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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 02 2011 00:41 GMT
#4701
I'd like to point out I was the first person in this game to accuse vaderseven of being scum.

I've been accusing mafia since before it was the cool thing to do. All of you just wanna be me.

*sunglasses*
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 00:41 GMT
#4702
On November 30 2011 12:05 vaderseven wrote:
Lol zeks.

I think sheriff made 2nd place did he not?


Is that what you are talking about?

I thought and pegged zeks as a newb town that had failed at understanding that miller is a role and not some kind of random status and I was pretty dang sure that the sheriff and mayor were scum.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 02 2011 00:50 GMT
#4703
On December 02 2011 09:41 Serejai wrote:
I'd like to point out I was the first person in this game to accuse vaderseven of being scum.

I've been accusing mafia since before it was the cool thing to do. All of you just wanna be me.

*sunglasses*

you're scum too
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 00:51 GMT
#4704
Your case is my vote timing ok:

I was watching the vote thread and thought the vote count was-

zeks 19
prplhz 16
BC 16
Palmer 15

On November 30 2011 11:58 Risen wrote:
##unvote: zeks
##vote: Bloodyc0bbler


On November 30 2011 11:59 Kenpachi wrote:
##unvote palmar
##vote bloodyc0bbler


On November 30 2011 11:59 Serejai wrote:
##Unvote supersoft
##Vote Palmar


follows pretty quick.

That had the count at

zeks 18
prplhz 16
BC 16
Palmer 17

I was positive of zeks = newb, Palmer = scum that emo quit into lurk, and that BC was bussing Palmer and making a bad case on zeks cuz he was scum and thought there was no real case on zeks.

I was voting for zeks and BC at the time.

In a split second move I decided that with the votes this close and changing so rapidly that I should make sure I had my votes on the two scummiest people so I didn't end up with voters remorse.

There you have it. Can you please point to me the part that confirms my alignment as red to such a degree that no case needs made and noone should talk to me in the thread?

I dont see it.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 00:51 GMT
#4705
On December 02 2011 09:50 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 09:41 Serejai wrote:
I'd like to point out I was the first person in this game to accuse vaderseven of being scum.

I've been accusing mafia since before it was the cool thing to do. All of you just wanna be me.

*sunglasses*

you're scum too


Not that I am defending Serejai because I have zip read on him besides 'doesnt play to win' but I gotta say your cases are rock fucking solid good job.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 00:54 GMT
#4706
EDWOP :

That had the count at

zeks 18
prplhz 16
BC 18
Palmer 15

*posted this edwop in vote thread somehow, ty firefox crash
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2011 01:05 GMT
#4707
Officially ignored:

vaderseven

and also anyone else who was part of that voteswitch.

smd.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 01:09 GMT
#4708
On December 02 2011 09:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 09:38 vaderseven wrote:
Cool story bro post a fucking case cuz last i checked your eyes were anything close to evidence.

This is getting tiring, why the fuck do I have to beg for a case to be put on me.

I feel like I am being set up as the target of choice for scum to pile on and lynch tomorrow cuz I am the one town player that it is ok to vote for without a case to back you up.


because a case is a colossal waste of time when you basically screamed to all of us "hi I'm scum" by voting Palmar+BC 5 seconds before the deadline yesterday.

gtfo


I know from your activity level that you prolly saw my posts since you posted this. Do correct me if I am wrong.

You are acting like Palmer and BC were confirmed town that I last minute voted on. Palmer emo quit as he left the vote count lead saying sorry blah blah and basically set the stage not to have to post again while BC was posting absolutely awful cases and defenses on players that I was looking at closely and refused to acknowledge facts about those players that were beyond relevant.

Tell me again, what part about wanting to lynch two players like that proves anything?

If you can post over 600 times in this thread you can make a case. I am not wasting your time you are just seeing ghosts out of anger at the lose of a town mayor.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
December 02 2011 01:10 GMT
#4709
On December 02 2011 09:51 vaderseven wrote:
I was positive of zeks = newb, Palmer = scum that emo quit into lurk, and that BC was bussing Palmer and making a bad case on zeks cuz he was scum and thought there was no real case on zeks.


Btw, that was exactly my reasoning. Besides there were a similar mass vote switch to elect BC. If he's scum I don't get why the double lynch instead of just sacrificing himself to end the game for good, perhaps he considers it already done and wants to win alive. If he's town I can't imagine how mafia could fail to elect someone between 16 players in concert.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 01:13 GMT
#4710
On December 02 2011 10:10 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 09:51 vaderseven wrote:
I was positive of zeks = newb, Palmer = scum that emo quit into lurk, and that BC was bussing Palmer and making a bad case on zeks cuz he was scum and thought there was no real case on zeks.


