TL Mafia 3 [Night 5] - Page 35

On November 03 2008 14:40 Ace wrote:
Alventenie your thinking assumes mafia are 100% stupid.

Mafia wouldn't kill Folca tonight. Leaving him alive forces the town to lynch him tomorrow. Whether he gets a role check in again or a vote check in again means nothing if there are only two lists to check. So you'd actually just be starting from scratch, and taking chances on decaf's unfulfilled clue. Thats the problem people have - your long term plan isn't really long term. You HAVE to lynch Folca tomorrow anyway and he can't do a vote check when he's dead can he? So you might as well go the sure fire route and lynch him today because between me and him, you KNOW one of us is mafia.

On November 03 2008 14:50 Ace wrote:
You're right, if this was last game I would say the same thing. I'm going for Folca because we KNOW there is a collision of facts here: either him or myself are going to flip red.

With decaf there isn't. The clue pointing to him is really not even that deep. Just like last game when the town has no idea what to do, we start lynching people and hope they turn red. This time, we know for a fact that either myself or Folca is going to flip red and it sounds like you guys are banking on the fact that he flips blue.

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?

On November 03 2008 14:51 Empyrean wrote:
We traded off a townie life for more information by a detective that may lead to more mafia deaths.

On November 03 2008 15:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
as one general note as well, im a cook and thinking about the final meal "clue"

In a traditional meal setting, as in a banquet or the like, you would have coffee after finishing the entire meal, as a finisher.

Rather than just pin decaf as he fits the chicken = meal, and decaf = coffee

Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile
Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile
Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake


More than just one food connection, and as a final meal coffee makes sense, so not really a good lynch guys, lets think on it more

You can thank me later decaf :p

On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote:



Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not.

On November 03 2008 15:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Unless clues start to point towards ace after tonight, but that isnt likely to be easy to spot

On November 03 2008 15:06 Ace wrote:
Emp of course I'm defending decaf: no one has yet to give strong evidence to why he should die. and like I've said countless times, myself and Folca already present a CLEAR path to a resolution.

You and Alventenie are BANKING on the best case scenario when you have no idea whether decaf is gonna flip or not. Did any of you cite any DT investigation into decaf? No. Your whole thing is "I think this clue fits him", and neither of you are even known for being great at clue analysis. Thats why I'm not buying it.

And of course I'm sure you would say that. Me defending decaf paints both of us mafia. So lynch me first now, instead of Folca even though the burden of proof is on him and he has nothing to do with decaf. Right. Makes perfect sense don't you think?

On November 03 2008 16:40 fanatacist wrote:
I think MTF's clue on MidnightGladius is particularly strong. I was like "GOD DAMN O:"

On November 03 2008 17:19 Mandalor wrote:
Did Folca use his second role check already? I've read through the last pages, but probably missed it. If you haven't, I suggest checking either nemY or SoleSteeler. It really only is a gut feeling I have, but first of all they posted the exact same things: "I abstain, because I don't have a clue. Good Luck to the town blah blah." Sort of.
It's the exact same thing 80% of us mafia did at the beginning of the last game before we had a plan.

I vote to lynch Folca, for now.

On November 03 2008 17:22 fanatacist wrote:

I have to disagree with you. People abstain from voting when they don't agree with the current trends in the game (the current Folca vs Ace thing is kind of ugly and fishy to me, it seems a bit too weird that someone would impale themselves on the cross for 1 Mafia kill. There is definitely a ploy in there to fuck the town over, imo.). Mafia would be more likely to play along with the plans in motion so as to mix themselves in with the crowd. At least that's how I see it.

EDIT: Good night all.

On November 04 2008 02:38 Chezinu wrote:
In JeeJee's profile:
It brings tears of joy to my eyes to see the tears of angst in theirs.

I'll see if anyone else sees the connection

I change my vote. I vote for JeeJee

On November 04 2008 01:27 Bockit wrote:
Also, while we have clues etc, don't forget interpretation of actions. Eg people posting in a manner that's not normal for them (See BlindAlbino from previous game, he was posting stupidly in the thread, and reasonably intelligently outside of it).

Also from my experience as mafia in the previous game we should look for people who are offering to help, but never actually do something, they're perpetually busy, have school, just came home from work etc and need to read the thread to catch up before they do anything, and then never do anything.



And one more thing. If Folca is a dt, why did he blow the whistle on Ace so early? I mean, it's the first vote, chances of us getting a lynch right aren't too high, it's not like if Ace is mafia that he could mislead us too much, it wouldn't have much of an effect. It would have been immeasurably better for Folca to gather more and more information and then release it all in a big thing. Then when mafia kill him because they wouldn't want a detective to still be running loose his info is confirmed and he's been pretty useful. This is becoming the equivalent of a mental dump so I'll leave it at that. Suffice to say my impression is that Folca is lying.

EDIT:

## I vote to lynch Folca