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On November 16 2013 22:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:On November 16 2013 21:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Anyone else around to bounce reads with? I'm feeling a bit of one on one read bouncing but Onegu doesn't seem to be capable of that right now on his phone I am semi here, who do you want to talk about? The idea is to bounce reads off of one another. I ask you about someone, you answer me and ask me about someone. What do you think about BC?
I'll give BC "leaning slightly town". I don't see anything especially scummy in his posts.
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On November 16 2013 22:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 22:24 LoneMeow wrote:On November 16 2013 22:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 16 2013 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:On November 16 2013 21:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Anyone else around to bounce reads with? I'm feeling a bit of one on one read bouncing but Onegu doesn't seem to be capable of that right now on his phone I am semi here, who do you want to talk about? The idea is to bounce reads off of one another. I ask you about someone, you answer me and ask me about someone. What do you think about BC? I'll give BC "leaning slightly town". I don't see anything especially scummy in his posts. So you see something slightly townie in his filter? Could you expand on what gives you that feel? And could you ask me about someone you find interesting? The idea of this little excercise is to get better reads for both of us on eachother and get other perspectives on the people we ask about. Your answer doesn't really help in that regard.
I find his early reads agreeable and his agenda town, pushing players who are definitely not playing pro-town.
I'd like to hear what you think about yamato, seeing as he's the "second option" for mayor right now.
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On November 16 2013 23:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What do you think about Spaghetticus?
Before his VE case I'd have said completely null. I haven't fully analyzed the case yet, but just the fact that he's pushing someone most consider town makes him either quite ballsy scum or town, and I'd be tempted to think the latter is more probable (NB: I'm not aware of his meta).
What do you think of raynpelikoneet?
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Hello, I am back. Rereading, since I have only skimmed what was posted since I last had time to read, but feel free to ask anything in the meanwhile.
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On November 18 2013 07:09 yamato77 wrote: Instead of picking apart night phase posts (which seem to be mostly spam), I'm going to give my list of townish reads and try to work out who is mafia from the remainder:
Vayne - not posting much but he's making more sense to me than I expected
Grack - similar to Vayne, kinda scummy (activity-wise) at times but overall not how I expect him to play as mafia
Spaghetticus - Doesn't trust VE, seems to be reading well, like his posts
BC - We argued but he seems townish coming out of it, like in LXI
Mig - Posts make sense, didn't look at notes but he seems interested in the game
Coag - not posting much but he never does, basically trusting that he wouldn't post at all as mafia
Moc - unusual cases but involved.
Pandain - relatively involved, not playing overly trollish like Thug
Austin - I like his return to the thread and how he pushes people for activity
I have too many question marks, and even these reads aren't that solid. Anyone want to discuss? I'll be around sporadically.
What made you change your mind about Grack?
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BH seems like fine lunch right now.
##Vote: BlazingHand
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On November 18 2013 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't help but notice that two of the three scumshots were people critical of VE (Yamato, Spaghetticus). StorrZerg doesn't count since it was the only shot Mocsta could make if he wanted to claim, and even he wasn't positive about VE. I'm not sure if it's a set up or if we should be looking into our mayor with a lot more scrutiny than before.
I could perhaps buy yamato and Spaghetticus being shot because they looked extremely towny, but why was Sharrant shot?
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Onegu, can you give me your thoughts on raypelikoneet, Oatsmaster and Pandain? Just a couple of sentences on each is fine. In return, you can choose any 3 players for me to comment on.
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On November 19 2013 00:02 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 21:26 LoneMeow wrote: Onegu, can you give me your thoughts on raypelikoneet, Oatsmaster and Pandain? Just a couple of sentences on each is fine. In return, you can choose any 3 players for me to comment on. Rayn is heavy heavy town to me, I was able to spot him as scum in witchcraft early. This game is really different his tunnels have meaning and conviction that they lacked in WC mafia. Oats I am null on I still havent got to his filter yet as I have been lazy today. My notes on pandain I have him as town and dont really see why people are calling him really scummy, but I also have never really played with him either. Give me reads on HF, VA, VE
I had a strong town read on VisceraEyes during D1 but the flips make him look far worse, so he's null, maybe leaning slightly on scum now.
VayneAuthority was completely off my radar earlier, but his pressure on me after the Mocsta flip makes him look town to me now.
HolyFlare I just can't read. If I had to guess right now, I'd go with him being town and the argument between him and raynpelikoneet being town-on-town.
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On November 19 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote: What BC? Can you guess what reasons the people have for not outing masons? Why is outing masons good for scum and bad for town?
Yeah this is looking worse and worse for BC.
Basically BC should be calling thrawn, Pandain and Lonemeow scum because they have outed masons in thread for no reason.
Who have I outed? yamato outed me.
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Alakaslam, exactly what is it that makes BH look town to you? I take it you think raynpelikoneet is scum because he's trying to get BH lynched, right?
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On November 19 2013 03:26 VayneAuthority wrote: Slightly town: Koshi, Coag, Pandain, Supersoft
Why is Coagulation even slightly town when he's done pretty much nothing at all the entire game?
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Alakaslam, so what do you think of the others who are voting to lynch BlazingHand? Do you think there's more scum on the wagon? Who might they be?
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Pandain, you wanted Mig lynched earlier, has your read on him changed and if so, what made that happen?
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On November 19 2013 15:11 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 15:07 LoneMeow wrote: Pandain, you wanted Mig lynched earlier, has your read on him changed and if so, what made that happen? I think Mig is extremely solidly town. His notes page he linked previously is online and still visible to actually see in fact. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag5xQ7DQZXySdGlfcWVTaE5qbUJ3Wm91TUFGSFJsS0E&usp=sharingThe fact he is updating these without flaunting his notes or mentioning them leads me to believe they're honest notes. Furthermore, Mig doesn't pull these kinds of meta tricks nor would he have time to(in my opinion playing with him in Whiteflag). He has constantly updated them, changed reads, and the reasons are valid enough.
Is there anything besides the spreadsheet you could point out that makes him look like town to you?
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On November 19 2013 15:32 Pandain wrote: What do you think about the accusations against you?
The Hogwards/Noir meta comparison is pretty worthless, it assumes that I wouldn't try to improve my town play after the disaster that was Noir.
I agree that Mocsta's interaction with me looks weird.
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Risen, could you explain why you want to lynch Pandain? What makes you think he's scum?
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On November 19 2013 17:05 Alakaslam wrote:I mean my vote is on Raynepelikoneet and FoS on lonemeow and Kush because when I started to actually dig into Raynepelikoneet they both came out of the woodwork
Why aren't you pursuing your FoS targets?
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On November 19 2013 17:19 Koshi wrote: LoneMeow, could you tell me your top 3 scumreads of the active posters and your biggest scumread under the lurkers?
Not sure what you'll count as active, but:
BlazingHand Pandain HolyFlare
And of the lurkers, Mattchew.
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On November 19 2013 17:23 Koshi wrote: Also how are you standing on VE atm?
Leaning slightly scum on him. Can't blame him too much for the mislynch since I was okay with his choices pre-deadline myself, but his lack of doing anything useful during D2 combined with the reads of flipped town players make him look suspicious now.
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