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On October 02 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:23 iamperfection wrote:no rayn i have explained it time and time again my reasoning. Your are using the result to make the basis that it isnt town motivated and not looking what happened at time because you are scum to make it suit your objective. I was clearly reacting to what happened at the time and reacting quickly. i have another question for you why did you vote ve at the start of the cylce when it looks like from my understanding On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4. when it looks like me and cc were your top reads unless im mistaken you tell me rayn if your scum i wont hold it against you. Because i can't vote for all the people i think are scum. I have only one vote. wtf is this question? In case you have been reading i have had VE as my scumread for a long time. Then he decided to ragequit.
yeah but it makes no sense when you really think me and cc are scum. and mark your words implies you should have been excited to get your thoughts out there. but no you voted ve makes no sense.
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On October 02 2013 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Iamperfection who do you want to lynch and why?
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On October 02 2013 02:24 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
I think its even worse that rayn uses those reasons to say im the best lynch when we have a chance to reduce mafia kp.
Rayn are you still here dear? And fuck you with this. You are defending yourself based on "because you are maybe getting lynched when mafia KP is on the line". That's fucking fishy iamp. If people can't see what's wrong with this i am really sad. Like, as there is mafia KP on the line does that make you town? Weak man... really weak. um yeah because this is a very important list and your are using horrible reasoning to vote me that is super scummy.
And no, my reasoning is not horrible at all. I called you out for it eariler, as you quoted in your last post. I didn't explain it then, but i did call you out for it. I even did it right after someone quoted your horrible post about your horrible townread on Mr.CC based on the actions regarding D2 lynch. I can find it for people if necessary.
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On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:25 iamperfection wrote:On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers
cephiro- i sheep marv On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order
1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu
And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Read this again folks. Risen is scum. fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision? Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato? Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing. because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia.
because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second
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On October 02 2013 02:32 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:On October 02 2013 02:25 iamperfection wrote:On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers
cephiro- i sheep marv On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order
1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu
And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Read this again folks. Risen is scum. fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision? Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato? Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing. because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia. because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second
So you can by default caa everyone scum who were not there at the deadline. Do you realize how fucked up this argument is in itself, and why does it make none sense. I give you a hint. In Europe, the deadline is ~5-8 AM. I'll give you another hint. ~80% of players don't care fuck about the lynch before the last 8 hours of the day.
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kitaman27
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On October 02 2013 02:32 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:On October 02 2013 02:25 iamperfection wrote:On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers
cephiro- i sheep marv On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order
1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu
And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Read this again folks. Risen is scum. fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision? Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato? Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing. because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia. because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second
You came to the conclusion that cephiro cared about the lynch? He essentially placed a default vote on LoneMeow and mentioned that he could get behind a deconduo lynch in passing that would require like a 12 vote swing in the last hour.
On September 26 2013 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Also voting for LoneMeow now, as it doesn't seem any other lynch is going to happen.
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kitaman27
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On October 02 2013 02:35 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 02:32 iamperfection wrote:On October 02 2013 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:On October 02 2013 02:25 iamperfection wrote:On October 02 2013 02:23 kitaman27 wrote:On September 27 2013 10:59 iamperfection wrote:
Scummers
cephiro- i sheep marv On September 27 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:On September 27 2013 11:11 geript wrote:On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order
1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu
And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Read this again folks. Risen is scum. fine and all but marv guarantees ceph is scum. he guarantees it iamp, could you please explain to me the reason that you went from ceph to LoneMeow? The only thing I can see in your flip in policy is that you liked that ceph was around for a couple of posts. What exactly about these posts that ceph made was enough to overturn your decision? Also, you call LoneMeow a bad town. Why is it that you were so unwilling to believe he was bad town with the doctor claim? Why is it that you decided he was a liar before actually looking through his filter for a reference to yamato? Why is it that you've taken a backseat role for all four lynches? This isn't the town iamp I'm used to seeing. because it was sudden and last minute i had to think quickly and my gut said fake claim when i first saw it. I thought he was the leading vote getter at the time i dont know if he actually wa but at the time i thought it. So then i open his filter see no yam anywhere and i determined fake claim. The rest is history But you determined fake claim before you opened his filter according to the time stamps. Also, it seems like you already made up your mind before the doctor claim. You were threatening to vote him after he showed up to vote ceph. What about ceph's posts made you think he could be town when you said "at least ceph is around and posting". If anything, those posts would have made me think that he is more likely mafia. because caring about the lynch is one of the ways i find scum. I have found in the past scum show less intrest and are more apathetic to the lynch cephiro showed up lone hadn't to the last second You came to the conclusion that cephiro cared about the lynch? He essentially placed a default vote on LoneMeow and mentioned that he could get behind a deconduo lynch in passing that would require like a 12 vote swing in the last hour. Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 09:25 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: Also voting for LoneMeow now, as it doesn't seem any other lynch is going to happen.
