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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
November 03 2008 17:25 GMT
#681
I think mafia know that one mafia life is worth less than one more DT check, since at this point, it doesn't hurt their hit number.
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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:30 GMT
#682
On November 03 2008 14:40 Ace wrote:
Alventenie your thinking assumes mafia are 100% stupid.

Mafia wouldn't kill Folca tonight. Leaving him alive forces the town to lynch him tomorrow. Whether he gets a role check in again or a vote check in again means nothing if there are only two lists to check. So you'd actually just be starting from scratch, and taking chances on decaf's unfulfilled clue. Thats the problem people have - your long term plan isn't really long term. You HAVE to lynch Folca tomorrow anyway and he can't do a vote check when he's dead can he? So you might as well go the sure fire route and lynch him today because between me and him, you KNOW one of us is mafia.



This is bs...

Either way we'd be wasting a Lynch Ace, and you know it.

Let me make this obvious to the entire town, (caps time)

IF WE LYNCH FOLCA TOMORROW, WE GAIN MORE INFORMATION. TODAY IS A BS LYNCH. IF WE LYNCH FOLCA TODAY WE ARE STILL WASTING A LYNCH. IF MAFIA DONT KILL FOLCA AND FOLCA FLIPS BLUE, ACE IS FUCKED. IF THEY LET HIM LIVE, WHEN WE DO LYNCH HIM, IF HE FLIPS BLUE, A SURE MAFIA IS FUCKED AND THE REST OF HIS INFORMATION HELPS. SO WE GAIN MORE ALLOWING HIM TO LIVE TIL TOMORROW, and no harm except wasting time if he lied.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:31 GMT
#683
Ace isn't thinking. That's why I think he IS MAFIA
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:38 GMT
#684
On November 03 2008 14:50 Ace wrote:
You're right, if this was last game I would say the same thing. I'm going for Folca because we KNOW there is a collision of facts here: either him or myself are going to flip red.

With decaf there isn't. The clue pointing to him is really not even that deep. Just like last game when the town has no idea what to do, we start lynching people and hope they turn red. This time, we know for a fact that either myself or Folca is going to flip red and it sounds like you guys are banking on the fact that he flips blue.

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?

On November 03 2008 14:51 Empyrean wrote:
We traded off a townie life for more information by a detective that may lead to more mafia deaths.

epic rebuttal
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 17:50:02
November 03 2008 17:38 GMT
#685
In JeeJee's profile:
It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs.

I'll see if anyone else sees the connection

I change my vote. I vote for JeeJee

edit: I have a feeling ~OpZ~ is trying to brainwash us
lol, clueless in The Prism!
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:40 GMT
#686
On November 03 2008 15:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
as one general note as well, im a cook and thinking about the final meal "clue"

In a traditional meal setting, as in a banquet or the like, you would have coffee after finishing the entire meal, as a finisher.

Rather than just pin decaf as he fits the chicken = meal, and decaf = coffee

Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile
Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile
Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake


More than just one food connection, and as a final meal coffee makes sense, so not really a good lynch guys, lets think on it more

You can thank me later decaf :p


Usually you finish your meal before drinking the coffee....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 17:42:28
November 03 2008 17:41 GMT
#687
Opz can you please stop posting so much ...
If you have to post that many times after yourself please just edit your first post
quintuple posts are not acceptable
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:43 GMT
#688
On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 15:01 Empyrean wrote:

Additionally, if we kill decaf and he is red, we will likely vote to lynch Ace instead of Folca next, since Ace is so sedulously defending decaf in the rare case the mafia don't target Folca and we have to choose between him and Ace.



Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not.


I will probably be voting Ace tomorrow if Folca lives through the night....Just because the mafia might not kill him to make us kill him, just because how staunch Ace is on his murder Folca path....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:44 GMT
#689
On November 03 2008 15:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote:
On November 03 2008 15:01 Empyrean wrote:

Additionally, if we kill decaf and he is red, we will likely vote to lynch Ace instead of Folca next, since Ace is so sedulously defending decaf in the rare case the mafia don't target Folca and we have to choose between him and Ace.



Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not.


Unless clues start to point towards ace after tonight, but that isnt likely to be easy to spot



let us do remember Ace can possibly have clues pointing at him right now...K?

No mayor, No authority....Let us no listen to Ace...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 03 2008 17:44 GMT
#690
GOD DAMN IT I WILL BAN YOU IF YOU KEEP ON DOUBLE POSTING
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:45 GMT
#691
On November 03 2008 15:06 Ace wrote:
Emp of course I'm defending decaf: no one has yet to give strong evidence to why he should die. and like I've said countless times, myself and Folca already present a CLEAR path to a resolution.

