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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 21 2010 20:48 GMT
#601
Bah... I was about to reply, bu then realized I already did so above, and DrH clarified he was just raising a possibility, but still thought it likely a candidate was mafia.

More importantly, I need to stop talking. You all know where I stand by now.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 21 2010 21:12 GMT
#602
On January 22 2010 05:43 Ser Aspi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 02:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Has anyone considered the whole possibility that the mafia doesn't even have a candidate?

We've been going on this whole shitstorm assuming someone running for office is red.

The mafia could see that and just think "well wouldn't it really fuck with them if none of us ran? They'll tear each other apart and probably end up lynching their elected candidates"

That's kind what is happening too.


I agree with this. Great thinking DoctorH! We have to be careful about killing ourselves early on

Let's think about t_co's actions from his own perspective. If he is mafia, what does he have to gain from putting himself in the open like that as well as suggesting we lynch the mayor and using an RNG setup to win. Not only does this draw a lot of attention to himself for no reason which I certainly wouldn't want if I was mafia, but it also doesn't seem like a good plan for the mafia however bizarre it is. What does he have to gain from doing this? Try looking at it from that way, it might help a bit

Given that he's probably not mafia, it's far more likely he's a misguided townie and should not be lynched. As a townie he would think that he has a unique plan to offer and has no fear of putting it up for people to see. Just because nobody likes the plan doesn't mean he is a bad guy too.

It seems like a dumb idea to lynch someone who we know is innocent just because he's turning the town against themselves. I spoke with him and he realized that the senseless bickering was doing only the mafia good and said he would stop, which he has. Everyone else should follow his lead then we can all rejoice and gallop to happy land


This post seems somewhat suspicious to me, as I have rarely seen you post in the whole mafia game so far or I have never seen voiced your opinion. I do not see why your argument is viable, as there are times when one can attempt and fail. (Maybe T_co tried to get elected and failed?)
Lynching someone is not only used to kill the mafia, but is also a good way to clarify the roles. From a more statistical point of view, lynching T_co would not really matter even if he was green, since losing one townie will not matter at this point. The plus side is that we can end this drama. In my opinion this drama is clouding our judgement, and ending it will benefit most of us.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 21 2010 21:13 GMT
#603
Hmm... I think i'll just stop talking now and just lurk :D
I do not wish to get lynched in the first few days, so I will remain silent since I don't want to say something that can be misinterpreted.
I have to study for my exams anyways :D
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 21 2010 21:23 GMT
#604
I'm sorry. I didnt have much to offer early on but i didnt want to do nothing either.

If my ideas are no good i will simply have to try other stuff.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 21 2010 21:29 GMT
#605
I'm not saying your ideas are no good!
In this game people are always distrusting each other and almost anything can happen.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 21 2010 22:05 GMT
#606
Wow, I take a nap and there are 5 new pages to read.
Since everybody has making pretty lengthy posts, I think I'll keep mine short.
I really see no harm in lynching t_co. At this point in the game, our chances are higher of striking red than green or blue. I mean, would we really want somebody who causes consternation and divides the town to be a detective or something? Not sure that would work out well.

Furthermore, more clues will mean more definite lynchings, since even our most solid connections on clues could be red herrings as of yet.

So basically I won't be here for most of tonight and tomorrow (debate tournament at Duke University, probably should finish preparing) but I will try to lurk if they have wifi and will catch up on everything tomorrow.

And the game begins soon~
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 21 2010 22:42 GMT
#607
Ok so here's my attempt at trying something new I'm gonna clue analyze myself and see what comes up!

The mafia is characterized as being bold and fast to action. They also kill in creative ways, have a contempt for lawyers, and make use of appliances and the laws of physics.

Now I forgot to put anything in my profile. Oh no All they can write clues for is my name. Ser aspi is the reverse of ispa res, which is a law term used to examine negligence. Ser is also the ancient root of a verb that generally relates to 'being'. In the book Song of Ice and Fire ser is used in place of sir. So if I was referenced it could be to a knight or royalty.

I see no links to nobility so far. The mafia being bold and assertive might be a farfetched link to ser, but it is pretty farfetched . The ancient links to ser might be a problem though. In many of the definitions of ser, some of the common roots are from the Gauls and Catalans, who were most definitely barbarians. And the mafia leader did utter a barbaric cry. I'm getting a little scared here. But that's not the end of it.

Negligence might be applicable for the guards failing to do their jobs, or the town leaders getting assassinated so easily. But the real problem is that Qatol is described as a lawyer and that they were in a discussion about legal ramifications, which could've been caused by their own negligence.

We all know that lawyers are dirty scum. The mafia even calls him that. Now that looks all right because Qatol is the lawyer, not the mafia. But who would know that lawyers are dirty scum other than another lawyer. The mafia who said that might be a lawyer too who is undoubtedly familiar with ispa res and how scummy lawyers are. Also, mafia are sometimes called "scum." Perhaps he was using a phrase that he had been called himself before? I don't know, but it doesn't look very good. The good news is that there are so many small connections but no real huge ones. I doubt I'd be linked on every single one so it might be just red herrings after all. Hard to say.

