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Orangeremi
United States94 Posts
To be completely honest regarding Corazon's slip up (accidentally claiming mafia), I read it completely normally thinking he did anything wrong and didn't notice until Threesr pointed out that he had. I don't know what that says about me, but if he read it right and I read it right, he could possibly be telling the truth. I do agree with you that they're both acting incredibly defensive. | ||
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Orangeremi
United States94 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
If Salensia is voting in 4-5 hours there is actually quite a bit of a rush to do some convincing. His vote, by being unchangeable, is the first 'real' ground to be taken towards a successful first day for town. Everything else seems like posing until last minute. | ||
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Orangeremi
United States94 Posts
Of all players nominated for lynching, FatChunk, Threesr, and cDgCorazon are the ones I'm considering. Otherwise, I have a slight suspicion of Sylencia that is based solely on a hunch and little to no evidence. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Can you tell us anything about the behaviour of any of the players in the current game? I'd also like to hear your reads if you have any. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6595 Posts
On December 20 2012 09:58 Chromatically wrote: Here's where we disagree. I don't see a first time scum player doing as much crazy stuff as threesr has been doing. As scum threesr had no reason to say things like "I'm find with lurking" or to do something like switch his vote three times. Those things attract negative attention to him and don't help push a mafia agenda at all. People say things like "He's causing confusion", but there hasn't really been any confusion caused. I think it's far more likely that he's just a townie who doesn't really know what he's doing. yeah I'm keeping my vote on Corazon and thinking Theesr was just playing a scummy town for those reasons  | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Please leave the attitude at the door. By making things personal you are bringing out people’s emotions, when what we need is reason. When OMGUS votes are cast something is going wrong for town, the fact that you are causal to the OMGUS means your activity is hindering town. Please keep things civil and impersonal, and rather than address only comments made at you, please do your best to develop cases that are not immediate to your survival. If you contribute to town, you will be valued and your chances of getting lynched go down, more so than the knee-jerk slinging of mud has got you by far. Also, with your votes, you are flipping around so much that any case you do make seems like only a distraction until some new and shiny muckup catches your eye. If your vote is just a means of applying pressure (which my town hypothesis of you would indicate), then it’s better for you to stick to a person and pressure the shit out of them, than to switch willy-nilly, as people start to disregard your vote, knowing it will soon change. | ||
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threesr
73 Posts
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
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shz
Germany2687 Posts
Corazon If Mafia: - threesr most likely not scum. - FatChunk unknown, but showing scummy tendencies as he/she did kinda defend Corazon and plans on voting to lynch threesr. If Town: - threesr not off the hook, but still not confirmed either. - FatChunk unknown, but leaning towards town, for the same reason as stated before. FatChunk If Mafia: - Corazone possible mafia, but not confirmed. - threesr most likely not scum. If Town: - Corazone still possible mafia. - threesr still possbile mafia. threesr If Mafia: - Likely town: Mocsta, Corazon (Very likely town), and FatChunk If Town: - Corazone still possible mafia. - FatChunk still possible mafia. I'm starting to think that Corazon is indeed the best vote at the moment. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6595 Posts
I'm still pushing for D1 Lynch on Corazon until anybody can convince me otherwise. | ||
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threesr
73 Posts
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shz
Germany2687 Posts
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shz
Germany2687 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
We should be lynching the player who is most likely to flip scum, not based on any information we might gain. We can look at association stuff after the flip, but we want to focus on lynching scum before. Based solely on who will flip scum, who do you want to lynch and can you move your vote there? | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6595 Posts
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Chromatically I strongly disagree, I think the approach of Shz is great. I disagree with his conclusions, but the approach is immensely valuable, and I will likely be voting in line with this approach. I've said it twice and I'll say it again, this is not a game of certainty, and our first lynch is more likely to come up town. If anyone is having confidence in their reads of over 40% they are either prodigal or misguided. We should not only expect a town lynch, we should prepare for one. All this posturing is setting up for day two when the real game begins. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Any and all of your assertions that head/scum hunting is bad are wrong. It is cool that you have struck out to find your own understanding of the game, but at this point we really need some information, and the only way to get that is scumhunting. There are plenty of resources on this site that will tell you why scumhunting is protown, I shouldn’t need to convince you by way of this thread. You have made several slips that could be construed as scum behaviour. I do discount this evidence entirely as I do not believe Freudian slips to be of much substance. While it is unfortunate for you (and town if you are town) that this has happened, as some people are easily swayed by this type of evidence, I implore you to not let it affect your utility to the town by causing you to go defence mode. Rather, pick your best read, and stick to them like a limpet. Also proof read your posts just to make sure it doesn’t happen again. What I told Threest in regard to OMGUS is equally relevant to you if not more, as (don’t quote me on this) your OMGUS was more explicit. Your vote is not a bargaining chip, it is a tool for pressuring and lynching. Your idea that lynching useless town is better than lynching useful town does hold some merit, but honestly it shouldn’t influence the equation that much. I just finished reading your filter and your posts are all stuck in the past addressing Threesr, please bring some more up to date content to the table. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
Your contribution has been almost entirely limited to the Threesr/Corazon debacle. This is not an untapped vein to begin with, regardless of where your vote lies, please contribute elsewhere. You mentioned being suspicious of FC? | ||
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