As for VortiX, he was a bona fide patchzerg who has not yet managed to secure another big breakout performance.
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
As for VortiX, he was a bona fide patchzerg who has not yet managed to secure another big breakout performance. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
rkshox
Taiwan536 Posts
On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. Everyone has the impression that Koreans joining foreign teams means better practice partners for foreigners, but that's not always the case. Liquid for example, does not have a team house and none of the players have lived together since oGs-TL and EG-TL houses. Of course there was a time when Jinro, HerO, and TLO got a house together in Korea, but can you really count that as a gaming house? Of course we can't really say how much practicing goes on behind the scenes when the pros aren't streaming and tweeting. You never know! | ||
Baadbeat
France203 Posts
But I don't think that acquiring Dear will help the players from mouz nor the foreign scene unless mouz builds a team house in Europe and that Dear comes to practice in Europe on the EU ladder. But that could also cause Dear's level to decrease in the long run… | ||
Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. If that's true then no one practices more than 5 hours a day, and almost everyone practices under 4. edit: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ and sort by wins. It takes around 4-5 hours to play 20 games, and the season started around 40 days ago. Notice that everyone has under 800 games played, and the majority of players have much less than that. The GM average seems to be under 400 games, which is around 10 ladder games a day. So either progamers play lots of customs, or they practice much, much less than 8 hours a day. | ||
fmright
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 20 2013 08:27 Chaggi wrote: Dear's my favorite Protoss player so watching him in foreign tournaments will be great. I hope to see more Jaedong, Innovation and Dear at those tournaments, battling it out. Should be great to watch in 2014 Yup. I watch SC2 like I watch basketball. I watch WCS Korea for the NBA-style best of the best against each other. I watch foreign tournaments for the same reason I watch the US national team, to see one dominant country beat the crap out of hapless foreigners. | ||
JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 20 2013 13:41 Cheren wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. If that's true then no one practices more than 5 hours a day, and almost everyone practices under 4. edit: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ and sort by wins. It takes around 4-5 hours to play 20 games, and the season started around 40 days ago. Notice that everyone has under 800 games played, and the majority of players have much less than that. The GM average seems to be under 400 games, which is around 10 ladder games a day. So either progamers play lots of customs, or they practice much, much less than 8 hours a day. Citation needed | ||
Nightwishone
Italy391 Posts
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On December 20 2013 17:05 JustPassingBy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 13:41 Cheren wrote: On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. If that's true then no one practices more than 5 hours a day, and almost everyone practices under 4. edit: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ and sort by wins. It takes around 4-5 hours to play 20 games, and the season started around 40 days ago. Notice that everyone has under 800 games played, and the majority of players have much less than that. The GM average seems to be under 400 games, which is around 10 ladder games a day. So either progamers play lots of customs, or they practice much, much less than 8 hours a day. Citation needed sc2gears multi-rep analysis shows average game is 12-15 minutes real time. even if people play really long games it would be like a 20 minute real time average, which still puts 800 games a season (which no one in top GM has) at well under 8 hours a day of practice. Thanks for your useless comment, by the way. | ||
Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. what ? i know like as example cj make 95% inhouse training so why you say such bs ? | ||
Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On December 20 2013 08:30 goswser wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 08:27 Chaggi wrote: Dear's my favorite Protoss player so watching him in foreign tournaments will be great. I hope to see more Jaedong, Innovation and Dear at those tournaments, battling it out. Should be great to watch in 2014 Don't worry then, you'll get that in 2014. At EVERY tournament in 2014. RIP foreign sc2. ESF teams stepped their game up when Kespa entered the picture why do you have to roll over and die without putting up a fight? | ||
Grovbolle
Denmark3804 Posts
Results for ![]() ![]() Games: 5.560% (1-17) Matches: 0.000% (0-8) Current Form: L L L L L L L L Recent Matches: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Filters: + Show Spoiler + Opponent Race: all Stats by Aligulac. Link. ![]() | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:39 Grovbolle wrote: + Show Spoiler + The fall of LucifroN Results for ![]() ![]() Games: 5.560% (1-17) Matches: 0.000% (0-8) Current Form: L L L L L L L L Recent Matches: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Filters: + Show Spoiler + Opponent Race: all Stats by Aligulac. Link. ![]() Oooh, that's the greatest free-fall I've seen on Aligulac. Just amazing, it's almost completely vertical, as almost all the games are 0-X losses in an offline environment. | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On December 20 2013 19:03 Talin wrote: Is he still in school? That might explain the decline in form as of late. He had Lasik surgery and I dont think he has really recovered yet. | ||
Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:11 Cheren wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 17:05 JustPassingBy wrote: On December 20 2013 13:41 Cheren wrote: On December 20 2013 07:36 Noocta wrote: On December 20 2013 07:29 DinoMight wrote: I think the more Koreans that join foreign teams, the more foreigners will get to practice with Koreans and improve their skill. Like I've said before, Koreans are not born with StarCraft 2 skills... Good pickup for Mousesports. Also it will be nice to see Dear at more foreign events now. Koreans in foreigner teams = practice for foreigners is a myth. Stop saying that. Both the Koreans and the foreigners do 99% of their practice time on ladder. If that's true then no one practices more than 5 hours a day, and almost everyone practices under 4. edit: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ and sort by wins. It takes around 4-5 hours to play 20 games, and the season started around 40 days ago. Notice that everyone has under 800 games played, and the majority of players have much less than that. The GM average seems to be under 400 games, which is around 10 ladder games a day. So either progamers play lots of customs, or they practice much, much less than 8 hours a day. Citation needed sc2gears multi-rep analysis shows average game is 12-15 minutes real time. even if people play really long games it would be like a 20 minute real time average, which still puts 800 games a season (which no one in top GM has) at well under 8 hours a day of practice. Thanks for your useless comment, by the way. I won't even begin to discuss why a call for a source backing up a claim isn't a useless comment... Talking about Lucifron / Vortix, are there any semi-big big tournaments in Spain apart from what ESL and DH organize from time to time? Liquipedia only lists LVP, but the last tournament in that series concludes over half a year ago. | ||
Grovbolle
Denmark3804 Posts
On December 20 2013 18:44 Kasaraki wrote: Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 18:39 Grovbolle wrote: + Show Spoiler + The fall of LucifroN Results for ![]() ![]() Games: 5.560% (1-17) Matches: 0.000% (0-8) Current Form: L L L L L L L L Recent Matches: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Filters: + Show Spoiler + Opponent Race: all Stats by Aligulac. Link. ![]() Oooh, that's the greatest free-fall I've seen on Aligulac. Just amazing, it's almost completely vertical, as almost all the games are 0-X losses in an offline environment. -391 in one period. That hurt him :D | ||
RayBeans
Germany331 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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