What about cephiro that he posted makes you think he cared about the lynch, rather than about himself.
Please point to specifics.
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i know its stupid but the fact that he bothered to show up at all and then when i compared him to lone who said he didn't even know when the deadline is.
I cant point out specific posts i l liked i just like that he showed up when lone couldn't be bothered. It looked like to me one cared more than the other.
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I analysed the voting a bit more indepht.
I am a little hesitant to lynch FT to be honest. If he was scum there should be scum on the other wagon Day1, no? Well, I don't see scum there. There are confirmed townies + rayn, sentinel (who both voted cephiro Day2) and Kush/Kitaman. Also, Kita: Mocsta is on the FT wagon. If you think he is scum then FT probably is not. Of course this is not perfect because the lynch was chaotic due to the host mistakes.
Apart from that I understand the urge to vote FT because he wastes his vote everyday and doesn't contribute shit.
Opinions?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On October 02 2013 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I am a little hesitant to lynch FT to be honest. If he was scum there should be scum on the other wagon Day1, no? Well, I don't see scum there. There are confirmed townies + rayn, sentinel (who both voted cephiro Day2) and Kush/Kitaman. Also, Kita: Mocsta is on the FT wagon. If you think he is scum then FT probably is not. Of course this is not perfect because the lynch was chaotic due to the host mistakes.
Apart from that I understand the urge to vote FT because he wastes his vote everyday and doesn't contribute shit.
Opinions?
I can see what you're saying about day one, but I don't necessarily think it means he isn't mafia. Mafia are generally unlikely to go out on a limb for a player that is afk, which FT was during the second half of day one. There is also the possiblity that the mafia likely decided to swing things towards LoneMeow, instead of FT, on day two even though FT could have been an easier lynch from the number of votes on him the previous day.
I'm actually pretty unconvinced with iamp's response. The fact that cephiro showed up to make an obvious vote on LoneMeow doesn't explain why iamp would be so convinced the doctor claim was fake, even though he had a bad town read on him prior. The one main reason to vote iamp over FT is that iamp played a role in the vote swing to save cephiro, while FT avoided it completely.
I'm still willing to consider both. Let me take one last look through iamp's filter.
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Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.
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On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.
You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!
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On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had. You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!
He/both played really really bad. Don't know if scum or not -> coinflip.
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At the moment I think I prefer iamp as the lynch of the FT/iamp/stutters pool.
But I am interested in what he has to say - especially about the people he wants to lynch.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I'm actually pretty happy with lynching iamp first.
He acknowledges the importance of caring about the lynch, yet the only time he has really shown he cares is a five minute period where he is pushing the doctor claim over our only mafia lynch. He came to a conclusion before considering the evidence on that day. Day three he was pretty lazy and showed no interest in pushing things beyond cephiro. He uses the excuse that he is having a difficult time subbing in, but I managed to day the same an entire cycle later. He is clearly caught up based on the list post he made, that looks incredibly wrong, so it's not like that's a valid excuse. Even today he has only defended himself and posted a one-liner on someone he would be open to. For a town player that is as good as iamp, I think this has to be his mafia play.
##Unvote
##Vote iamperfection
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On October 01 2013 17:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum mocsta so tryhard.
##unvote
##vote FirmTofu
Why are you voting me? Most of your posts indicate that Mocsta is a stronger scumread of yours than I am. You've talked more about Mocsta and you've expressed fear that I may flip town. If you were town, I'd expect you to be voting for Mocsta right now.
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On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had. You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!
i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town.
unfortunate but it is what it is.
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On October 02 2013 03:14 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 17:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum mocsta so tryhard.
##unvote
##vote FirmTofu Why are you voting me? Most of your posts indicate that Mocsta is a stronger scumread of yours than I am. You've talked more about Mocsta and you've expressed fear that I may flip town. If you were town, I'd expect you to be voting for Mocsta right now.
Good point. Who do you want to lynch or are you gonna waste your vote again?
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On October 01 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Summary last games FT:
Titanic: Pretty good play by FT. Good filter/good everything. Scum
GoT. 2 page filter with pregame banter. Town.
Persona: FT didn't bother too much. But it was okish. Decent filter. Scum
Desert: Didn't follow it closely but it was really bad right? he had 1 page filter. Town
Seems like more tryhard as scum. 8 pages here.
Remember how I told you rayn voted CR without good reasoning over FT?
Yeah...
This relatively recent post of yours says that my meta is not in line with a scum FT. If you truly believed this, why are you still voting me, Koshi?
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and i actually think rayn is most likely to be mafia i think i caught him with his hand in the cookie jar.
Kita stop being silly and read what i have said about rayn ill be back in a few hours.
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