Btw, that was exactly my reasoning. Besides there were a similar mass vote switch to elect BC. If he's scum I don't get why the double lynch instead of just sacrificing himself to end the game for good, perhaps he considers it already done and wants to win alive. If he's town I can't imagine how mafia could fail to elect someone between 16 players in concert.


Ya I was pretty sure that, especially in a game of this size, the mayor and sheriff would almost be impossible win as town. There was 16 organized scum players and 64 disorganized town players and the two most powerful roles available. I voted myself as a mild form of protest over such an obviously scum favored mechanic.

vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 01:15 GMT
#4711
Soap I didnt even have a spot on my notes for you yet.

Hi.

You've posted 5 times amoung the uh 200+ pages of 20 posts each this game.

Why don't you introduce yourself and talk about as many of the players as you have thoughts on so we can get to know you.










and stop lurking.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#4712
Everyone add vaderseven to their ignore lists. If you keep replying to him you are merely wasting your breath and cluttering up the thread. If he keeps spamming while no one talks to him he could get shafted with trolling.

As for everything in the last day. Ciry and Kenpachi are the two that completely outed themselves in thread as well as voting and as such should be the first two down.

with zeks and drazerk dead we are lucky to have reduced mafia kp by 1.

Now. With most of the veteran players dead this game there is only a few left

Myself
Tree.hugger
Bumatlarge
Coagulation
sinani201
deconduo
kenpachi
Kurumi

Drazerk was on this list as of last night but he is now dead.

Of these players
Kenpachi has outed himself as red
Kurumi has spent the majority of the game trolling and not contributing
Tree.hugger has posted near nothing of value the entire game (filter him to see im not full of shit)
bumatlarge and deconduo randomly appear throughout the game and to my knowledge have not seriously contributed anything.

sinani201 people have commented on til the cows come home already.
Coagulation I believe is up for a modkill? If not he would make a good lurker vig shot.

Of these players the ones who are posting very little where they should be posting far more are bumatlarge, treehugger and deconduo.

Of these players decon has posted the most and has the most amount of posts to actually analyze whereas tree.hugger and bumatlarge are skirting by with very little activity.


The ones currently who have not stepped up at all to help town after we have near imploded that should be doing so are bum/tree/decon and none of them have stepped up.

As such I believe these three are most likely the "suspect vets" remaining of the list of mafia veteran players. There could be one or two more, but this seems like a good start.

Kenpachi
bumatlarge
tree.hugger
deconduo
coagulation
drazerk
zeks


that is 7 veteran players who are likely of the 16 mafia. They could have 1-2 more.

Of the remaining number we have

Vaderseven
ciryandor

who both fit the bill for mafia based on the last second vote swap. Ciry has come out and admitted in thread as much along with kenpachi.

Based on activity levels outside of this thread lemonwalrus appears to be purposely dodging here and is also most likely red (he should be getting modkilled).

As such that is 10 most likely reds. Not all of them are confirmed but it is as of now the 10 best people to look at. The first seven names I listed will also be their most experienced players and as such the ones that will be guiding the newer mafia members.

Today we should ignore anyone on this list completely in thread in the exceptions of bum/tree/decon as anyone of them could potentially clear themselves with enough work. I believe someone has linked bum to clues so it seems unlikely that he is legit at this point.

I am going to be going over clues from day 1 and 2 to see if anyone matches two days in a row to the theme of music from the deaths of jackal and zephridd. The only profile at the moment that stands out to me for both of these deaths is intrigue but I will be looking more heavily into finding more suspects.

Everyone off the two confirmed mafia, and then cycle through from there.

I will be voting kenpachi and Ciryandor.

Also I apologize for my inactivity for the last 24 hours work + doctors appointment suck =(
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#4713
WBG you are wasting my time now because you are making me 2nd guess my assumption that you are most likely town. I just cant find a fucking reason for a town player to suppress discussion, especially discussion that is intended to uncover the best course of action in a future use of the lynch mechanic.

You are playing retarded town or hilariously opportunistic scum.

I got really angry right now when I thought about the almost impossibly mean chance that you are in fact a scum roleblocker.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
December 02 2011 01:27 GMT
#4714
Hai!

I first voted sandroba for mayor because Palmar pushed him and that would be stupid if he was scum, then I got fed up with the shallow campaigns and voted sinani for the lulz. Then wbg took over the thread with mostly lists and OMGUS (spammer = scum amirite?) but noone else seemed to bother so I grew disinterested in posting, but I've been following closely.

Pleask ask if there's something else I could fill.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#4715
Everyone add vaderseven to their ignore lists. If you keep replying to him you are merely wasting your breath and cluttering up the thread. If he keeps spamming while no one talks to him he could get shafted with trolling.


Stop being an asshole its not helping anything. The tacit threat of shut up or get mod killed is not your business to voice and it is a really poor way to the game that leads to really stupid loses.

