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On July 13 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote:
I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now.
@Chromatically Your current scum reads? Superfluous looks really bad, he's been apologetic in his posts (not trying to rock the boat) and has only said what others have already said. It looks like he's trying hard to find anything to post about because he wants to look active. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:05 Superfluous wrote:On July 13 2013 09:55 Umasi wrote:
Superfluous, do you have any current scum reads? At the moment no, as I said I was gone for a couple hours then came back and just skimmed through the thread . I mean to go through it again in more detail once I'm finished defending myself or w/e. Two things are on my mind though. One is that I think you are town (not just to suck up to you b/c you are pressuring me). Reasons being that in my personal experience those who are most aggressive are generally town, and also that this is a semi-noob game so I'm unsure if a mafia would have the confidence to go out and control the game/ put pressure on early on. Another thing is that I dont think I've seen much (if anything) from Cloud 9. He may be in same situation as me and I'll give him Benefit of the doubt though. It's extremely odd that he specifically points out Cloud-9 as opposed to any of the other players who haven't posted. This shows pretty clearly that he's not trying at all to find scum, he doesn't even know who hasn't posted. Also looking at Kirby. Lurkers be lurking.
As I said I just skimmed over after returning. Cloud 9 was a name I didn't see when comparing the posts I saw to the player list, so I pointed it out. And I have been trying to get something to talk about other than what seem to be mini discussions between certain people. I also don't get why you're attacking me saying "I'm not trying to find scum". In my own post I said that I was going to look it over again and get reads, obviously meaning that I hadn't looked that hard for scum yet.
Right now my biggest scum read is HZflank, because I still think Umasi is doing mostly pro town moves yet hz says its scummy. If it pushes to me actually being lynched I think that I'd still feel this way. He also had an early post or two that distracted somewhat from the discussion, which I'm always suspicious of.
I'll give nightcat benefit of the doubt. It's a bit weird he showed up once his name came up but eh. I realize thats not really a great reason but seems like we're in semi-similar situations. Xzavier I'm more suspicious of, he didnt have many posts then in his first one he shows up saying he'll consider lynching me. It's really scummy play to lurk then show up ready to lynch imo.
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My previous post looks confusing.
1) I was mad at messing up posts but not at Rainbow
2) My anger reflected on my posts
3) Later when I realized that my posts were angry sounding I gave them purposes and maintain similar style.
I hope this explains it better. Not sure if this is a relevant topic though.
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On July 13 2013 12:19 StiMaDDict wrote:Show nested quote +Note to all: + Show Spoiler +btw, I'm really trying to stay active. Sometimes I write really slow and I might be answering something that is couple of pages back. Sometimes I write one liners. My bad. + Show Spoiler +If you don't like it, well fuck you This. Pretty much repeating what Xzavier did in the last game, calling everyone retard, was from me being genuinely mad. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 09:34 StiMaDDict wrote:
My bad, guys.
Got pissed for no reason. Spoilers and quotes kept getting messed up. Overall attitude in my posts and impolite words in them were for the purpose I have stated. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. Do note: I'm not a good actor and I am not sure whether there was a clear boundary between me being mad because of quotes and spoilers and pretending to be mad at Rainbow. I was not bothered by Rainbow's pressure to put it simply and it is not in my best interest to lie about this.
To make sure that we're clear, you're claiming that you didn't lie at all about this?
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On July 13 2013 12:23 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:19 StiMaDDict wrote:Note to all: + Show Spoiler +btw, I'm really trying to stay active. Sometimes I write really slow and I might be answering something that is couple of pages back. Sometimes I write one liners. My bad. + Show Spoiler +If you don't like it, well fuck you This. Pretty much repeating what Xzavier did in the last game, calling everyone retard, was from me being genuinely mad. On July 13 2013 09:34 StiMaDDict wrote:
My bad, guys.
Got pissed for no reason. Spoilers and quotes kept getting messed up. Overall attitude in my posts and impolite words in them were for the purpose I have stated. On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. Do note: I'm not a good actor and I am not sure whether there was a clear boundary between me being mad because of quotes and spoilers and pretending to be mad at Rainbow. I was not bothered by Rainbow's pressure to put it simply and it is not in my best interest to lie about this. Aside from everything you just said which I really don't care too much about, you just told us you're not a good actor. What made you think it was reasonable to act then?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=20#382
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On July 13 2013 12:24 StiMaDDict wrote:
My previous post looks confusing.
1) I was mad at messing up posts but not at Rainbow
2) My anger reflected on my posts
3) Later when I realized that my posts were angry sounding I gave them purposes and maintain similar style.
I hope this explains it better. Not sure if this is a relevant topic though.
