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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 07 2013 20:09 GMT
#541
On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe
I'ma interested in this.

Had he explained himself (also, he more or less did - + Show Spoiler +
On July 07 2013 09:20 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 07:07 Xatalos wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will roleclaim!

I am The Defender Of The House Of Chezinu!

My objective is to kill all those who oppose the almighty GOD!
Therefore, as said, i will revenge-nuke anyone who is going to oppose the truth. Don't push me!

For mother Russia! For victory! For Chezinu!


##Nuke: Chezinu


Chezinu Rulez! So don't break Chezinu's Rule.

##Nuke: Xatalos

xat fakenuked chez, chez nuked xat back
), would you feel townier on him? Is it the explanation itself that's important, and any explanation would be townier than a no-explanation nuke?

If it's not just giving an explanation, but the actual explanation given, can you give me 1-2 examples of a townie explanation for a nuke and a scummy explanation for a nuke?
Fe fi fo fum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:10 GMT
#542
On July 08 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How do you see me as lynch target FirmTofu? I have zero votes on me.

Also geript is totally town.

FT is a newb. I'd leave him alone for now. It'll be easier to get a really solid read on him later on. He was pretty decent in the recent NMM IIRC
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:11 GMT
#543
I disagree with vayne lynch. I dunno what to think of austin/onegu.

I would add ON/Chez/Maju into the list.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:12 GMT
#544
Also. Chezinu should be given a day or maybe two max. He's pretty decent as town but thrives on chaos (from both alignments); but I think his mindset is a bit more obvious when given time.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:12 GMT
#545
EBWOP: above in response to gerip.

Yeah i think FT is town.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:13 GMT
#546
@Rayn. Let's talk about Chez I guess unless there's someone else you'd like to talk about. I will admit that this game looks suspiciously similar to his scum play in LX but other than the nuke is there anything specific you'd like to lynch him for?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:13 GMT
#547
Also, why don't you like a vayne lynch?
Nirvana.Gabo
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada34 Posts
July 07 2013 20:16 GMT
#548
I like a vayne lynch.
100% in their own words, seriously
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:17 GMT
#549
On July 08 2013 05:16 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
I like a vayne lynch.

Why? What other lynches do you like? Who do you suspect as scum?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:20 GMT
#550
Other than the nuke, no. But i doubt town!Chezinu is dumb enough to nuke a guy who he should read as town atm. Compare that to scum!Chezinu and voilá, we have a winner!

vayne's conspiracy theory about johnny's - my alignment and his thought process screams town to me. It's so incredibly hard to understand he must genuinely believe in that. :D I don't think he would pull that kinda stuff from his ass as scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:21 GMT
#551
EBWOP: It's so incredibly hard to understand that i think he must genuinely believe in that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 07 2013 20:22 GMT
#552
I also think ON is scum, what do you think about him geript?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 07 2013 20:24 GMT
#553
Meapak, if you're still around:

On July 07 2013 10:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:56 austinmcc wrote:
The post-chez stuff is shitting up the thread but doing so in a very obvious and very...wrong way. If he's scum and just trying to get chez nuked, that seems silly AND is going to put a target on his head if chez were town (OMG CHEZ NUKED TOWN, NUKE CHEZ, OMG CHEZ WAS TOWN....NUKE ME?).

Therefore, I don't want to lynch him right now.
Does this make sense, MZ? If he were scum, he's either trying to sac chez for credit or he's trying to get someone to nuke town chez for nuking town xat. (Or both are scum and then rayn wouldn't be doing this probs, because he'd look bad/odd when xat flipped)

What, specifically, are you seeing in terms of him going from defensive --> shitting, and why does it give you a scumread?


Even in your big list post, you drop "lolscum" as your only reasoning.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 07 2013 20:24 GMT
#554
ON doesn't seem like scum to me, he seems like some one that's gonna die tonight. His play reeks of PR power. Bursting with opinions but hes trying to seem like he's useless or something. That or 3rd party.
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 07 2013 20:25 GMT
#555
On July 08 2013 05:08 geript wrote:
Right now, I would be down for the following lynches. I will explain more about why tomorrow after d&d
WaveofShadow -- Something's off with WoS. I absolutely hate his town read on Gumshoe when it came out; it just reeks of scum play. I really hate this post + Show Spoiler +
On July 07 2013 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also hai guise I back.
Did I miss anything important other than what is likely a whole bunch of town players all shitting on each other?
. This just doesn't feel like how WoS operates as town to me. The only post of his that I actually like is his post on Chezinu early on re:LX. I don't really like how he defended Rayn either. Whoops looks pretty obviously like stupid town to me and that's something that I would expect WoS would be able to recognize considering that he and I have played about the same number of games and have roughly the same amount of experience here.
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.

It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

I fully expected WoS to respond to this with a joke, but his list is a bit too random. Ace (solid towny), SnB (lurker), CA (scummy lurker), Whoops (stupid town). It feels very much like a "joke" response scum list I gave to Dandel last game. It's neither a true joke, but it's also not moving the game forward.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.

I really hate this defense. He should at least see the irony in that he hasn't provided any reasons for voting Whoops which is pretty much I did for voting him. His filter is just exceptionally aimless and pandering. There's just not any attempt what I I perceive as typical WoS scum hunting.

Onegu -- Last night/this morning I was really feeling an Onegu lynch. Something's changed when I read it today. I'm going to shift him back to null after rereading NMM XLIII

Vayne -- He's not being arrogant at all which is what I remember from the town games of his that I've read/played/whatever. I don't have much experience with him, but he at least seems to try albeit seemingly badly and there's just no effort whatsoever being put in. His lack of attitude is just really putting me off.

austin -- I just feel like this is exactly how he played the last game PTP and nothing like PYP. Austin as town is much, much better than this. I just really don't feel like feel like he's anything more than null which for him is pretty much a scum tell.

caucasainasian -- He came in bitching about the thread and left. This is like a trademarked Gonzaw scumread. Both of his posts are essentially saying, "Uh I'm worthless right now but I'm here so you know guys stuff."



Hmm. I agree about austinmcc. He felt useless in PTP unlike his town play (which is clearly townish) - and he *was* scum in PTP. I guess you could say that if he isn't townish, he's most likely scum. It's been enough time now IMO for him to start appearing townish, so unless he steps up soon, I feel like he almost has to be scum.

What changed your read on Onegu to null?

Vayne and caucasianasian feel null to me. Hard to say townish or scummy yet.

WoS's play bothers me somewhat, but his play was worse IMO in PTP (and he was town). I'm not willing to lynch him yet, especially since there are better choices. Like Onegu, austinmcc, MajuGarzett, Abenson... Maybe even Dandel Ion for his very different play compared to his town play in PTP. Chezinu maybe, although it might be better to wait on him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:26 GMT
#556
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:27 GMT
#557
On July 08 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think ON is scum, what do you think about him geript?

ON? Onegu or is that someone else?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 07 2013 20:28 GMT
#558
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 07 2013 20:28 GMT
#559
On July 08 2013 05:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think ON is scum, what do you think about him geript?

ON? Onegu or is that someone else?


OriginalName. read his filter. He's scum/third party/PR he definitely aint no VT
I come in for the scraps
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2013 20:29 GMT
#560
OrigName is null-scum for me. I felt he was scummy last night but I reread him again today and I'm less sure. He's mostly blendy which I heavily dislike, but I'd like to see a bit more from him. If he continues to be null then I'd be very happy to lynch him.
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