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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:09 Kurumi wrote: Oh,also I am voting on Irish Punk. Funny how he and chaos have 13 in the end of their nicknames. So you vote for people because there's some type of coincidence? Don't make this like SC2 Mafia, please. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:16 Kurumi wrote: I just note that his behaviour is different from Irish_Punk's and it looks pro-town,because of trying to make party going Your posting structure here and in general is clearly very different from your general posting structure: Kurumi Poland. May 02 2011 21:16. Posts 415 PM Profile Blog Quote # On May 02 2011 21:11 Gheed wrote: This post has a lot of truth in it. The standards dropped A LOT nowadays. The things that were free aren't and they're not that cheap. Companies go for quantity,not quality. The games that are coming out are a big disappointment for me,starting with Spore,ending with games such as COD series.. On April 22 2011 19:14 Kurumi wrote: 2Gate early pressure was a great build and You could expand safely behind this,though Blizzard saw that almost every top Protoss opened 2gate expand,lost nothing,most of the times denied FE of Zerg and made him not drone enough. I guess they won't bring back 2gate like it was. On April 10 2011 06:49 Kurumi wrote: Versus 15 hatch You might do Nexus First/1gate FE to make it even,if You can't succeed with pressuring Zerg. 2Gate Pressure like from Beta might work,remember the continous Zealot production,You can store chronoboost after 2 Nexus ones (it's basically 12 and 14 gateway)You'll probably make him get around ten lings and at least one spine crawler,while You can transition into 4gate,FE or whatever You feel like. On March 31 2011 23:35 Kurumi wrote: Zergs are the reactionary race,that's because they were designed like that. Zerg units counter something hard or die horribly. (Try using banelings vs high hp armored units or mutas versus phoenix). It's not like we can sprinkle a unit into EVERY composition and it'll work fine. (Like Marines or Stalkers/Sentry) Many early timings are not being used by Zerg because they can't break the wall-off without doing some sort of all-in. That's why they try to stall the early game and then in mid show some teeth. P and T have entire early game to dictate the course of the game. Why are you trying to misrepresent your competence after making a scummy post? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
I did not vote because of coincidence,I just saw it. When I stared my third post I knew that it will go wrong and I will be accused of scum. Bringing more chaos into Day 1 than there was wasn't my intention. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:22 Kurumi wrote: I just find his activeness into lurking suspicious. Why would You stop contributing when You have nothing to fear of? People sleep, work, go to school, etc. If we all lived in your basement it would be pretty crowded no? If they aren't back on line this afternoon/evening I'll start looking at it as lurking. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:27 sinani206 wrote: So you vote for people because there's some type of coincidence? Don't make this like SC2 Mafia, please. Echoing statements already made by jackal and chaoser. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:33 sandroba wrote: Chaoser, can you give your opinion on the post I just quoted? Why are you in such a rush? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Assessment: I don't think it's more scummy than you, Kurumi or Irish/chao13 at this point. Just because he shot ideas down doesn't mean he's scummy, that's him expressing his opinion. At the same time, clearly what he stated isn't common sense/obvious since people followed along and focused on previous game experiences. You can't just look at one post and say OMG YOU'RE SCUM! It's behavior over time that tips you off on it. Like I said before, if you feel he is scummy, write it down on a notepad or excel sheet (which is an action I know MOST people DON'T DO!) and compare it to future statements. At this time and period though I think Kurumi is infinitely more scummy. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
I wasn't too cautious,right,but even insane thought can turn out to be true. I have no idea how to reply. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
Yes taking into account experience does help to a certain degree. There are plenty of scumtells that look very similar to noobtells. Why would it hurt to have a reference in place, especially since not much other discussion is happening? If you need another explanation, I also didn't like the way the RVS was going so I went to RQS and both have generated decent discussion and activity. I didn't take a look at the last game but if you guys lynched Kavdragon solely because he was trying to be helpful then... yeah. You can disagree with strategies and call people out for them but try not to discourage helping attitudes. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 04 2011 21:37 redtooth wrote: @orgolove - The first vote was a joke between me and HeavonEarth (who I know very well from LoL days) where I wasn't in the game at all and just decided to poke at him anyways. On October 24 2010 18:01 redtooth wrote: ##vote Kitaman27 I assure everyone, there was no inside joke taking place when this vote was cast. The fact that you were smurfing in a previous game doesn't bother me, but what interests me is why would you lie about it. | ||
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
