i used to play at pro level a year or so ago,and so has froz,we both know our shit but the difference is that i've played protoss for 4 years and he hasn't.

Froz im not saying it can't work,im just saying its not the only way.
you of all people should know this,how many times has rekrul beat you without dual exping?

and go watch any professional protoss player and see when they take their 2nd expansion,thats what i'm talking about.

BinGBonG[gamei]

Netherlands514 Posts

January 09 2004 05:48 GMT

#24

hmm the european style is 2 nexus when terran expant,but i like the korean way much more its saver and better.
They just go 1 expant and storm drop to damage terran eco,than can u expant our mass units and wait when terran come out brake his pusch.if u broke his pusch u can expo like 3 times

z7-TranCe

Canada3166 Posts

January 09 2004 06:00 GMT

#25

yea,koreans play pvt alot different,i find both styles to be effective in their own ways,but froz doesn't seem to think so :-)

amat

United States1788 Posts

January 09 2004 15:27 GMT

#26

On January 09 2004 01:43 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Im tempted to ask which of you play at pro level and can really tell.

Blaze, you know Frozzor is FroZ, right?

My take is the topic creator could use either Froz's or Trance's advice and do very well. Try each and see which stlye works for you.

Or, quit messing around with a silly race and pick zerg

Roman

United States2595 Posts

January 10 2004 11:57 GMT

#27

The way I see it is that a good 4 fact or even some 3 fact pushers will be able to contain you too easily if you double expo immediately. The only time I really double expo fast is in far pos or to other mains so I can flank easier. The safest choice is definitely waiting until you have at least a dozen goons and 4 zlots in a shuttle before you take your second expo. Obviously many things affect probe production/unit mixes/etc. but I hope you get the idea.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

January 10 2004 22:05 GMT

#28

You don't need to double expand. Single expand + temp to a 2nd expand is fine.

Double exp is easier, though, but be sure you know what your opponent is doing.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

January 10 2004 22:06 GMT

#29

and it also depends on position.

putang

Australia9 Posts

January 11 2004 04:57 GMT

#30

pvt can be 2 extremes, a) really fun b)knowing ur gonna lose but T delays it by massing xD >< then...boom g..g

Roman

United States2595 Posts

January 11 2004 20:30 GMT

#31

lol... na.

Wiget

Poland139 Posts

January 13 2004 04:23 GMT

#32

I played like u said and i lost T_T. What I did wrong

http://www.wgtour.com/match.php?action=dl&datab=broodwar&id=241688&url=upload/ladder/broodwar/9997vs_id.wiget.rep

z7-TranCe

Canada3166 Posts

January 13 2004 08:45 GMT

#33

you were to slow,just need to practice it more thats all,you added gates and tech to slow,once you were contained it was pretty much over.

Cannons are big _no_ before he pushes too,basic rule of thumb is don't make that forge until you broke his push and or are securing a solid advantage.Until you have cannons,you need to use goons.

You need to learn timing if you play with that style also,you have to expand slightly before you know what he's doing,but not so fast that you won't have a shuttle in time to stop a drop.

and your nexus was placed weird,don't do that unless you're planning on not making a shuttle! =]

i'd find a rep for you,but i'm lazy t_t
i'll be messin around on wgtour for a few days,send me a msg on iG.tranCe and i'll show you some reps/help you out a bit :-)

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

January 14 2004 10:49 GMT

#34

On January 10 2004 00:27 amat wrote:

Show nested quote +

I know now;)

surv

Belgium337 Posts

January 14 2004 14:24 GMT

#35

Expand to ur natural keep terran contained make a shutlle. Take island. Use shutlle for 4 zeals. Now u have 3 gas. I mostly make 2 star cars while keeping the terran at bay.