EPTTL a little too strict on speech? - Page 20
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Beaudereck
Canada140 Posts
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leomon
Canada169 Posts
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tarpman
Canada718 Posts
Long live TL moderation! Release the Kraken! | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On September 25 2010 14:26 ghrur wrote: Not that I'm against this idea or anything, but why would the poll matter? The mods have already stated it's not a democracy, therefore they wouldn't care either way, lol. I guess it really wouldn't matter, but it might be interesting, and most of the arguments for and against the discipline of TL have already been addressed...is there anything else to talk about in this thread? + Show Spoiler + and if the poll turns out overwhelmingly in favor of TL's strictness (I don't really think it would turn out differently, since ppl would just leave I'd they didn't like it), it would basically end this discussion by pointing out the anarchists (hyperbole, but it mostly fits) are in the minority. | ||
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Gamjadori
Japan131 Posts
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AJ-
United States316 Posts
i'm glad if anything the tl mods are active and i understand erring on the side of caution because they're so tired of people just crying in every thread | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On June 10 2010 18:19 Megalisk wrote: Flash has been a Bonjwa since last year. User was temp banned for this post. He got a 2-week temp ban for what I thought was a legitimately funny and innocent joke. It's too bad he got perma-banned because he was largely a benign poster, but... he definitely got sufficient warning for it. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Ruien
China17 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27146 Posts
On September 25 2010 06:24 cz wrote: There are no shares because total ownership is in one person's hands or is in the hands of two or more people with an informal agreement. The bottom line, however, is that TL can both make money and has sell value. You don't get a check because the owner isn't willing to pay. It's the same thing with any website: pageviews and active membership create value that either is monetized or can be monetized through advertisement, direct sales, or so on. As a result the viewers add value to the site through their simple viewing of it (pageviews are a large factor in advertising rates) and through adding to the community which in turn attracts more. I think your perspective on how valuable your click is is way out there. Everything on the site is free, and if the side effect of you enjoying the content of the site is that we have a number to show an advertiser, that is not a direct contribution by you. It is a side effect of your presence. Even if you want to give a monetary value to your click, it is so out of whack with what you get in return that criticizing people for being thankful is really uncool. Your sense of entitlement is pretty sickening from my perspective. On September 25 2010 11:04 youlijp wrote: I guess the fact that this is a gaming website, the majority of the moderators should be fairly younger than moderators from other forums. So maybe they are less patient or less forgiving as to how people express their ideas. But it's up to us users with accounts from this website to know that they are the authority in here, and therefore we got to follow their rules. Not all of us are young... :p | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
On September 25 2010 02:39 chimthegrim wrote: This thread as an example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=155453 The first response was a guy that said this: So now the question I am raising here is "Is TL a little too strict on what can or can't be said on the forums?" The example I provided is someone who in obvious disagreement and he has expressed that by saying "Idra isn't god." Yet, this is ban worthy? I'm wondering why it is so easy to get temp banned on TL. Well, just a thought. Hopefully I don't get banned for this post. that ban was deserved.. TL could be even more strict.. i like it how it is. | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On September 25 2010 15:46 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: I got banned for saying Nada is Judas for jumping ship to SC2. I thought that ban was very harsh, but in general the moderating here is good and it's helped TL improve as a site. In the old days it was wayyyy less organized. haha reading users characterize the behavior that got them banned is so entertaining! You didn't just call NaDa Judas, you said he was "a bigger Judas than Savior". And you can bet that it was the comparison to Savior, not Judas, that got you the ban. Yet you've left Savior out of your post above... Tough ban but it was only 2 days. Glad you still have faith in the mods. On September 25 2010 15:24 matjlav wrote: The only time I can think of when I thought the mods were too harsh was when on this post: He got a 2-week temp ban for what I thought was a legitimately funny and innocent joke. It's too bad he got perma-banned because he was largely a benign poster, but... he definitely got sufficient warning for it. Well, you've got to check the context. And I'm sure that in Megalisk's case, the ban was for a combination of bad posts. The guy had 5 bans/warnings at the time of that post, and after he served his two weeks he went on to rack up about 10 more warnings and bans (took a while to get permed). A good percent of his posts were in all caps / blatantly offensive, so I'm sure there was plenty of garbage for the mod who 2-weeked him to see when he checked post history. In general bans will scale up as they rack up... posters with terrible histories obviously need some extra incentive to post well; they've earned heavy bans for even minor missteps. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On September 25 2010 15:38 Manifesto7 wrote: I think your perspective on how valuable your click is is way out there. Everything on the site is free, and if the side effect of you enjoying the content of the site is that we have a number to show an advertiser, that is not a direct contribution by you. It is a side effect of your presence. Even if you want to give a monetary value to your click, it is so out of whack with what you get in return that criticizing people for being thankful is really uncool. Your sense of entitlement is pretty sickening from my perspective. Not all of us are young... :p Hear hear. The source of TeamLiquid's greatness has never come from the number of page hits that it gets (3 years ago, there was only a tiny fraction of the current usership), but from the contribution of its members. The page hits are great, they help TL fund such things as the SC2 Opens (perhaps someday a TSL 3?)...but not if they are to come at the price of terrible posts, derailed threads, and an erosion of the great community of everybody contributing. A short time before I was left for Europe, I posted here asking people for advice. Three weeks later, I was crashing at xeofreestyler's house, who i'd never talked to before. As he said "You're TL, so you're family", and it was true. Thats the kind of TL that I want, which is why I fully support the moderators dispensing righteous justice. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On September 25 2010 15:52 JWD wrote: haha reading users characterize the behavior that got them banned is so entertaining! You didn't just call NaDa Judas, you said he was "a bigger Judas than Savior". And you can bet that it was the comparison to Savior, not Judas, that got you the ban. Yet you've left Savior out of your post above... Tough ban but it was only 2 days. Glad you still have faith in the mods. Well, you've got to check the context. And I'm sure that in Megalisk's case, the ban was for a combination of bad posts. The guy had 5 bans/warnings at the time of that post, and after he served his two weeks he went on to rack up about 10 more warnings and bans (took a while to get permed). A good percent of his posts were in all caps / blatantly offensive, so I'm sure there was plenty of garbage for the mod who 2-weeked him to see when he checked post history. In general bans will scale up as they rack up... posters with terrible histories obviously need some extra incentive to post well; they've earned heavy bans for even minor missteps. Lol Nada worse than Savior? Nice "the rest of the story" moment, JWD  | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
On September 25 2010 15:38 Manifesto7 wrote: Not all of us are young... :p Truth.  | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 25 2010 15:38 Manifesto7 wrote: Not all of us are young... :p For those who are unaware, in a few years time, Mani will be moving on to the Senior TL Tour, where the best and brightest of yesteryear moderate a modified version of the regular TL forums. There, the excitement and glory is all the same, but moderators just work with rules tailored to their very unique needs. Carts are also permitted on the Senior TL Tour. Additional warning/ban types include (but are not limited to): "Stop posting so fast." "What's that mean?" "Who sent you here?" "Why don't you PM me like you used to?" "I pointed to their profile and the box took me to this screen. Help." and various image macros from Ebaumsworld. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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