So you're saying that you just totally made up this part: + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
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Woops misposted. I meant that it was suspicious I was on top of Xzaviers scum list, not that he was ready to lynch me. He said he wouldnt vote for me yet, but to me it read as he would still be okay with lynching me. One is my interpretation, one is what he literally said.
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On July 13 2013 12:30 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:24 StiMaDDict wrote:
My previous post looks confusing.
1) I was mad at messing up posts but not at Rainbow
2) My anger reflected on my posts
3) Later when I realized that my posts were angry sounding I gave them purposes and maintain similar style.
I hope this explains it better. Not sure if this is a relevant topic though. So you're saying that you just totally made up this part: + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
after the fact, and that it's not really why you posted angrily at all?
maintain similar style.
initially, no. eventually, yes.
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On July 13 2013 12:24 Superfluous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote:
I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now.
@Chromatically Your current scum reads? Superfluous looks really bad, he's been apologetic in his posts (not trying to rock the boat) and has only said what others have already said. It looks like he's trying hard to find anything to post about because he wants to look active. On July 13 2013 10:05 Superfluous wrote:On July 13 2013 09:55 Umasi wrote:
Superfluous, do you have any current scum reads? At the moment no, as I said I was gone for a couple hours then came back and just skimmed through the thread . I mean to go through it again in more detail once I'm finished defending myself or w/e. Two things are on my mind though. One is that I think you are town (not just to suck up to you b/c you are pressuring me). Reasons being that in my personal experience those who are most aggressive are generally town, and also that this is a semi-noob game so I'm unsure if a mafia would have the confidence to go out and control the game/ put pressure on early on. Another thing is that I dont think I've seen much (if anything) from Cloud 9. He may be in same situation as me and I'll give him Benefit of the doubt though. It's extremely odd that he specifically points out Cloud-9 as opposed to any of the other players who haven't posted. This shows pretty clearly that he's not trying at all to find scum, he doesn't even know who hasn't posted. Also looking at Kirby. Lurkers be lurking. As I said I just skimmed over after returning. Cloud 9 was a name I didn't see when comparing the posts I saw to the player list, so I pointed it out. And I have been trying to get something to talk about other than what seem to be mini discussions between certain people. I also don't get why you're attacking me saying "I'm not trying to find scum". In my own post I said that I was going to look it over again and get reads, obviously meaning that I hadn't looked that hard for scum yet. Right now my biggest scum read is HZflank, because I still think Umasi is doing mostly pro town moves yet hz says its scummy. If it pushes to me actually being lynched I think that I'd still feel this way. He also had an early post or two that distracted somewhat from the discussion, which I'm always suspicious of. I'll give nightcat benefit of the doubt. It's a bit weird he showed up once his name came up but eh. I realize thats not really a great reason but seems like we're in semi-similar situations. Xzavier I'm more suspicious of, he didnt have many posts then in his first one he shows up saying he'll consider lynching me. It's really scummy play to lurk then show up ready to lynch imo.
Xzaviers entrance was built to contribute, not built to sneak in and make it seem like he was around. Just read it, he actually says things. Him coming in and immediately being on board with a lynch, on the one hand, seems hasty, but I don't think that's the mark of scum, hastiness, that is.
I don't think there's anything special about Cloud 9 as you mentioned him, like other people seem to think.
I am also kinda leery of Hz, but not too much.
I like what you've said, I'll hop on someone else when I feel they're more reasonable. I still prefer you as a lynch though, but that was always subject to change.
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(on board in loose terms, of course)
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sorry that i wasnt around for the very start of the game, and that my first post wasnt saying ##VOTE GOTARD because shitdicks?(NMXLII reference) I mean really. I get lynched for not contributing last game, so im doing my best to cut out the fluff and only post actual contributions and reads...
Seriously, da fuck.
Im doing my best to improve my play and your just calling me out for it. That i find strange.
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Xzav, don't overreact to him being slightly suspicious of you.
I too am slightly suspicious of you.
I'm slightly suspicious of EVERYBODY.
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This Stim thing doesn't make sense at all. Look at the chain of events:
1) Rainbow pressures Stim
2) Stim posts an angry response
3) Stim claims that his anger was due to formatting
4) Stim claims that he wasn't actually angry, and that he acted like it to get a reaction.
3 and 4 are incompatible. Stim is claiming that he was angry from the formatting, and then lied about his reasoning for doing it later. This doesn't make sense from a town perspective.
On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
Town wouldn't say "There were 2 purposes" for their anger if they had just made up those purposes now.
Town most certainly wouldn't say "I wasn't actually angry" if they were, like Stim is claiming he was now.
