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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 14:27 GMT
#641
Most of the case on Pandain seems to come down to him playing bad or weird. But I don't know what that means. Someone said to me after I died about Pandain flipped mafia in Hogwarts - "I should have known, he was posting too sensibly". So, yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 28 2013 14:29 GMT
#642
On October 28 2013 22:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hai marv.
I can talk about Prome for just a little bit atm if you'd like, but I'm nor sure how long I'll be around so we won't be able to pick each other's brains as per usual. What exactly were you saving up regarding your townread of him to tell me?

Oh and regarding Seuss (monte it's so weird to call you that) he seems pretty town to me. Like he said I coached him and his behaviour falls pretty in line with his last newbie, as well as what you determined to be him rolefishing. I give him the WaveofShadow newbie stamp of approval for now, though I would really like to hear some reads from him, as I know he is pretty capable of good analysis with way less to work with than has been posted in this thread.


Yay stamp of approval.

Now that I'm not distracted by marv here are my current thoughts.

Promethelax: Probably town. When I, an unknown entity, entered the thread his first response was to solicit my opinion in a neutral way, and keep drawing more information from me regarding my mindset. This was good, pro-town play, as it lets him and everyone else get the chance to form a read on me. In general I'd call him inquisitive, he likes poking where there's gaps in information. He's been a bit more confrontational with some of the other posters, but confrontational isn't inherently anti-town. Without him we'd probably know a lot less right now. I can get why people would find his "I can't meta Pandain" and apparent lack of scum reads concerning, but on the whole I think he's clearly town.

strongandbig: No idea, but unless he starts posting a crapton before the voting deadline I think we're better off pursuing someone else. We stand to learn absolutely nothing by lynching him, though applying pressure might help loosen his tongue.

Oatsmaster: Maybe scum. There's still a lot of "if so-and-so is Y, so-and-so #2 is X" without an explanation of the logic. I don't think it makes sense for him to give marv a pass for not talking about who he doesn't want to talk about, but not give Promethelax a similar pass for not following up where he doesn't want to follow up. He says he's made a strong case but you have to go back through about 30 posts and pick it up in bits and pieces, which is time consuming and not all that convincing. I realize this may just be his posting style and "meta" or whatever, but I find it obfuscates information more than I'd like.

You guys move faster than I can analyze and parse. Waugh.

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 14:31 GMT
#643
Without need to explain yourself further. Do you think I am town Seuss?
I had a good night of sleep.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 14:32 GMT
#644
Suess. I consolidated all my scum reads, and the reasons for them in one post. So yeah. Read the thread. In fact the only reason for you to think about SnB would be the post in which I mention him as a possible scum read since litterally no one else has mentioned him. So you know I posted that post. What gives?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 28 2013 14:32 GMT
#645
On October 28 2013 23:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we both know I'm not, oats
But anyway, let's go with your thing. Does that make me scum to you?

yes
No gg, No skill.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 28 2013 14:32 GMT
#646
Yes.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 14:33 GMT
#647
yes+ Show Spoiler +
just following thread sentiment
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 28 2013 14:36 GMT
#648
On October 28 2013 23:32 Promethelax wrote:
Suess. I consolidated all my scum reads, and the reasons for them in one post. So yeah. Read the thread. In fact the only reason for you to think about SnB would be the post in which I mention him as a possible scum read since litterally no one else has mentioned him. So you know I posted that post. What gives?


I mentioned strongandbig previously as well, before you did in fact. He was still on my mind and since people asked for my reads I included it.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#649
On October 28 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
Most of the case on Pandain seems to come down to him playing bad or weird. But I don't know what that means. Someone said to me after I died about Pandain flipped mafia in Hogwarts - "I should have known, he was posting too sensibly". So, yeah.

Well those are your thoughts on the cases on Pandain, what about your thoughts on Pandain?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#650
On October 28 2013 23:32 Seuss wrote:
Yes.

Then do
##Update Koshi
What is holding you back?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 14:40 GMT
#651
Similar, I stated earlier I don't know what to think of him, and that remains the case. The thing I dislike most still is that he thought rayn's original Incinerate was real, when if he had just done any reading of the rules or Crossfire's post about 3 above his, he would realise it was fake. And that's not much to go on.