I know you are the player type to direct the thread with passive aggressive constant posting and thats cool but your playstyle is counter productive. Rethink this aspect of it right now.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 02 2011 01:29 GMT
#4716
On December 01 2011 08:01 Soap wrote:
Funny thing is I was intent on doing a last minute vote change to Palmar and BC, but my internet went out for the second night in a row like 2 hours before the deadline. Would be a totally different game.

How did the tie between BC and zeks was broken?


Add this guy to the list as well.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 02 2011 01:29 GMT
#4717
err add him back to the list I mean. That post is a scumslip IMO
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 02 2011 01:30 GMT
#4718
On December 02 2011 10:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Everyone add vaderseven to their ignore lists. If you keep replying to him you are merely wasting your breath and cluttering up the thread. If he keeps spamming while no one talks to him he could get shafted with trolling.

As for everything in the last day. Ciry and Kenpachi are the two that completely outed themselves in thread as well as voting and as such should be the first two down.

with zeks and drazerk dead we are lucky to have reduced mafia kp by 1.

Now. With most of the veteran players dead this game there is only a few left

Myself
Tree.hugger
Bumatlarge
Coagulation
sinani201
deconduo
kenpachi
Kurumi

Drazerk was on this list as of last night but he is now dead.

Of these players
Kenpachi has outed himself as red
Kurumi has spent the majority of the game trolling and not contributing
Tree.hugger has posted near nothing of value the entire game (filter him to see im not full of shit)
bumatlarge and deconduo randomly appear throughout the game and to my knowledge have not seriously contributed anything.

sinani201 people have commented on til the cows come home already.
Coagulation I believe is up for a modkill? If not he would make a good lurker vig shot.

Of these players the ones who are posting very little where they should be posting far more are bumatlarge, treehugger and deconduo.

Of these players decon has posted the most and has the most amount of posts to actually analyze whereas tree.hugger and bumatlarge are skirting by with very little activity.


The ones currently who have not stepped up at all to help town after we have near imploded that should be doing so are bum/tree/decon and none of them have stepped up.

As such I believe these three are most likely the "suspect vets" remaining of the list of mafia veteran players. There could be one or two more, but this seems like a good start.

Kenpachi
bumatlarge
tree.hugger
deconduo
coagulation
drazerk
zeks


that is 7 veteran players who are likely of the 16 mafia. They could have 1-2 more.

Of the remaining number we have

Vaderseven
ciryandor

who both fit the bill for mafia based on the last second vote swap. Ciry has come out and admitted in thread as much along with kenpachi.

Based on activity levels outside of this thread lemonwalrus appears to be purposely dodging here and is also most likely red (he should be getting modkilled).

As such that is 10 most likely reds. Not all of them are confirmed but it is as of now the 10 best people to look at. The first seven names I listed will also be their most experienced players and as such the ones that will be guiding the newer mafia members.

Today we should ignore anyone on this list completely in thread in the exceptions of bum/tree/decon as anyone of them could potentially clear themselves with enough work. I believe someone has linked bum to clues so it seems unlikely that he is legit at this point.

I am going to be going over clues from day 1 and 2 to see if anyone matches two days in a row to the theme of music from the deaths of jackal and zephridd. The only profile at the moment that stands out to me for both of these deaths is intrigue but I will be looking more heavily into finding more suspects.

Everyone off the two confirmed mafia, and then cycle through from there.

I will be voting kenpachi and Ciryandor.

Also I apologize for my inactivity for the last 24 hours work + doctors appointment suck =(


bumatlarge is almost certainly scum. He was part of the voteswitch too, but 10 minutes before instead of 10 seconds.

Decon is the one I'm iffy about. iffy as in I give him an 80% chance to bleed red and not green.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#4719
As such I believe these three are most likely the "suspect vets" remaining of the list of mafia veteran players. There could be one or two more, but this seems like a good start.

Kenpachi
bumatlarge
tree.hugger
deconduo
coagulation
drazerk
zeks
i'd add you to this list
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#4720
On December 02 2011 10:28 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
Everyone add vaderseven to their ignore lists. If you keep replying to him you are merely wasting your breath and cluttering up the thread. If he keeps spamming while no one talks to him he could get shafted with trolling.


Stop being an asshole its not helping anything. The tacit threat of shut up or get mod killed is not your business to voice and it is a really poor way to the game that leads to really stupid loses.

I know you are the player type to direct the thread with passive aggressive constant posting and thats cool but your playstyle is counter productive. Rethink this aspect of it right now.


You have been decided to be read based on posting and actions. As such people replying to you only serves to bury potential posts of your scumbuddies. As such not responding to you is the optimal play for town. Rather than constantly defending yourself analyze people and hope someone feels differently to keep you alive. Till that point your posts on constantly justifying yourself poorly just makes you look bad. You had your say in defense and it was deemed bad / scumlike. Also you claim that you were roleblocked and not killed? No one believed you were a vig and as such no medic would ever be saving you. You would have been the easiest shot in the world for them.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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