##Vote: Stim
I'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts.
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Town most certainly wouldn't say "I wasn't actually angry" if they were, like Stim is claiming he was now.
it does feel like he's trying to damage control, but it doesn't sit right with me atm. I'll reread him and see what I think afterward~but that line alone makes me want to sheep you, because I like how it's looking at motivations.
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On July 13 2013 12:49 Chromatically wrote:This Stim thing doesn't make sense at all. Look at the chain of events: 1) Rainbow pressures Stim 2) Stim posts an angry response 3) Stim claims that his anger was due to formatting 4) Stim claims that he wasn't actually angry, and that he acted like it to get a reaction. 3 and 4 are incompatible. Stim is claiming that he was angry from the formatting, and then lied about his reasoning for doing it later. This doesn't make sense from a town perspective. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
Town wouldn't say "There were 2 purposes" for their anger if they had just made up those purposes now. Town most certainly wouldn't say "I wasn't actually angry" if they were, like Stim is claiming he was now. ##Vote: StimIf this is what you came up with, then gg wp. Not really motivating to play anymore really. I'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts.
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On July 13 2013 12:49 Chromatically wrote:This Stim thing doesn't make sense at all. Look at the chain of events: 1) Rainbow pressures Stim 2) Stim posts an angry response 3) Stim claims that his anger was due to formatting 4) Stim claims that he wasn't actually angry, and that he acted like it to get a reaction. 3 and 4 are incompatible. Stim is claiming that he was angry from the formatting, and then lied about his reasoning for doing it later. This doesn't make sense from a town perspective. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
Town wouldn't say "There were 2 purposes" for their anger if they had just made up those purposes now. Town most certainly wouldn't say "I wasn't actually angry" if they were, like Stim is claiming he was now. ##Vote: StimI'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts.
Edit:
If this is what you came up with, then gg wp.
Not really motivating to play anymore really.
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Ya I got nothing to say about the timing of my respond, I was taking the train so I had time to respond, and now I am In the hotel bit thet got a lot of alcohol so if I start posting nonsense, I blame the alcohol.
I will be honest that I don't have a read on super yet, it just feels like he might be busy like me and today is the first day so I will need to find some time to reread everything when I am home.
I however feel that the beginning of the ame is not a time for witch hurt but a time to establish your innocent, because there is only 3 scum and 10 iinnocent, if we are able to find 4 innocent to work together, we shall not be able to lose.
Btw, if there is any grammar or spelling error in my post, I apologize in advance, it's really hard to type o. The phone.
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On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote:
I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now.
@Chromatically Your current scum reads?
Looking at it as stim is scum, it feels like he's trying to buddy him up as he has him read as a threat.
On July 13 2013 10:50 StiMaDDict wrote:
Edit: *It goes without saying that I do not know Chromatically's alignment as of right now
This reads to me as trying to assuage a concern someone would have with it before someone talked about it. And seriously, why would you even bother doing that?
On July 13 2013 12:59 StiMaDDict wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 12:49 Chromatically wrote:This Stim thing doesn't make sense at all. Look at the chain of events: 1) Rainbow pressures Stim 2) Stim posts an angry response 3) Stim claims that his anger was due to formatting 4) Stim claims that he wasn't actually angry, and that he acted like it to get a reaction. 3 and 4 are incompatible. Stim is claiming that he was angry from the formatting, and then lied about his reasoning for doing it later. This doesn't make sense from a town perspective. On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me.
Town wouldn't say "There were 2 purposes" for their anger if they had just made up those purposes now. Town most certainly wouldn't say "I wasn't actually angry" if they were, like Stim is claiming he was now. ##Vote: StimI'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts. Edit: If this is what you came up with, then gg wp. Not really motivating to play anymore really.
It's not motivating to play because you don't have perma town cred?
Expect people to think you're scum, or not guaranteed town.
Like, why is it gg? If I remember you said Chrom was a solid scumhunter.
It's actually up there in this post
Don't omgus out of the fucking game, because that is not pro town, not defensible, and a surefire way to be lynched. And if you're town, that's obviously bad, because you're directly hurting town, wasting our time and not scumhunting.
If you're scum, that's ALSO an awful idea, because you're just saccing yourself.
Basically, rethink this and ignore what chrom has said about you and go contribute as much as you can in a protown way to turn opinions around, not just complain "I don't like people thinking I'm scum"
You are now a priority to figure out over Superfluous, although I still am looking at Superfluous.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE StiMadDDict
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Stim, are you seriously martyring after one vote...?
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He seriously martyred after a single vote.
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Nightcat, the best way to establish innocence is to scum hunt, it's always time to scumhunt.
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