Like rayn's point about Pandain's confidence, I don't see why that would be a scumtell in any way for Pandain; as referenced earlier, Pandain happily calls himself totally right and confirmed town as mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 28 2013 14:41 GMT
#652
On October 28 2013 23:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 23:32 Seuss wrote:
Yes.

Then do
##Update Koshi
What is holding you back?


As a matter of principle I'm holding off on powering anyone up, despite marv's admonishing me. You also are pretty light on your posts, so while I think you're town now that may change and I don't want to make a snap decision I'll regret later.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 14:42 GMT
#653
Koshi, why is getting powered up your only concern? Have you considered playing the game and not the roles?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 28 2013 14:47 GMT
#654
Seuss your reads are alright, keep it up. I think you'll find if you continue to play with us why your read on Oats is the way it is. Shit just tends not to apply to Oats, though I must say I have actually liked Oats' play this game which is odd for me.

There are a lot of people we have yet to really hear much from and that bothers me.

Alright leaving for now. Before I come back I'm going to try and have a look at Prome in the context of marv's analysis of him because I'd like to put that to bed one way or another and move on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 14:48 GMT
#655
Koshi - same question to you as to Oats, does it make any difference if you're powered up now or at the end of the day?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#656
On October 28 2013 23:42 Promethelax wrote:
Koshi, why is getting powered up your only concern? Have you considered playing the game and not the roles?

It's not my only concern. I don't know yet who I will vote but I think Oats, rayn, marv look quite townie. I am eagerly awaiting Sentinel and WoS doing their action. And meanwhile I am gathering votes.
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
October 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#657
Hey guys
I like promethelax and oatsmaster
Nothing as meta as Marv had (tho I don't disagree) but prome makes sense and his thread presence seems to be working towards a scumhunting-positive environment
Oats has way better SNR than I think he does as scum
Don't want to power up Marv yet and probably not at all today unless we decide to just power everybody, not bc I think he's scum but bc I can't trust a town read on him this early in the game unless he does something unintentionally telling, which he hasn't yet

Best case so far in the thread has been oatsmaster's case on pandaman, so weird.

I'm a belieber
##yolo Promethelax
##Refudiate Oatsmaster
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 14:50 GMT
#658
On October 28 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi - same question to you as to Oats, does it make any difference if you're powered up now or at the end of the day?

Nha, I need x votes at the end of the day to do y. Then I can do y on z where z is a somebody who gave me one of the x. But it's all crap. Remember this because I won't reveal more ever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 28 2013 14:53 GMT
#659
Ok thats a really bad reason to call me scum Seuss.

Oatsmaster: Maybe scum. There's still a lot of "if so-and-so is Y, so-and-so #2 is X" without an explanation of the logic. I don't think it makes sense for him to give marv a pass for not talking about who he doesn't want to talk about, but not give Promethelax a similar pass for not following up where he doesn't want to follow up. He says he's made a strong case but you have to go back through about 30 posts and pick it up in bits and pieces, which is time consuming and not all that convincing. I realize this may just be his posting style and "meta" or whatever, but I find it obfuscates information more than I'd like.

Still a lot of associations? Quote more than the one I said about Koshi/rayn/sent please.

Marv and Prome get different treatment because of different meta's.
No gg, No skill.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 14:53 GMT
#660
On October 28 2013 23:49 strongandbig wrote:
Hey guys
I like promethelax and oatsmaster
Nothing as meta as Marv had (tho I don't disagree) but prome makes sense and his thread presence seems to be working towards a scumhunting-positive environment
Oats has way better SNR than I think he does as scum
Don't want to power up Marv yet and probably not at all today unless we decide to just power everybody, not bc I think he's scum but bc I can't trust a town read on him this early in the game unless he does something unintentionally telling, which he hasn't yet

Best case so far in the thread has been oatsmaster's case on pandaman, so weird.

I'm a belieber
##yolo Promethelax
##Refudiate Oatsmaster


yo bro ##Yolo
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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