So overall I'm a little suspicious and conflicted. There's no concrete link, which makes me feel safe, but there's a lot of small ones. Based on these set of clues I can't tell if I am mafia or innocent We shall have to wait and see what day 2 brings!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 23:03 GMT
#608
On January 22 2010 06:13 Abenson wrote:
Hmm... I think i'll just stop talking now and just lurk :D
I do not wish to get lynched in the first few days, so I will remain silent since I don't want to say something that can be misinterpreted.
I have to study for my exams anyways :D


Lurking is more suspicious than posting your ideas, unless you have horrible ideas which I don't think you do. Just be sure to back up what you say...
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
January 21 2010 23:05 GMT
#609
Oops I made a mistake. res ispa, not ipsa res. Sorry!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 23:16 GMT
#610
So... I went through the last 6 pages and roughly tallied the people who either mentioned they would support lynching t_co or explicitly stated it. I also pointed out a few people who haven't said much at all about it.

t_co
Mystlord
Abenson
Flamewheel
Hobbes - presumably
DrH
789
Bill Murray
citi.zen
Jugan
t_co - hey man, he said it
tredmaster
Faronel

someone else/Hobbes?
Ser aspi


Where do you stand?
Ng5... I like your chess but all you've done is wisecrack and not really stated your opinion.
Ace
The_Master
keit - you haven't spoken a word yet...




Let me know if I made a mistake or whatever
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
January 21 2010 23:16 GMT
#611
On January 22 2010 02:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 02:14 meeple wrote:
I dunno whether to advocate Hobbes or t_co... Hobbes fits the clues, but t_co has done nothing productive and just spreading useless misinformation


Well, we can double lynch hobbes and someone else on day 2? I think we should resolve this drama as soon as possible.


Just to let you all know, double lynches need to be voted for before they can be used. In other words, a majority of you (specifically, half the number of voters + 1) need to vote in favor of a double lynch the day before (say, on Day 1). Then, on the next day you can vote for the two people you want to lynch (in this case, on Day 2). When the double lynch is imminent, everyone will have two votes they can distribute on two different people, except the Mayor, who would have three votes per person. The Mayor's three votes will also work when voting for the double lynch in the first place.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 23:24 GMT
#612
I vote for a double lynch on day 2
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 23:25 GMT
#613
do we vote in the mayor thread?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 23:28 GMT
#614
Yup, I think you would vote in the voting thread, but are alot of people for this? We only get 2 a game...
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 23:32 GMT
#615
i was just going along with what i presumed to be the town's plan...
i really am not for it so much.
in lieu of this, i abstain from voting on that for now
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 21 2010 23:32 GMT
#616
On January 22 2010 08:16 meeple wrote:
So... I went through the last 6 pages and roughly tallied the people who either mentioned they would support lynching t_co or explicitly stated it. I also pointed out a few people who haven't said much at all about it.

t_co
Mystlord
Abenson
Flamewheel
Hobbes - presumably
DrH
789
Bill Murray
citi.zen
Jugan
t_co - hey man, he said it
tredmaster
Faronel

someone else/Hobbes?
Ser aspi


Where do you stand?
Ng5... I like your chess but all you've done is wisecrack and not really stated your opinion.
Ace
The_Master
keit - you haven't spoken a word yet...




Let me know if I made a mistake or whatever

Ace isn't playing in this game. (Nor am I). We are just interested in the game.
Uff Da
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
January 21 2010 23:32 GMT
#617
Yes, you vote for double lynches in the voting thread.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 21 2010 23:33 GMT
#618
also, meeple, where do you stand on the mayoral lynch issue?

i suppose we'll get to see in under 2 and 1/2 hours
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 23:34 GMT
#619
On January 22 2010 08:32 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 08:16 meeple wrote:
So... I went through the last 6 pages and roughly tallied the people who either mentioned they would support lynching t_co or explicitly stated it. I also pointed out a few people who haven't said much at all about it.

t_co
Mystlord
Abenson
Flamewheel
Hobbes - presumably
DrH
789
Bill Murray
citi.zen
Jugan
t_co - hey man, he said it
tredmaster
Faronel

someone else/Hobbes?
Ser aspi


Where do you stand?
Ng5... I like your chess but all you've done is wisecrack and not really stated your opinion.
Ace
The_Master
keit - you haven't spoken a word yet...




Let me know if I made a mistake or whatever

Ace isn't playing in this game. (Nor am I). We are just interested in the game.


Ah, sorry, I just saw a name and didn't double check with the list
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 21 2010 23:37 GMT
#620
On January 22 2010 08:33 Bill Murray wrote:
also, meeple, where do you stand on the mayoral lynch issue?

i suppose we'll get to see in under 2 and 1/2 hours


Well... to be honest, I lean towards following clues. However, in this case, the clues are very shaky at best and t_co has made a great case against himself. If I were elected mayor, I would serve the interests of the people, and thus probably lynch t_co, unless some major revelation occurs.
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