You and Alventenie are BANKING on the best case scenario when you have no idea whether decaf is gonna flip or not. Did any of you cite any DT investigation into decaf? No. Your whole thing is "I think this clue fits him", and neither of you are even known for being great at clue analysis. Thats why I'm not buying it.

And of course I'm sure you would say that. Me defending decaf paints both of us mafia. So lynch me first now, instead of Folca even though the burden of proof is on him and he has nothing to do with decaf. Right. Makes perfect sense don't you think?


Why not bank on the best case scenario....Decaf might flip blue....he might flip red....he might flip green....Either way Folca dieing today would be stupid....Instead why not vote you dead today and cut out the middle?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 17:49 GMT
#692
opz are you retarded?

No one knows if Folca is for real, which is the whole point of lynching him first.

Thats the whole damn reason I'm advocating his lynch, besides the most obvious point that I'm the one he accused. Stop asking stupid questions.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:51 GMT
#693
On November 03 2008 16:40 fanatacist wrote:
I think MTF's clue on MidnightGladius is particularly strong. I was like "GOD DAMN O:"

Agreed.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:52 GMT
#694
On November 03 2008 17:19 Mandalor wrote:
Did Folca use his second role check already? I've read through the last pages, but probably missed it. If you haven't, I suggest checking either nemY or SoleSteeler. It really only is a gut feeling I have, but first of all they posted the exact same things: "I abstain, because I don't have a clue. Good Luck to the town blah blah." Sort of.
It's the exact same thing 80% of us mafia did at the beginning of the last game before we had a plan.

I vote to lynch Folca, for now.


How are you going to ask if he used it, THEN VOTE HIM?!
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 03 2008 17:53 GMT
#695
On November 03 2008 17:22 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 17:19 Mandalor wrote:
Did Folca use his second role check already? I've read through the last pages, but probably missed it. If you haven't, I suggest checking either nemY or SoleSteeler. It really only is a gut feeling I have, but first of all they posted the exact same things: "I abstain, because I don't have a clue. Good Luck to the town blah blah." Sort of.
It's the exact same thing 80% of us mafia did at the beginning of the last game before we had a plan.

I vote to lynch Folca, for now.

I have to disagree with you. People abstain from voting when they don't agree with the current trends in the game (the current Folca vs Ace thing is kind of ugly and fishy to me, it seems a bit too weird that someone would impale themselves on the cross for 1 Mafia kill. There is definitely a ploy in there to fuck the town over, imo.). Mafia would be more likely to play along with the plans in motion so as to mix themselves in with the crowd. At least that's how I see it.

EDIT: Good night all.


It would be more useful to vote some random person....Mafia can hide by abstaining...They can't hide by voting someone random.

For all abstaining, vote for me. Don't hide yourselves by abstaining. That is suspicious.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 03 2008 17:54 GMT
#696
you dont fucking learn do you?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
November 03 2008 17:59 GMT
#697
Haha :/
Moderator
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 18:03:31
November 03 2008 17:59 GMT
#698
he probably would have kept going for four more pages before he read your comment, he was only on page 31, hehe

On November 04 2008 02:38 Chezinu wrote:
In JeeJee's profile:
It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs.

I'll see if anyone else sees the connection

I change my vote. I vote for JeeJee
lol, clueless in The Prism!
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 03 2008 18:00 GMT
#699
lol he prolly couldn't see your post through all of his
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
November 03 2008 18:34 GMT
#700
On November 04 2008 01:27 Bockit wrote:
Also, while we have clues etc, don't forget interpretation of actions. Eg people posting in a manner that's not normal for them (See BlindAlbino from previous game, he was posting stupidly in the thread, and reasonably intelligently outside of it).

Also from my experience as mafia in the previous game we should look for people who are offering to help, but never actually do something, they're perpetually busy, have school, just came home from work etc and need to read the thread to catch up before they do anything, and then never do anything.



And one more thing. If Folca is a dt, why did he blow the whistle on Ace so early? I mean, it's the first vote, chances of us getting a lynch right aren't too high, it's not like if Ace is mafia that he could mislead us too much, it wouldn't have much of an effect. It would have been immeasurably better for Folca to gather more and more information and then release it all in a big thing. Then when mafia kill him because they wouldn't want a detective to still be running loose his info is confirmed and he's been pretty useful. This is becoming the equivalent of a mental dump so I'll leave it at that. Suffice to say my impression is that Folca is lying.

EDIT:

## I vote to lynch Folca


This.

If Folca is DT he shouldn't have just come out and said it. Folca could have gathered more information the following day when more clues popped up and even used another Role Check on someone else. If Folca isn't a DT then he's stirring up confusion and trying to mislead the town. If Folca is DT then Ace is 100% mafia and is dead, if Folca isn't DT then we are back to square one with Ace.

I change my vote from abstain to Folca.
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