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JaspluR
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia174 Posts
July 09 2010 06:03 GMT
#41
Australian News website:

Starcraft II gamers forced to use real names in Blizzard forums:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/starcraft-ii-gamers-forced-to-use-real-names-in-blizzard-forums/story-e6frfro0-1225889236645
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 09 2010 06:07 GMT
#42
On worldofwarcraft.com forums, Blizzard is apparently perma banning people who talk negatively about the name change thing.

OH GOD SURE IS TYRANNICAL DESPOTIC STATE EH?
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
July 09 2010 06:11 GMT
#43
i would say that terran stalkers got a HUGE BUFF with Blizzard's recent realid patch
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 06:14:18
July 09 2010 06:13 GMT
#44
On July 09 2010 13:03 McCain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 12:45 Baarn wrote:
I'm leaning towards the harvard blog as the real reasoning behind this change. Since S Korea is such a huge part of the Starcraft scene it would be impossible and quite fatal to tellS Koreans that they can no longer take part in using forums.

It'd be hard to explain why Blizzard didn't just apply the real-name change to only the Korean forums.


No the reasoning here to combat trolling and the CM's having to facepalm 80% of their day or more reading trash flame posts back and forth is just a bonus to having to conform to Korean and even Chinese law (you know the big new market Blizzard would like to get more people interested in their product and services they offer.)
There's no S in KT. :P
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
July 09 2010 06:30 GMT
#45
This was going to be a new topic but we've got enough as is.

RealID: The Ladies Weigh In

The RealID issue really affects the World of Warcraft community more than the Starcraft community, since first, everybody worth a damn posts on teamliquid anyway, and second, WoW players are generally far more invested in their accounts and characters than Starcraft players - in particular, little permanent identity exists for a Starcraft player, accounts can be made and thrown away willy-nilly, and none of the RP aspect exists.

Anyway, while surfing the internet to catalog the the chaos raging across the internet, I found the wow_ladies livejournal community (exactly what it sounds like,) which has a lively discussion, mostly devoid of the anonymous one-liner simple rage found in a lot of threads, detailing some of their personal stories and why they oppose RealID, many of which have canceled their accounts on principle.

Real ID and our voices

They also have a broader, more general discussion about why the new change just blows:

RealID MASTER POST #3
But why?
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 07:34:00
July 09 2010 07:02 GMT
#46
http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/world-of-warcraft-fans-rail-against-blizzard-real-names-plan/1404707

Yahoo.com adds their thoughts too lol, this blew up

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/

penny arcade too
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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
July 09 2010 08:11 GMT
#47
Some interesting discussion in the comments of this thread over on Reddit.

I'm not sure how widely this is known, but it seems like Blizzard hates this change as much as we do. Their mouths are sealed, any employee who comments on it (much less criticizes it) is at risk of losing their job. It seems like our suspicions of Activision being fully in control of BNet 2.0 are absolutely undoubtable at this point. "The merger will not affect Blizzard's independence as a developer" my ass. The implications that this has for Starcraft as a community and an esport, and for gaming in general, are horrifying.

It's so sad to see a once great company like Blizzard fall to the monstrous profit machine Activision... If the investors want the names of millions of gamers posted publicly, it will happen. If the marketing execs want to turn Battle.net into a walled-off advertising farm, it will happen. If Bobby Kotick wants all future Activision-Blizzard titles to be subscription based with mandatory for-pay DLC, it will happen.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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btx0
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany184 Posts
July 09 2010 08:20 GMT
#48
Opting out of RealID using parental control:
http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-opt-out-of-realid.html
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 09 2010 08:27 GMT
#49
It's so sad to see a once great company like Blizzard fall to the monstrous profit machine Activision... If the investors want the names of millions of gamers posted publicly, it will happen. If the marketing execs want to turn Battle.net into a walled-off advertising farm, it will happen. If Bobby Kotick wants all future Activision-Blizzard titles to be subscription based with mandatory for-pay DLC, it will happen.


i agree, and thats why i canceled order of my copy of sc2...i know it doesn't mean shit in larger scale of things but there is no way i'm supporting this...good thing is that the battle.net fiasco made space for new good RTS to emerge so i will just keep looking for it
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
July 09 2010 08:37 GMT
#50
Sure you can "pretend to be a kid" and activate parental controls, but that doesnt deal with the issue. The real issue is Blizzard pretending that trolls and harrassment are rampant on their forums and that they need us to use our real names to post there to prevent such things from happening. As the parental controls and easily created fake IDs allow you to still post anonymous, it becomes clear that their whole explanation is actually a lie. The integration of Facebook and this push for real-ID only has one goal: selling our data and sending more spam ads our way. Why not add our battlenet email address to our real name and save the spammers some time?

