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kitaman27
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On June 08 2012 00:17 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 00:14 Sbrubbles wrote:On June 07 2012 14:10 HiroPro wrote:
The reason why I'm not posting it now is that it will not influence the lynch at all, but it does help mafia in their decision for the night kill.
Risk's flip does not affect my case at all, as everyone in the game has said that they want risk to be lynched.
While it is true that discussion has stalled, I don't think this will carry over at all as a mayor election will come up and the last mafia still needs to be found (assuming risk is scum).
I'll have my case and full list of reads out before the end of night. I agree with Hiro, this works like night time. About tomorrow's poison, we'll have a better idea once risk's actually flipped, but I think we can choose mayor lynch. I don't think it will be necessary for IC to claim because with only one mafia left, I doubt that he'll try to run for mayor, but even if he does he'll be under major scrutiny. Tracker can consider claiming (if he feels it will help with defining the mayor lynch), because the remaining scum will have no way of counter claiming (since we'd have time to kill them both). Bleulightz, I'm confused. Majority is players/2+1 now, meaning players/2+2 because of the poison? Here is a lesson, the majority for day 1 was]6 but majority means more then the minority so it was supposed to be 7, then kita kept repeating the mistake methinks, for today since the majority for 8 is 5, but since there is maj +1 so it is 6.
Please ignore my rambling co-host again (I really need to start locking him up). As the game began with an error in the OP and mechanics in the game, such as majority +1 are based on the assumption that this error was valid, we won't change the setup midgame. 5 players are required for majority today.
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Might as well post my case now then. My full reads will be end of night though.
Case on Sbrubbles
On June 01 2012 21:09 Sbrubbles wrote:
The case on Kurumi is partly based on his meta and I don't trust cases built solely on meta. What is interesting is
that he makes his whole argument with basis on game mechanics (better yet, his opinions on game mechanics), which
would be the "safest" way for mafia to be pushing for a mislynch at D1. It feels a bit scummy, but I'm still mostly null on him.
The first thing that popped out to me from Sbrubbles's filter is this statement. Sbrubbles says here that Kurumi's case looks like a mafia one because it's based mostly on game mechanics. While this is going on Sbrubbles is pushing a case on me based entirely on me voting for GF instead of framer...
On June 02 2012 09:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
Bah ... I'm not sure anymore. Bugs/Toad/prlhz, why Navillus over risk.nuke?
On June 02 2012 10:24 Sbrubbles wrote:
I'm switching my vote to guarantee the Navillus lynch.
##Unvote: HiroPro
##Vote: Navillus
Sbrubbles makes a vote to guaruntee a lynch without ever giving his opinion on the person's play or whether or not they are scum???
Miscellaneous Evidence
There are a couple of other things about Sbrubbles's play that make me think he is mafia. He never offers actual substantiated reads about anyone except risk.nuke (who for reasons I already talked about, had to be bussed) and myself (who he attacked purely based on game mechanics and my voting record). His activity level was relatively high during setup and d1, when it's easy for mafia to blend in, but after that he's hardly said a word. And on multiple occasions, Toad avoided giving reads about Sbrubbles when directly asked. All of these lead me to conclude that Sbrubbles is likely the last mafia. And slOosh brings up good points also.
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Tomorrow when you discuss lynches. If you want my thoughts the two last scum are probably Kurumi and sbrubbles. Good luck town.
Oh and remember only vt's have been lynched so far. So blueclaim can force a 1-1 or confirm town. I recommend all of you give it some thought how and when you want to do the blueclaim. And make sure you do it right so you max your chances of confirming yourselves and giving scum a harder time to force a 1-1.
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you better not be town or your d2 performance has been inexcusable
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Why do you give useful advice.... Please tell me that you are not town.....
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i don't know if this is really all that useful. look as if he's just messing with us 
at least i hope so ...
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Well i wanted to roleclaim tomorrow. Because that's pretty much guaranteed win if risk is scum.
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... but instead you're doing it now? why is this guaranteed win?
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I started of trying to do something analyzing wbg, I was shot down by you guys and your "hey scum is probably playing suboptimally", I facepalmed and lost my motivation. Then I gently gently gently soft-defended the person who flipped scum. I'm saying that because No I did not defend toad. I said I disagreed to lynching him that day because of my previous history with him I wanted to take it slower and try to get a grip on him. I wasn't posting a bunch of reasons and arguing heavily for his release. Which is what I became accused for even though nobody said it and nobody bothered to check for themselves.
