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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
. wanna make this a 24hr day so this pain stops quicker? :X | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On August 28 2011 09:49 JeeJee wrote: wow not a single person has a brain fine lynch me ##vote jeejee oh boy, we're way past majority only 9 hours into this day! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A7Tin.jpg) | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
JeeJee is seriously regretting that right now I bet. On August 28 2011 06:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm not entirely convinced on JeeJee.for two reasons 1) he could be trolling as town, out of boredom or something 2) if he's been using it as code, who were the recipients? surely theres some more examples, maybe even people replying? point 1) is weakened by his reply after it was spotted At this point, I think wiggles is clean: If I were the mafia, I'd choose someone intelligent, active, and that was trying to get an innocent lynched 1) I can't ever see town being stupid enough to intentionally put a mafia claim breadcrumb in their posts. 2) Code? Nah. He just got arrogant and thought he could get away with it. Of course, this could be set up for Jackal to gain a bunch of town cred. I wouldn't put it past JJ and Jackal. Especially Jackal. His scum play scares me after I watched him as mafia in a game I hosted. It scares me good. ##Vote JeeJee | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 28 2011 10:06 Navillus wrote: Also the writing is weird and looks forced, but... Jackal how on earth did you notice that??? Because the writing was forced and weird. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 28 2011 10:23 chaos13 wrote: lmfao JeeJee is seriously regretting that right now I bet. 1) I can't ever see town being stupid enough to intentionally put a mafia claim breadcrumb in their posts. 2) Code? Nah. He just got arrogant and thought he could get away with it. Of course, this could be set up for Jackal to gain a bunch of town cred. I wouldn't put it past JJ and Jackal. Especially Jackal. His scum play scares me after I watched him as mafia in a game I hosted. It scares me good. ##Vote JeeJee I suck as scum  | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On August 28 2011 10:17 JeeJee wrote: i'll put my closing thoughts after day wraps up, before i'm officially dead. i already have it written up, hence the defeatist tone. there's nothing more for me to say, plus it's 10/12 already . wanna make this a 24hr day so this pain stops quicker? :XGood question... Are we able to turn the other half of the day into an extension and make up for the one we burned if 12/12 vote him? | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On August 28 2011 10:43 Jackal58 wrote:I suck as scum lol | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
Ehhh, more specifics what made you look closely, what did you notice first, how did you see it? | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On August 28 2011 13:57 Curu wrote: can you believe i'm actually getting lynched for this nonsense? blah i'm going to sleep. if i wake up and everyone's still hell-bent on voting me for no reason, i am going to do something terrible | ||
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TheFerryman
United States39 Posts
On August 28 2011 14:11 JeeJee wrote: can you believe i'm actually getting lynched for this nonsense? blah i'm going to sleep. if i wake up and everyone's still hell-bent on voting me for no reason, i am going to do something terrible I suggest you think twice before "doing something terrible", you might regret it in the future. I will just point out you brought this down on yourself. I'm posting this from my phone since power is out, depending on if I get power back or not I'll try to be around tomorrow. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Lets get some discussion going: At this point in time, who do you think is town, and why? I mentioned earlier that On August 28 2011 06:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: At this point, I think wiggles is clean: If I were the mafia, I'd choose someone intelligent, active, and that was trying to get an innocent lynched Palmar was the perfect example of this, and that's a part of why I think wiggles is town. Ferryman and Tnkted both pushed hard for a target to be lynched on day 1, Wiggles and Palmar respectively, harder than I believe a scum would on day 1, so I think they are town. People I want to hear more of: Sevryn, Eiii, Chaos | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Tnkted pushed on Palmar in response to one weird post by him, it didn´t really have any weight behind it. Eiii jumped on it to pressure, but then nothing happened until Wiggles picked up on how Palmar was trying to save Tnkted. It never felt like a serious case, so I don´t consider Tnkted to be Town because of it. Ferryman is a new player, and impressed everyone with long posts of analysis, and reading a lot of other games to get a meta argument going against Wiggles, but it stopped, I haven´t seen much from Ferryman since the TRAP post, apart from him confirming that he still thinks Wiggles should be lynched. Maybe he just doesn´t have the energy to post long posts anymore, but he´s changed his style of play in a short time, and it looks odd. I don´t think either is a better target for a lynch than JeeJee, just pointing out that it´s too early to consider either of them confirmed Townie. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 28 2011 12:37 Navillus wrote: Ehhh, more specifics what made you look closely, what did you notice first, how did you see it? I spent almost 3 hours looking at every post in this game for breadcrumbs. I wasn't looking at anything of Jee Jee's in particular. I saw the U Mad first. And then found the rest. I found one other post that may contain a breadcrumb but I'm not positive it is. At any rate I am not going to share that post, or user, or what he may be claiming. Y'all can go find it yourselves. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 28 2011 12:21 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Good question... Are we able to turn the other half of the day into an extension and make up for the one we burned if 12/12 vote him? Only scum want a short day. Y U scum Cyber? | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Tnkted TheFerryMan Mr.Wiggles Sevryn Jackal58 Cyber_Cheese Eiii Forumite JeeJee -wut? Navilius Chaos13 Chaos13 Mr.Wiggles Not yet Voted Erandorr | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On August 28 2011 20:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well this is a really slow day, I'm sure we could be doing something productive instead of just being content with lynching JeeJee. Lets get some discussion going: At this point in time, who do you think is town, and why? I mentioned earlier that Palmar was the perfect example of this, and that's a part of why I think wiggles is town. Ferryman and Tnkted both pushed hard for a target to be lynched on day 1, Wiggles and Palmar respectively, harder than I believe a scum would on day 1, so I think they are town. People I want to hear more of: Sevryn, Eiii, Chaos You want us all to give you our town reads? What does that accomplish? It just gives scum better targets, because if 7 people think player A is town, and player A isn't on the mafia team, then who do you think they're gonna hit? Probably player A, and then we're short a trustworthy townie. I'll work on looking at JeeJee's posts and seeing if I can find similarities/connections to other players right now. Post what I find in a bit. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On August 25 2011 01:49 JeeJee wrote: NO IT DOESNT. the most optimal play for town is to lynch EA day one. second most optimal is to lynch scum. this screams distancing himself from ferryman / setup for a future scenario. If anyone needs more evidence that JeeJee is scum, here it is. He's discouraging mafia hunting and simultaneously puts on a show of mafia hunting. Since EA is a standalone third party role (doesn't know any other role/alignments, no other role alignments know EA) the only way that Cyber could be distancing himself from Ferryman is if they are mafia together. Just one sentence before he discourages people trying to find mafia, saying that apparently it's better to find the EA. And now a summary of his interactions with players. Quotes are in spoilers so this post is actually readable. Slight attack of sevryn for a pro-EA plan. + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2011 05:28 JeeJee wrote: i dont like this. this is only helpful if psych visits EA first, and we don't know if that happens. i.e. if psych claimed "im gonna visit A" and commits suicide because EA visited him, everyone would think that A is EA, wasting a lynch. plus obviously doc has to lie about his target so it doesn't help to narrow down EA in the case of insane doc kills, and this helps EA since he never visits anyone who claims to visit him (possible 2x insane in one night), plus EA will know that the person who claimed to visit him isn't a psych, narrowing down his search twice as fast. this is an awfully pro-EA plan -.^ Post #1- Attacking Cyber_Cheese for pushing a plan that has already been explained (by JeeJee) to be pro-EA. Pushes pretty hard against this guy but doesn't vote him. Post #2- Quizzing Cyber_Cheese a bit, but not attacking him anymore. Just requesting more information. Points out Errandor's inactive playstyle. Post #3- Pushes Cyber even harder, even to the point of voting for him. No new information came up between his earlier posts and this one. The only difference is that other players were starting to pick up steam on Cyber, voting for him and accusing him. This means it was safe for a mafia to hop on the bandwagon he started. + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2011 01:49 JeeJee wrote: wtf@this post i already pointed out why the plan of everyone claiming a target is extremely pro-EA and pro-scum and doesnt help the town AT ALL. the fact that you're still suggesting it is mindboggling. it's a particularly dangerous plan because it actually sounds good before you think about it. i wanted to go back and see if there's a case to be made against you, but tnkted already pointed out the bandwagon hopping. i wanna add this though which i think is more damning than hopping: NO IT DOESNT. the most optimal play for town is to lynch EA day one. second most optimal is to lynch scum. this screams distancing himself from ferryman / setup for a future scenario. On August 25 2011 06:54 JeeJee wrote: this raises a better question why do you keep bringing up this idea of coordinating a psych decision? *everyone votes for psych to visit A* *psych has committed suicide* "Ah, A must be EA!" *Lynch A* *A is not EA because EA visited psych and not vice versa* Now what? you're here quite often, you make a lot of posts. but all i'm seeing is that you want to kill someone, and you don't care who as long as it's not yourself. i'm seeing useless lists and pushing flawed plans. i'm seeing nonsense. ##vote:cyber cheese He attacks Cyber more in his next post or two, until Cyber reworks his plan. Remember that JeeJee's only explanation for voting Cyber was based on the scumminess of the earlier plans. Note the lack of an unvote here, and that he still tunnels Cyber, asking for more of his thoughts. