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On July 28 2013 15:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys, I was busy with my other game, but I'm back now for a bit. I'll answer any questions if you have them. I've going to sleep soon though.
Hey, do you still think exarezee is a good lynch for today? I am leaning town on him right now. If anything I think there are better lynches, such as Vivax or JAT. Also I think my initial read on hzflank was hasty, after re reading his filter I find him being a possible lynch choice as well.
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On July 28 2013 15:39 Paperscraps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 15:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey guys, I was busy with my other game, but I'm back now for a bit. I'll answer any questions if you have them. I've going to sleep soon though. Hey, do you still think exarezee is a good lynch for today? I am leaning town on him right now. If anything I think there are better lynches, such as Vivax or JAT. Also I think my initial read on hzflank was hasty, after re reading his filter I find him being a possible lynch choice as well.
exarezee is a great lynch for today and I don't think we'll get a better one. Even if you aren't convinced by my case, you can always read his responses and see if they look town to you.
If I thought his responses were adequate, I would have backed off immediately. The problem is that his defense is pretty meager. First of all, he didn't answer half of my case. He picked and chose the points he felt he could defend strongly. Secondly, almost his entire defensive is in a dismissive tone where he just goes to each point and says, "That isn't true because I'm town." If he was town he'd be addressing my points directly.
Also, I find it odd that he isn't voting me after I posted such a lengthy case against him. Remember, he found me scummy before the case, so why doesn't he find me more scummy after it? After all, from his point of view, I'm tunneling a townie. If I were town in his position, I think I would fight back with accusations, not just defensive posts.
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Vivax is bothering me a lot. I'll post why in a bit.
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On July 27 2013 09:01 Vivax wrote:
Hi guys, I propose that we lynch the lurkiest guy D1.Obviously if someone looks really scummy then we lynch him first, but if that's not the case then we lynch the guy with the least posts. I think scum really likes to post as few as possible.
I know that's gonna look kinda scummy, but I'm going to bed now. Gn!
This first post is supposed to be a bait according to Vivax(see his second post).
On July 27 2013 17:30 Vivax wrote:
Wtf guys.
Did nobody find my post scummy? Man I suck.
Fuck lurker lynches. Lynch scum.
##vote stutters
This is so off...isn't it? He just said "fuck lurker lynches", but then votes a lurker. What? Either way, this could just be a pressure vote, working as more bait.
Moving on...
On July 28 2013 09:34 Vivax wrote:
I'd say the best nuggets Vayne provided so far were gifs, pics, trolly stuff and a post about his scum meta.
That said, I endorse his lynch for today, and stutters' lynch as second option actually cause I can't tell if he's really busy or scum, but I know Vayne wasn't busy and still posted trash.
I suggest you all realize that D1 has serious potential to end up in a crapshoot, and that RNGing a lynch makes it more likely to hit scum than finding scum according to mafia database statistics.
I'm an adamant supporter of using D1's as vig shots in lack of a better lynch, and I'll admit it: In this spammy, short post and trolly town, I'm kinda still lacking of reliable clues on who could be likely scum, hence I propose we get rid of Vayne for posting shit. Jack Sparrow at least is improving when asked to.
Bolded relevant. He's flip-flopping on his stance on lurkers again. Is Day 1 a crapshoot or not, Vivax? Should we be lynching scum or lurkers, Vivax? Can you please be more clear as to where you stand on this issue?
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On July 28 2013 15:33 Paperscraps wrote:
@Oatsmaster
I would like to hear your read on FT. I am bit cross at the moment. Tofu had no reason to defend me early on. If he were scum, what is the motivation behind doing this. He could actually town read me and scum read exar or being trying to look town by defending me. What are your thoughts?
@Malongo
Good to see you posting. I am curious, do you have any town reads so far?
I think most of the hyperactive players are more likely to be all town (see last post). From those the only guy that looked sort of fluffy was hzflank, though I didnt like the no lurker lynch idea from exarezee.
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On July 28 2013 15:37 FirmTofu wrote:
Malongo is playing oddly different from his town games. Usually he lurks and is completely useless. I'm not sure what changed this time around.
Anyone have any questions for me to answer? I'm gonna try and dive some filters now.
You are playing dumb as always  , but you are actually lying there.
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Meh I still think hzflank is better lynch but I want to test how this turns out when I wake up. Night.
##Unvote
##Vote FirmTofu.
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Malongo are you serious right now?
Koshi, do you have any scumreads at all? Other then saying that JAtownie "looks bad" I don't really see it.
And even this accusation of him looking bad is after Oats posted a giant case on him....
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote:
Let's talk people that look bad atm.
justanothertownie
Horrible first post.
Horrible second post.
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You only give your reasons for suspecting him of being scum after you have a townread on him.
On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie? Give me some time yo. Well, my filter isn't exactly huge.... I would like to repeat my earlier request: On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad? Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all... Oh I missed that question earlier. I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore. I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases. I am actually leaning town on you now.