My hope was if Radfield would refilter me and see atleast some doubt before he would inevitably die that night. Today there wasn't much point in defending myself. I could never save myself and in this scenario where there was NO chance of saving myself. I could start questioning you why you wanted to lynch me, defending myself and debating with you. It wouldn't had saved me and it wouldn't had helped you find scum. So I've just been sitting here reading ALOT trying to find the last two scums so that I could help you as best I can.
And in response to. You better not be town. Fuck you zombies.
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On June 08 2012 09:25 prplhz wrote:
... but instead you're doing it now? why is this guaranteed win?
? I didn't roleclaim now. I said that if risk is scum, then I would have wanted to roleclaim tomorrow because that would give us 1 or 2 confirmed townies in addition to the people who are already strong town reads
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Are you getting confused by me saying "i"? I mean for everyone.
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meh if you gave up in advance and didn't even try then you played bad in my opinion.
i don't even know what "fuck you zombies" means.
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Night 3
Did someone just....
DIE!?
"Nah I'm alive :D"
"So, how's it go-"
"Oh well, who shot him o_o"
*sees someone with a shotgun*
"Why did you bring it anyway o_o"
"cuz I like brains on the floor!"
"wat"
"Oh they're simply delightful!"
"atleast, not that kind though"
risk.nuke the vanilla townie has been lynched.
Send kita and me actions asap (meaning: before the next deadline)
also vote for a poison please :3
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sigh. I will have my full list of reads by the end of the night. Please read my case on Sbrubbles.
It is very unlikely that we have a medic. Therefore, after tonight we will have only 2 days left, both of which will be lylo.
The poisons left are secret ballot, hidden flip, 24 hour day, and mayoral election. 24 hour day hurts us and should never be used. Secret Ballot should be used when we have 1 mafia left maybe, but not tomorrow as we want to see the voting. Hidden flip does not hurt us at all, as if the game goes on, we know that mafia was lynched.
All of that being said I think we should have a mayoral election tomorrow. Why? Because tomorrow is I believe the right time to roleclaim. Which will either give us 2 confirmed townies or a very easy lynch to choose between. If mafia does not counterclaim, the mayor should be one of the 2 confirmed townies (or innocent child if we have one). If mafia does counterclaim, we either have an innocent child or we have certain people who I think everyone should have as town reads (I will name who I think these are in my end-of-night post) as a mayor. In these scenarios, I believe that having a mayoral election is actually a benefit, instead of a poison. So I think the poisons should be mayoral election tomorrow and then hidden flip the next day.
As for why not do it the other way (hidden flip tomorrow and then mayoral election the final day), I think that is a bad idea as the number of strong town reads/ blue roles we have alive will only go down.
##Vote: Mayor Election
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What. the. fuck.
I will have a lot to talk post game. What the fuck risk. What the actual fuck.
We waste the whole day 2 thinking "hey we lynched scum". Instead of you trying to find a way to defend your ass, you just stay shut until the last few minutes?
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K wtf. U'd think u would play well, but Rarely you see something like that. Until the game is over, My head will be pounding. I think i thought about Something. So let me Catch Up on a few stuff, Maybe i'll find something good show it the next day if i'm alive.
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On June 08 2012 02:19 slOosh wrote:
P.s. Don't buy a b.s. last minute claim from risk.nuke. I feel like he might do that and try to either lure out the real tracker, or if the tracker doesn't claim, then scare us into a mislynch. If he is IC ... I don't even want to think about that possibility.
P.p.s. I believe risk.nuke's thing is "always townie never not townie", i.e. he has never rolled scum before. He would also fit the role of new scum who is unsure of how to act now that Toad is dead.
hmmmmmm
Imagine if risk had claimed within the last 24hours? Like, we wouldn't buy a claim anyway, but why set up this? Also, how can he be so sure that the game has a Tracker and an IC?
This post in specific looks incredibly fishy.
agh, I hate when I push for a lynch so hard and it ends up being a mislynch.
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this is close to VE revenge killing BC day 1
anyway I feel like lynching into Radfield's list might be a good idea.
The thing is, he was quite set on it being 2-1 in favor of Roleblocker, where it might be the opposite. Sbrubbles is a good lynch for tomorrow (or a good shot today for vigilante who I guess doesn't exist and would come in handy..) then we might go like me-sloosh-think about roleblocker voters
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