• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:24
CEST 00:24
KST 07:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On8Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition195.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)91$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
BarrackS' ASL S20 Ro.8 Review&Power of Friendship Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Thoughts on rarely used units RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1714 users

Resistance 2 - Tunnel Rats - Page 35

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 49 Next All
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 03:14 GMT
#681
If you think Palmar is scum why would you think Dirk is scum
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 02 2012 03:18 GMT
#682
You talking to me?

dirk probably isn't my strongest town read like I mentioned before, but I'm still leaning town on him. Hence, the yay vote.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 03:23 GMT
#683
I'm just saying that Dirk being scum is unlikely (but not impossible) if Palmar is scum. He'd want to pick two town players on his D1 team almost certainly, even assuming he can coordinate who's sabotaging (which he definitely could). My interpretation of Palmar's team suggestion was this: Palmar is scum, and he suggested Dirk and Nav who he both knew was town. He suggested Dirk because he wanted to look like he was suggesting a team, and he suggested Nav to be a "fall guy" for when the team failed, making up some bad rationalization of "well scum would care about the game more". I just don't think it would be optimal play for a Palm/Dirk/X scumteam to put both Palm and Dirk on a team together like that with Nav.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 02 2012 03:29 GMT
#684
Perhaps, was there a reason you suggested nav for your team other than the fact than you think he was Palmar's "fall guy"? Or were you simply looking to go with a team that would pass?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 03:29 GMT
#685
In fact Kita, you've historicaly nayyed every team except for the team you suggested, Dirk/BH/VE. The ONLY difference in this team is that I've been swapped out for Navillus!

Context: Kita suggested Dirk/BH/VE. This team is Dirk/Nav/VE

Let's take a look at your reasoning for being skeptical of this team you've yayvoted:

On March 02 2012 12:11 kitaman27 wrote:
dirk has a really weird response to my questioning the other day. He called me scum after calling me town only a few posts prior. After I brought it up, he responded that he may have decided that I was scum based on everyone else calling me scum, which is really sketchy. VE has been really inconsistent with his reads, but I'm still leaning town. nav hasn't really done anything. I listed him as my weakest town read earlier, but its incredibly difficult for me to differentiate between an apathetic scum and a inactive townie.

I'll vote yay since I'd like to play the game out, rather than settle for a draw. However, if the team sabotages, I'm not going to be bullied out of the teams anymore and will likely go back to insisting that I'm included.



So dirk has a weird response... To what? In the last 6 days, he're's you
ONLY interaction with Dirk:

On February 25 2012 14:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:23 Dirkzor wrote:
I'm leaning Me/nav/palmar (lol)

can people get behind that? (I'm not posting the team yet as I want to reread some filters first.)


lol what? Who is your scum team if you're proposing a team like that? o.O


That's it. That's all you interact with him about. What questions? what pressure?

And Nav? Nav hasn't done anything substantially different since you wrote:

On February 25 2012 14:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:30 prplhz wrote:
Who is your scum team kitaman27?


You can call me kita for short, prplhz.

I'm leaning towards Palmar, sent/you, and nav/chaos?

Tough to get all three spot on without a mission submission, but based on the voting patterns, that is what I'm leaning.



Has chaos13 become more town since then with his crap team submission that only I yayvoted?

Who's your scumteam? What's with this weird reticence on that yayvote? Do you think these guys are scum or not? What's so special about Nav, or what's really changed about Dirk and VE since you last suggested a team that was ALMOST the same as this one, the only team you yayvoted? Why so scared?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 03:33 GMT
#686
On March 02 2012 12:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Perhaps, was there a reason you suggested nav for your team other than the fact than you think he was Palmar's "fall guy"? Or were you simply looking to go with a team that would pass?


I think it's pretty clear that Nav as a fall guy would not be scum. That being said, Nav has missed several votes (including his own) and has only ever yayvoted one team, and it had prpl on it. He's town, but with crap reads. Palmar is scum. Sent is probably scum. If I couldn't scrounge together a team that would pass, this game would end in a draw because there's nobody who's both smart AND town coming up in the lineup. I'm fucking Henry Clay, I'm gonna compromise the shit out of this deal.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 02 2012 03:42 GMT
#687
On March 02 2012 12:29 Blazinghand wrote:
So dirk has a weird response... To what? In the last 6 days, he're's you
ONLY interaction with Dirk:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:25 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:23 Dirkzor wrote:
I'm leaning Me/nav/palmar (lol)

can people get behind that? (I'm not posting the team yet as I want to reread some filters first.)


lol what? Who is your scum team if you're proposing a team like that? o.O


That's it. That's all you interact with him about. What questions? what pressure?


On February 25 2012 01:36 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 25 2012 01:08 Dirkzor wrote:
I voted Nay.

I think Kita, BH and chaos are scum. So...


So lets get this straight. I nay'd the Sent, BH, VE team making it 4/5 rather than 5/4 so I could substitute out a town sent in favor of a town dirk?

You're not thinking logically.


You're actually right... hmm..

(I'm at work and have to go eat soon so I didn't bother going back to see...)

I might be thinking you are scum because so many keeps saying you are scum... very bad =(


I was referring to this. I suppose it was more than a few days ago, although much hasn't been said since then.

On March 02 2012 12:29 Blazinghand wrote:
And Nav? Nav hasn't done anything substantially different since you wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 14:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 25 2012 14:30 prplhz wrote:
Who is your scum team kitaman27?


You can call me kita for short, prplhz.

I'm leaning towards Palmar, sent/you, and nav/chaos?

Tough to get all three spot on without a mission submission, but based on the voting patterns, that is what I'm leaning.



Has chaos13 become more town since then with his crap team submission that only I yayvoted?