Other than this, you've posted your "willing to lynch" lists but they have basically been JAtownie and a bunch of lurkers/non-posters.... and vayne who is trolling.
Who do you currently want to lynch?
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and I'm not asking for a list I'm asking for a singular name and some decent reasons
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On July 28 2013 15:33 Paperscraps wrote:
@Oatsmaster
I would like to hear your read on FT. I am bit cross at the moment. Tofu had no reason to defend me early on. If he were scum, what is the motivation behind doing this. He could actually town read me and scum read exar or being trying to look town by defending me. What are your thoughts?
@Malongo
Good to see you posting. I am curious, do you have any town reads so far?
Scum like to defend townies?
I really dont know how defending someone means that the defender is town.
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On July 28 2013 15:35 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:I know right Vayne ^^. So FT. On July 28 2013 04:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm null on JAT right now. He has me as a town read but a lot of his filter looks like he's trying to "fit in". Like he said himself, his filter isn't that big. I think if we get him to start positing more, it'll be easy to determine his alignment.
No, I would not lynch him today Oats. Not unless you make a good case against him. He says that JAT having a town read on him is a town tell. What the fuck. Then he goes on and says the scummy part of his filter. Apparently they cancel each other out. Also, he cares more about his appearance than lynching scum as can be seen by the fact that he asks me to make a case. He would sheep me but only if the case is good. Not that JAT is scum. Totally wrong mindset here. Lynch him. No, I didn't say JAT having a town read on me is a town tell. That's simply untrue. I said he has me as a town read. Now, scum usually have some town as town reads. That is not meaningful in itself, however, when it's coupled with the fact that he has a lot of posts that indicate that his town read on me is somewhat justifiable from a town perspective. If you would like, I'll quote them for you. I'm not going to sheep you if you make a good case. I'll consider voting him if you make a good case. There's a big difference there.
your reading comprehension is horrible.
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ok ft, why do I have to make a good case for you to consider voting for justanothertownie?
Since when does someone reading you as town mean that they are town?
[quoteOn July 28 2013 04:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm null on JAT right now. He has me as a town read but a lot of his filter looks like he's trying to "fit in".
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This is phrased as "JAT is Null, Town for this reason, Scum for this reason."
So of course I think that you think him reading you as town means he is town. No not fucking true.
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On July 28 2013 10:24 Paperscraps wrote:
hzflank leaning town - The more and more I read hz, the more I begin to like him. Not afraid to be abrasive and stand his ground.
Oats leaning town - I am really hoping Oats is town, his reads and post so far have been great. His comprehension of what is going on is probably the best so far.
Oats' read on me was almost the exact opposite of your read on me. You cannot say that you liked the still liked the reasoning for Oats' read on me because he reasoning was mostly not reading my filter properly and a little philosophical differences.
Exactly which Oats reads and posts were great? What do you perceive Oats' 'comprehension of what is going on' to be?
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On July 28 2013 10:24 Paperscraps wrote:
hzflank leaning town - The more and more I read hz, the more I begin to like him. Not afraid to be abrasive and stand his ground.
On July 28 2013 15:39 Paperscraps wrote:
Also I think my initial read on hzflank was hasty, after re reading his filter I find him being a possible lynch choice as well.
Why? What was it about my filter that made you change your mind?
I can certainly see you changing your mind because you realised that you made a mistake when you wrote your list post.
What this looks like to me is: Bad scum is scared to post so he lurks for a long time and then posts a list which is all town reads and no scum reads. Bad scum later realises that there was a mistake in his stupid list so he tries to correct it by changing one of his reads without actually providing proper reasoning.
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On July 28 2013 18:03 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 10:24 Paperscraps wrote:
hzflank leaning town - The more and more I read hz, the more I begin to like him. Not afraid to be abrasive and stand his ground.
Oats leaning town - I am really hoping Oats is town, his reads and post so far have been great. His comprehension of what is going on is probably the best so far.
Oats' read on me was almost the exact opposite of your read on me. You cannot say that you liked the still liked the reasoning for Oats' read on me because he reasoning was mostly not reading my filter properly and a little philosophical differences. Exactly which Oats reads and posts were great? What do you perceive Oats' 'comprehension of what is going on' to be?
Maybe I am missing something, but reading through Oats' filter he doesn't push on you. He doesn't even directly call you scum. I am not sure what you are looking for here. I believe what he has said about you so far is decent. I really don't see how it contradicts my read. Stepping on toes = abrasive. Is your gripe with him calling you defensive?
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Oats said that I was deliberately avoiding stepping on toes. You said that I was being abrasive. Those two things are opposites.
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Also, you did not answer any of my other questions.
On July 28 2013 18:03 hzflank wrote:
Exactly which Oats reads and posts were great? What do you perceive Oats' 'comprehension of what is going on' to be?
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Oh well I misread that. Shouldn't be posting this late at night, haha. I disagree with Oats on that point.
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