EPT@Chromatically Your current scum reads?
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
@Chromatically Your current scum reads? | ||
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Korea (South)313 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:47 Umasi wrote: (for your information, I'm pretty null on everybody except for Superfluous and Nightcat, who I think are on the scummier side of the meter.) Why Nightcat? | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
(I realize that they're extremely similar, but I think it's a matter of tone) the timing he came in at (right when we brought up lurkers) to be like "I'm trying not to lurk" is just kind of......weird? I think it's out of place and scummy. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:56 Umasi wrote: He came in, emphasized his newness to the game, and it felt like he was giving excuses for not posting, not reasons. (I realize that they're extremely similar, but I think it's a matter of tone) the timing he came in at (right when we brought up lurkers) to be like "I'm trying not to lurk" is just kind of......weird? I think it's out of place and scummy. He said he couldn't be in here at the beginning before the game started, right? No real reason to have suspicion on the lurkers yet, just note that they're lurking. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:49 StiMaDDict wrote: I may be biased but I put Chromatically as the most capable scumhunter. In last game, he pretty much had the whole scum team Day1. It goes without saying that I do not Chromatically's alignment as of right now. @Chromatically Your current scum reads? Superfluous looks really bad, he's been apologetic in his posts (not trying to rock the boat) and has only said what others have already said. It looks like he's trying hard to find anything to post about because he wants to look active. On July 13 2013 10:05 Superfluous wrote: At the moment no, as I said I was gone for a couple hours then came back and just skimmed through the thread . I mean to go through it again in more detail once I'm finished defending myself or w/e. Two things are on my mind though. One is that I think you are town (not just to suck up to you b/c you are pressuring me). Reasons being that in my personal experience those who are most aggressive are generally town, and also that this is a semi-noob game so I'm unsure if a mafia would have the confidence to go out and control the game/ put pressure on early on. Another thing is that I dont think I've seen much (if anything) from Cloud 9. He may be in same situation as me and I'll give him Benefit of the doubt though. It's extremely odd that he specifically points out Cloud-9 as opposed to any of the other players who haven't posted. This shows pretty clearly that he's not trying at all to find scum, he doesn't even know who hasn't posted. Also looking at Kirby. Lurkers be lurking. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:58 jrkirby wrote: He said he couldn't be in here at the beginning before the game started, right? No real reason to have suspicion on the lurkers yet, just note that they're lurking. The difference here, is that he's ...... like hard to articulate. He is lurking, and pops in to post a comment at such a WEIRD time like, immediately when the conversation mentions lurkers compared to otherwise contributing thoughts. I think Super is the best choice atm, but I'm by no means positive. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote: Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read. My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on. I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much. ##unvote: hzflank Why are you suspicious of Rainbows? What do you think about Super? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
On July 13 2013 08:33 Superfluous wrote: While I agree that we should lynch someone if they are super scummy, I'd like to point out that voting for no lynch is an option. Assuming I'm interpreting the rules/setup right, mafia only has 1 kp so there's no immediate motive for lynching such as reducing kp. It may be a stronger play to not lynch and hope that cop(if there is one) gets a turn to check before lynch. It is a risk though because I believe we are not guaranteed to have a cop. Just an idea I wanted to throw out and get your guys' thoughts on. i know usami has touched on this, but i see voting for No-lynch is like sacrificing a townie or playing russian roullet for zero prize money. its just basically saying "i want to start this game a townie down" it seems silly to me, if somebody comes and gives me an ungodly reason for no-lynching ill hear it. but i see it as silly. Also from playing with usami before, hes a super fucking hyper aggressive person who needs like a single post to tunnel somebody for a full day, that can be bad. we need to keep our eyes open and looking at multiple people. As i learned my first game, a tunnel vision day1 can lead to a mislynch, or in this gametype, a no-lynch. Its far better to lynch scum, and thats what we should try to do. Even day1 we lynch either a lurker or our top scumread, if nobody