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2011 06:49 JeeJee wrote: on the caveat that you don't auto-lynch anyone if psych ends up suiciding, then it's workable to try and find out who is the EA. we could use the psych as an EA-cop. i'm in for this. but you've been posting a lot about plans and not a lot about people, so what do you think about sevryn and palmar's unvote? Next bit is not spoilered because these posts really need to be read. This is where things get really interesting. Previous to this he has ignored almost everything else that's going on to focus on Cyber. He completely ignored the Wiggles/Ferryman situation, the chaos/tnkted sitiuation, and Palmar's craziness. Something about this set him off, however. On August 26 2011 08:31 JeeJee wrote: not sure if serious.. all that post shows is sevryn going "I was going to make a case against CC but tnkted did it already" i did pretty much the same thing, am I related now too? Something about Jackal touching on the subject of sevryn/tnkted makes JeeJee feel the need to jump to their defense. sevryn's defense specifically. Note that he said "How is sevryn remotely related to tnkted?", not "How is tnkted related to sevryn?" My questions at this point 1) Why is it a bad thing for sevryn to be related to tnkted? 2) Why does JeeJee feel the need to defend sevryn from Jackal? Question 2 has a simple answer. Question 1 is a little more confusing. JeeJee has had some interactions with sevryn, but nothing telling. The only thing notable about them is that he's very sparing in interacting with people. It was just Cyber until Jackal came in with this, and one post exchanged with sevryn at the very beginning of the game. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2011 09:45 JeeJee wrote: yeah no, this doesn't apply to this variation at all. ea cannot assume that the person we tell the psych to visit isn't the psych. this variation is workable, provided we don't auto-lynch anyone just because psych suicides. On August 26 2011 10:27 JeeJee wrote: who would you like psych to visit? same question @ eii This next one is more interacting with sevryn, and is also the post he claimed mafia in. It's content has been ignored so far because we've all been focused on the crumb. Take a second look at it. On August 27 2011 03:33 JeeJee wrote: indeed, this is an interesting point. making sure that the scenario where ea/psych visit one another is accounted for properly is all we've focused on, but the most likely thing to happen is that neither will visit another. someone's basically not-EA if that happens checking palmar is the best idea i think. under the assumption that psych decides to follow the plan (i dont see why he wouldnt), i'd be hella more comfortable knowing palmar's not the EA. my other suggestion is wiggles. ugh, you read my mind. my god, where did the 'horror' come from. and like everyone's saying it too. damn shit annoys me :< ##visit palmar What stands out to you? Who died last night? Here he throws out some information and suspicions that he hasn't come close to mentioning before. Apparently Palmar is the EA, for reasons he fails to explain, and Wiggles his second option, again with a failure to explain. But if they killed him last night, why would he want the psych to check Palmar? The options I can see are 1) Mafia want to take out the EA so they aren't targeted, and gain town cred. JeeJee/scum team thinks Palmar is EA. 2) Mafia want town to derp and keep EA alive, JeeJee/scum team thinks Palmar is not EA. Maybe someone with a more devious mind can work this one out. Maybe it's just wifom. I've pointed it out and can't quite figure it out. It's after this that Jackal points out the crumb and JeeJee goes into "Oh shit that was stupid" mode. I would like to go back to the two questions I had about sevryn, tnkted, and JeeJee. For reference those were 1) Why is it a bad thing for sevryn to be related to tnkted? 2) Why does JeeJee feel the need to defend sevryn from Jackal? The simple answer to question 2 is - *drumroll* sevryn is JeeJee's scumbuddy. So back to 1) Why is it a bad thing for sevryn to be related to tnkted? Well we have to remember, tnkt was getting a lot of suspicion yesterday, and a lot of votes. It seemed likely that he would be lynched. The only sort of lynch it would be bad to be connected to is a red one. A mafia will never want to be connected to another mafia lynch, except to push it as hard as they can. My guess at mafia team right now. JeeJee sevryn tnkted Of these three, my thoughts have changed since yesterday and I am least sure of tnkted. I also have to examine sevryn's posts more thoroughly, but there is a clear connection between him and JeeJee. | ||
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