Who's your scumteam? What's with this weird reticence on that yayvote? Do you think these guys are scum or not?


The current set of three players isn't my ideal team. If the game had an unlimited amount of time remaining and I was able to select my ideal team of three players, I would probably nay it. I would still prefer a team with myself or probably you, over nav. If prpl were willing to put worth a kita/VE/dirk team, then I would pass on this one, but that seems incredibly unlikely. Like I said before, nav is pretty null to me. My scum team is still probably the same as I mentioned before.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 04:03 GMT
#688
So your only problem with this team is that Nav is going in your place, but you like VE and dirk
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 02 2012 05:21 GMT
#689
Team Blazinghand: VisceraEyes, Dirkzor, Navillus

Navillus - Yay
Palmar - Yay
[UoN]Sentinel - Yay
kitaman27 - Yay
Dirkzor - Yay
chaos13 - Failed to vote!
VisceraEyes - Yay
Blazinghand - Yay
prplhz - Yay

8 Yays, 1 Nays
Team Blazinghand is Accepted!

Incoming mission post, please stand by
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 05:27 GMT
#690
Aww yeah a team everyone liked. This is me right now: [image loading]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 02 2012 05:28 GMT
#691
Mission 1

Mission Success!

[image loading]



The plan was simple. Assault the winery supplying the army with their drink, to incite unrest among the soldiers.
As the team enters the enters the winery it is deathly quiet. Each footstep echoes down the long hallway. The team marvel at the stocked wine which seems to go on endlessly.
As they draw closer to the end of the hallway, one of the team pauses. He turns and asks "Did you hear that?"
"I thought I heard.... buffaloes. Nevermind, must have been my imagination" he said as they continued walking. They plant the charges and quickly escape to a safe distance to watch the fireworks.


Mission 1 suffered no sabotage attempts and was successful!




prplhz is the next leader

The current deadline to post a team is in 23 hours at 04:30 GMT (+00:00), or 3 March 13:30 KST.
If the leader has not submitted a team by then, he will be skipped and the next one in line will be Navillus.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 02 2012 05:33 GMT
#692
So this should be sort of completely absolutely 100% obvious but same team, also I think this puts these 3 people almost completely in the clear as if there was a scum their options are 1. sabatoge now 2. sabatoge day 2 with same team which yields them exactly 0 benefit over sabatoging day 1 and gives us a free day or 3. wait til we get a bigger team day 3 (someone said this is happening, that is true correct?) in which case they've left themselves with 0 room for error which seems just stupid.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 05:35 GMT
#693
Yeah obviously. The real question is "who should we add as the fourth member"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 05:35 GMT
#694
In case you're confused:

Day 1: 3 people
Day 2: 4 people
Day 3: 4 people
Day 4: 5 people, 2 sabotages needed
Day 5: 5 people, 1 sabotage needed
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 02 2012 05:37 GMT
#695
Oh whoops I was confused that helps. I propose Palmar, Prplhz I would probably yay as well.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 05:39 GMT
#696
So you're not a fan of Myself, Chaos, Kita, or Sent as the fourth man
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 02 2012 05:42 GMT
#697
Yes though I will say that if Palmar or Prplhz fail I have them sort of grouped in my mind so I would probably in that case jump right to you, and if it looks like it would go through I would be ok sending you through rn because that's really just switching the order, and I don't want to be really obstructivist, especially when at this point someone non-ideal needs to go through since, well, my ideal team just went.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 02 2012 05:43 GMT
#698
Just to be clear Sent I'm still sort of null on but would prefer to stay away from, Chaos and Kita are auto-nay votes.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 02 2012 05:52 GMT
#699
You know given how hard palm and prpl are insider each other's butts I'm wondering if one of them (prpl?) might actually just be town. I guess third scum would be like, kita then.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 02 2012 06:42 GMT
#700
It should be noted also that there might have been a misunderstanding about the sabotage rules - there was a night-phase in Resistance 1 where the scum team was given the opportunity to submit a sabotage. In this game it looks like scum have to submit their sabotage WITH their vote...so it's possible there's scum on the successful team who forgot to submit their sabotage. And with as many 'Failed to vote' as we've had, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Just putting that out there. I think the original three sent is a good starting point, but don't just write us off as auto-town either. If one of us just stops making sense or starts acting super scummy, don't be afraid to call us out and if necessary, replace us over the course of discussion today. But have a damn good reason, because a successful mission is successful.

As for who I want on the next team, I'm torn between derp and kita. Gonna reread and see what I see.

Good shit guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 49 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Safe House 2
18:00
Qualifier #1
MasTeR vs eGGzLIVE!
ZombieGrub400
EnkiAlexander 60
LiquipediaDiscussion
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#16
ZZZero.O131
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub408
Nathanias 133
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15491
Rain 4795
ZZZero.O 131
Larva 113
Dewaltoss 86
sSak 84
NaDa 33
Rock 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
ggaemo 9
Dota 2
canceldota47
League of Legends
JimRising 845
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K260
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor294
Other Games
summit1g5345
FrodaN3957
Grubby3367
Mlord752
KnowMe270
C9.Mang0134
Sick129
XaKoH 109
Trikslyr75
UpATreeSC59
Mew2King33
ViBE14
JuggernautJason14
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1240
gamesdonequick1009
StarCraft 2
angryscii 29
Other Games
BasetradeTV21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 59
• RyuSc2 50
• davetesta46
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21898
• WagamamaTV545
• Ler82
Other Games
• imaqtpie1524
• tFFMrPink 14
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 37m
BSL Team Wars
20h 37m
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
IPSL
20h 37m
DragOn vs Fear
Radley vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
OSC
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.