. Much quieter this game. Much less present. Disappeared during all of my interaction with BH, only to appear after the claim. I don't buy his cases, especially the one on iamp. Completely ignored my first case on BH, and town Hapa usually comments on everything. In the beginning, put on some light pressure on DP, then unvoted him from some easy explanation only to never mention him again. Not a play I'd see hapa do. debears. Began the game with excessive posting, made a poor sheepy follow-up on iamp. Disappeared and has drastically reduced his posting. Seems pretty damn scummy. DarthPunk Doesn't have much to work with, is likely working on the other game. I find it weird how little attention he's getting from some of the scummier folk. A bad tell, but he's here mostly by elimination. Hopeless1der Not sure of his play yet. It's comparable to that of LVII, but I can see him as scum. Dunno. These are just my thoughts, mainly to get discussion going and for BH to see what he thinks (there's still a chance he's scum, but I'm assuming he is town for now). I haven't decided who I want to lynch yet, these are just my thoughts from my current level of reading. Tomorrow I'll be back probably with more powerful cases. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:39 Hapahauli wrote: @iamp ##Unvote From your reactions so far, you're probably town. The "I don't give a fuck" thing has been on full display for the last few hours, and that meta read hasn't been wrong on you yet. I also do like the post on Z-Bo, but I give him less townie points than you do. Z-Bo can push a read as either allignment, but I do agree he's being open so far.  i return, less heatedly | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
what just happened | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Hapauli. Much quieter this game. Much less present. Disappeared during all of my interaction with BH, only to appear after the claim. I don't buy his cases, especially the one on iamp. Completely ignored my first case on BH, and town Hapa usually comments on everything. In the beginning, put on some light pressure on DP, then unvoted him from some easy explanation only to never mention him again. Not a play I'd see hapa do. I'm in school on weekdays - it's impossible for me to be more "present" than I currently am. As for BH, I DID comment on him: On November 14 2012 07:22 Hapahauli wrote: Oh sniped by some cases on BH. I'll get to that in a bit. I've always heard that BH's scum-play is notoriously bad, and he seems more fearless than I would expect from his "bad" scum play. I'll take a look at the cases, but that's my first impression of him anywho. He claimed shortly thereafter, so it was pointless for me to comment more. On to the rest of your stuff: Your Town Reads: Agree on clarity and iamperfection. Clarity seems much more engaged this game than his Newbie XXX game. Iamperfection for reasons previously stated. Disagree on marv. I don't think he's done anything alignment indicative. He's definitely capable of doing this as scum, even though he played a more dispirited game last game. Completely null on him. Your Null Reads: I'm putting SnB into the town category (again POSSIBLY the SK, but I don't want to speculate too much). His play so far is such a far departure from his scumplay. Crossfire is null (duh) I'm getting more scum vibes from Thrawn. He's made one pretty coherent post and just peaced out. He could be afk for RL issues or something, but given that he's never played a scumgame (to my knowledge) and that we have a sudden deviation in his play, the connection is there. Your Scumreads Disagree with me obv, I'm town dawg As for debears, he was one of the players willing to follow me on iamperfection, and he made one of those "overkill"/"overexplained" cases when voting him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440¤tpage=29#575 It reads as really artificial and a way to cover his bases. Agreed here. I'm firmly null on DarthPunk. Hopeless is lurky, but that's normal regardless of alignment for him (null as well). | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
one he was SK, two scum team had weird communication restrictions, one was idiot cop mafia | ||
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