Kurumi Kurumi analysis (he/him refers to Kurumi – all other players are listed by name) + Show Spoiler + I thought I will have any heavy read by the time I am back and game starts but.. the only thing I saw was CHAOS. Saying that,while someone says this,posting some rules being in the other thread,just doing a contribution without any value His first post in the thread which deliberately makes it seems more chaotic that it really is. Frankly, apart from some sporadic arguments about guide posts and really weak accusations, nothing has happened in this thread till now. This post tries to blow things out of proportion and tries to make town more panicky and fearful. + Show Spoiler + Your attacks on Chaoser and redtooth are not supported by any evidence than nitpicking,yes they are posting without much value,but we are just starting off. Drop Chaoser discussion as scum. He will be probably shot this night because he is good at Mafia and is staying really pro-town. It is good to see some lurkers waking up! This seems out of place as it lacks any substance at all. He tries to brown-nose chaoser by strongly supporting chaoser as pro-town without giving any valid reasons of why chaoser cannot be scum. This seems scummy to me since a mafia will know chaoser’s alignment and can use this kind of post to either (a) help chaoser’s town creds if chaoser is mafia or (b) try to get in good books of chaoser as chaoser seems to be a strong pro-town force at the moment. Unless I see strong justification from him about this assertion, this seems a major scum tell to me + Show Spoiler + Chaoser,You wouldn't make any effort to defend Yourself if they were onto something,note that Irish backed off into the shadows,while You try to do something. You have two different approaches to play. Sandroba tries to play the Town Hero,he "has" the sense! Chaos13 does not know what is going on anymore. Again, a lot of different statements which do not have any kind of evidence supporting it. I do not see any signs of sandroba playing town hero or chaos13 being clueless. I want to hear his thoughts on why this is the case. Also, he tries to go back on his analysis on chaoser since he was questioned about it between his last few posts. + Show Spoiler + Oh,also I am voting on Irish Punk. Funny how he and chaos have 13 in the end of their nicknames. By same argument, why not vote for chaoser since chaos13 and chaoser have chaos in their name. A rather weak post trying to piggy bank on the early day accusations on Irish. It seems like a diversionary tactic. + Show Spoiler + I just note that his behaviour is different from Irish_Punk's and it looks pro-town,because of trying to make party going It is really hard to make out who he is referring to but it either refers to chaos13 or chaoser from my understanding in which case again they is lack of consistency in the posting. + Show Spoiler + I just find his activeness into lurking suspicious. Why would You stop contributing when You have nothing to fear of? Not much to analyze in this post. (assuming it refers to chaos13) + Show Spoiler + Chaoser,did You really grab my crappy contribution posts from SC2 to Mafia forums? I did not vote because of coincidence,I just saw it. When I stared my third post I knew that it will go wrong and I will be accused of scum. Bringing more chaos into Day 1 than there was wasn't my intention. + Show Spoiler + Thanks Chaoser,I think I did not see that tip in Newbie thread. I wasn't too cautious,right,but even insane thought can turn out to be true. I have no idea how to reply. The entire series of posts seem to show inconsistency and lack of rationale behind the arguments. On top, a lot of the posts are vague as to who they refer to and seem to be directed towards creating confusion in the thread. I expect Kurumi to be more specific in his future posts and provide explanation to why he went from arguing chaoser being pro-town to raising a FoS and then back to chaoser being pro-town (assuming I understood it correctly which again is an issue with his style of posting). On this note, it would be helpful for the town if people are more specific in their posts rather than being vague as vague statements (which can be misunderstood or misinterpreted) will create confusion and mistrust among the town-folk. Kurumi's series of post, at the very least, is an example of that. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Thanks for pointing out that I am fearful of using names,thus making my posts inconsistent,weird and often misunderstood. Which posts should I "repair" - that meaning making it totally straight and understandable? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Are you claiming you are doing it on purpose? | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
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Eternalmisfit
United States643 Posts
On May 05 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote: No,I am just saying that using names all over again is unnatural for me. + Show Spoiler + I just note that his behaviour is different from Irish_Punk's and it looks pro-town,because of trying to make party going It is quite unclear to me who you referring to out here. And there are a couple of places where I can infer who you might be referring to but still comes off a bit vague. But if you read my analysis, the inconsistency did not stem from not using names but due to lack of any analysis of why you thought someone was town/mafia and also due to switching the affiliation of chaoser twice in a series of three posts. Also, the scum vibe comes from a strong assertion of chaoser being pro-town which is not evident apart from the fact that he and redtooth posted some guidelines for them. Since chaoser is a vet compared to the people out here, posting a town guide and acting pro-town might as well as a good tactic as scum to appear as town. In any case, I do not have any specific read on chaoser though. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
3 My point is,Mafia itself would rather not start the discussion(unless it was questions helping them 2 out,like "How do You deal with Mafia claims" "What usually gives out Your identity" etc) 2 The thing that Chaoser and redtooth posted was just a mini-guide how not to fail horribly at Mafia. 13 Still it could be a smoke bomb. | ||
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