Seriously there is only one thing that might make Blizzard turn back and that is high profile people / communities issuing a joint statement that they wont support the company if it continues down this path of nonexistent privacy. What would happen to Starcraft 2 if Day[9], Artosis, TL, HD Starcraft, Husky, major tournament sponsors and whoever else is spreading the Starcraft 2 vibe around the world, would actually say "We wont broadcast anything until real-ID is gone" and advise their fans to "not buy the game until your privacy is ensured"?
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-09 08:40:25
July 09 2010 08:40 GMT
#51
Even if Blizzard reverses this decision it's already too late. The damage has been done.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
July 09 2010 08:50 GMT
#52
On July 09 2010 17:37 Rabiator wrote:
Sure you can "pretend to be a kid" and activate parental controls, but that doesnt deal with the issue. The real issue is Blizzard pretending that trolls and harrassment are rampant on their forums and that they need us to use our real names to post there to prevent such things from happening. As the parental controls and easily created fake IDs allow you to still post anonymous, it becomes clear that their whole explanation is actually a lie. The integration of Facebook and this push for real-ID only has one goal: selling our data and sending more spam ads our way. Why not add our battlenet email address to our real name and save the spammers some time?

Seriously there is only one thing that might make Blizzard turn back and that is high profile people / communities issuing a joint statement that they wont support the company if it continues down this path of nonexistent privacy. What would happen to Starcraft 2 if Day[9], Artosis, TL, HD Starcraft, Husky, major tournament sponsors and whoever else is spreading the Starcraft 2 vibe around the world, would actually say "We wont broadcast anything until real-ID is gone" and advise their fans to "not buy the game until your privacy is ensured"?

And there will be still enough people to buy it :> but I do get your point.

The problem is that the RealID is already implented in WoW you can get everyones name due to a bug in the system. Even if you did not activate it.
I personally doubt theyll get rid of that system no matter what you do since its their long term plan to intergrate/convert battle.net in to a social-network-platform :o. This just the beginning what comes next ?.
Na I lost all my trust in Activision-Blizzard. I doubt I will buy the next Blizzard game but Millions will. Since the younger generation does not know better and are spoiled with the Console/DLC/Facebook crap
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
July 09 2010 08:56 GMT
#53
I've given up on updating the thread of links, only reason I'll add new links if it is brings something new.

If the link simply just a general information that explains that Blizzard has made a change about the forum posting policy and nothing more then I won't add it. However if it brings up the changes from a perspective not yet already covered I might add it.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
July 09 2010 08:56 GMT
#54
Man I wish blizzard could just leave activision. I guess thats not possible though right?
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 09 2010 09:01 GMT
#55
Man I wish blizzard could just leave activision. I guess thats not possible though right?

no they can't...what i would love to see though is if most of the developers and game designers left blizzard and started new company and made some new awesome games...but thats not gonna happen for obvious reasons
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 09 2010 09:21 GMT
#56
This is a much bigger issue in WoW than it is in SC2, but I really don't like the direction Blizzard is taking us in...
Don't hate the player, hate the game
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
July 09 2010 09:21 GMT
#57
On July 09 2010 15:11 MindRush wrote:
i would say that terran stalkers got a HUGE BUFF with Blizzard's recent realid patch

I have to admit, I laughed...

I think the Real ID thing is a poor idea, in the sense that people have a lot of personal info about them revealed.

On the Facebook topic, I think it is a very good idea for exposing E-Sports and SC2 as a whole to people who might otherwise not have heard about them.

On a side note: You can simply use a fake name to get around the Real ID thing. And for Facebook, as someone posted before, simply change your privacy settings on Facebook, or as I pointed out, just use an email not associated with Facebook in the first place.

You can stay hidden and anonymous rather easily.
http://www.twitter.com/famsytron/
[MIG]kenny
Profile Joined May 2010
17 Posts
July 09 2010 09:27 GMT
#58
You seem to have forgotten the most important news site:
slashdot.org
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
July 09 2010 09:29 GMT
#59
On July 09 2010 18:27 [MIG]kenny wrote:
You seem to have forgotten the most important news site:
slashdot.org


It's only generic general information it doesn't contribute to anything.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 09 2010 09:43 GMT
#60
On July 09 2010 18:21 fams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2010 15:11 MindRush wrote:
i would say that terran stalkers got a HUGE BUFF with Blizzard's recent realid patch

I have to admit, I laughed...

I think the Real ID thing is a poor idea, in the sense that people have a lot of personal info about them revealed.

On the Facebook topic, I think it is a very good idea for exposing E-Sports and SC2 as a whole to people who might otherwise not have heard about them.

On a side note: You can simply use a fake name to get around the Real ID thing. And for Facebook, as someone posted before, simply change your privacy settings on Facebook, or as I pointed out, just use an email not associated with Facebook in the first place.

You can stay hidden and anonymous rather easily.


Or you could just not use their forums...

Plus I do believe for some things, you need proof of ID that you own the account, as far as customer support goes. Like if your account gets hacked. So I wouldn't recommend that.
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