has any strong scumreads, lynching the scummiest lurker is the best townplay day1. (it yields the highest chance of killing scum while creating the best pro-town enviroment) with that im also shocked of how active stim-addict is being. its nice to see a usual lurker picking it up leaving less for the scum to hide behind :D again, even Superfluous is at the top of my scumdar, he isnt high enough to deserve a vote yet. I want to lynch a lurker or superfluous depending on how he reacts to our posts and the events of the day. if the rest of it goes uneventful/no major scumslips i want to fuck up a lurker as i believe that to be the best pro-town action. | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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Chromatically
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
On July 13 2013 11:32 Chromatically wrote: Stim, what do you think of Rainbows? You were very angry that he misinterpreted your post, but you never called him scum. Yes, I never did and I do intend to at this time either. On July 13 2013 09:48 Rainbows wrote: You established that his vote was pressure. Fact You then said his post was joking but he was not a joking player. it is the latter clause i do not understand simply because it has no purpose or town motivation. It seems to passively finger point at something that is potentially scummy in jkirby but not investigate. but i digress. your reaction suffices and we move on. I think this sums up our misunderstanding. Also I believe it was for the purpose of generating a discussion that he pressured me, which in my eyes is for town's benefit. Finally, even though he did eventually moved on, he didn't pull back immediately which would have raised my suspicion. I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. On July 13 2013 09:22 Rainbows wrote: I think sponge is town for not wanting to take town cred. scum would be all over that ahit. This does bother me. Too easy and simple reason to give Sponge a townread. On July 13 2013 10:03 Rainbows wrote: The reason I thought it scummy. It's hard to say how I thought about it, but then again I post rather sporadically with random thoughts. From what I can see, Rainbow doesn't post sporadically with random thoughts. He is calculated to some degree and emotionally stable. He can also keep calm in tight spot. From a previous game, he said he pulled off fake claiming cop as mafia. I don't know why he would post this. On July 13 2013 10:42 Rainbows wrote: I play exactly the same as scum and town imo. Last game was just me being frustrated and correct :p lol. You should fear the Rainbows. If this is true then he is quite dangerous. Last word, I have a null read but he must be watched. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
What do you think about my accusations against the other? Rather, Super, what do you think about Nightcat, and Nightcat, what do you think about Super? | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On July 13 2013 09:34 StiMaDDict wrote: My bad, guys. Got pissed for no reason. Spoilers and quotes kept getting messed up. On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote: I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. So you're saying that you pretended to be angry, and then lied about why you were angry afterwords? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
Note to all: This. Pretty much repeating what Xzavier did in the last game, calling everyone retard, was from me being genuinely mad.+ Show Spoiler + btw, I'm really trying to stay active. Sometimes I write really slow and I might be answering something that is couple of pages back. Sometimes I write one liners. My bad. + Show Spoiler + If you don't like it, well fuck you On July 13 2013 09:34 StiMaDDict wrote: My bad, guys. Got pissed for no reason. Spoilers and quotes kept getting messed up. Overall attitude in my posts and impolite words in them were for the purpose I have stated. On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote: I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. Do note: I'm not a good actor and I am not sure whether there was a clear boundary between me being mad because of quotes and spoilers and pretending to be mad at Rainbow. I was not bothered by Rainbow's pressure to put it simply and it is not in my best interest to lie about this. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:19 StiMaDDict wrote: This. Pretty much repeating what Xzavier did in the last game, calling everyone retard, was from me being genuinely mad. Overall attitude in my posts and impolite words in them were for the purpose I have stated. Do note: I'm not a good actor and I am not sure whether there was a clear boundary between me being mad because of quotes and spoilers and pretending to be mad at Rainbow. I was not bothered by Rainbow's pressure to put it simply and it is not in my best interest to lie about this. Aside from everything you just said which I really don't care too much about, you just told us you're not a good actor. What made you think it was reasonable to act then? | ||
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